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Reply #30 posted 12/12/10 8:09pm

MickyDolenz

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

musicjunky318 said:

I have a question. Why do does the fame look at the Jackson 5/Jacksons as the same group when it's not?

Actually they don't hence why Randy is the only brother not inducted.

They are the same group to me, just +/- one member.

Yeah it's no different than Van Halen with David Lee Roth or Sammy Hagar, but I don't think Gary Cherone counts though. lol The only reason they changed their name to The Jacksons was because Berry Gordy sued the group and said Motown owned the name "Jackson 5".

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Reply #31 posted 12/12/10 11:07pm

novabrkr

Just let Alice in before he is too old to perform "No more Mr. Nice Guy" in any convincing manner during the ceremony.

It's a bit of a problematic situation though, because "Alice Cooper" was originally just the name of the band, but he later changed his name to it. Many would argue the best records under that name were done by the band and not the "solo" Alice.

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Reply #32 posted 12/13/10 5:02am

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^^Apparantly the whole band is nominated. And even if not... Alice is the constant... he made great albums and songs throughout his carreer!

And "No more Mr. Nice Guy" is still convincing... and that won't change anytime soon!

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Reply #33 posted 12/13/10 5:48am

novabrkr

PatrickS77 said:

^^Apparantly the whole band is nominated. And even if not... Alice is the constant... he made great albums and songs throughout his carreer!

And "No more Mr. Nice Guy" is still convincing... and that won't change anytime soon!

Even throughout the 80s and the 90s? lol

I've been listening his latest one quite a lot, it's pretty good actually.

The scariest aspect about Alice Cooper is how good his natural singing voice is still to this day. He sounds almost Beatles-esque when doing harmonies:

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Reply #34 posted 12/13/10 10:32am

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^^Yes! Trash ('89), Hey Stoopid ('91) and The last temptation ('94) are all solid albums! Also Raise your fist and yell ('87) is not too bad... even though it's a pretty much straight forward 80's metal/hard rock album and not really in the same vain as his stuff in the early seventies. And as I've come to realize lately, even DADA ('82) is a pretty cool album... diverse and totally different from what would follow beginning with Constrictor in '86.

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Reply #35 posted 12/15/10 6:42am

SoulAlive

looks like that leaked list is correct confused
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Reply #36 posted 12/15/10 10:01am

Timmy84

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looks like that leaked list is correct confused

I already thought it was since Darlene and Alice confirmed their inductions.

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Reply #37 posted 12/15/10 10:18am

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What style of music does Alice Cooper do? I just realized I know of him and have seen him on TV a lot but have never actually heard his music. lol

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Reply #38 posted 12/15/10 10:21am

Timmy84

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What style of music does Alice Cooper do? I just realized I know of him and have seen him on TV a lot but have never actually heard his music. lol

Glam rock, heavy metal and shock rock.

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Reply #39 posted 12/15/10 10:34am

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Timmy84 said:

2011's list of Rock Hall inductees will be as followed:

  • Alice Cooper
  • Neil Diamond
  • Dr. John
  • Darlene Love
  • Tom Waits

According to someone in the know, they got it from Hits Daily Double but it's questionable but if so I don't have no problem with the list even though I have grown a disdain for the Hall of Fame's committee.

To this day can't understand why Steve Miller Band is not in the hall???? Go figure!

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Reply #40 posted 12/15/10 10:45am

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Timmy84 said:

sosgemini said:

What style of music does Alice Cooper do? I just realized I know of him and have seen him on TV a lot but have never actually heard his music. lol

Glam rock, heavy metal and shock rock.

and pop, country, garage rock and whatever... he's very diverse. But mainly a rock act!

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Reply #41 posted 12/15/10 10:47am

Timmy84

PatrickS77 said:

Timmy84 said:

Glam rock, heavy metal and shock rock.

and pop, country, garage rock and whatever... he's very diverse. But mainly a rock act!

I forgot he did garage rock too.

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Reply #42 posted 12/15/10 11:02am

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Yeah, they pretty much started out as garage rock!

Awesome, the original band is going to play at the awards ceremony:

Rock Hall of Fame to Induct Alice Cooper, Neil Diamond, Tom Waits

It's official -- Alice Cooper, Neil Diamond, Dr. John, Darlene Love and Tom Waits will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame next year. The class of 2011 will be formally feted on Mar. 14 at New York's Waldorf Astoria Hotel.

All but Waits were first-time nominees to the Hall. Acts who did not make the cut this year included first-time nominee Bon Jovi, as well as multiple nominees LL Cool J, Donna Summer, the Beastie Boys, J. Geils Band, Chuck Willis, Chic and Joe Tex.

The nonination of shock rock icon Cooper and his original band seemed a long time coming given their commercial success -- four platinum albums and five Top 40 hits between 1971-73 -- and stature as theatrical pioneers.

Cooper figures it's about time the band got into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. But he wasn't worried about it."I've always felt the same way about this whole thing," he tells Billboard.com. "I kind of sat back and said, 'It will happen eventually.' "


"It did get to be kind of a joke, not being nominated," Cooper (born Vincent Furnier) adds. "I got to the point where I was saying, 'OK, I'm the Pete Rose of rock 'n' roll!' So now that it's a reality, it's a different take on it. Now I sit there and go, 'Wow. Wow! We've got to really get up and play, and assume the position of being in the Hall of Fame.' It'll be great."


Cooper says the only time he was upset about not being on the ballot was in 2009, when Kiss, who he considers proteges of a sort, were nominated before him. "That one stung a little bit," he acknowledges. "I sat there and went, 'Now, wait a minute...Really? Are we invisible here, or what?' "


The original Cooper band -- guitarists Michael Bruce and the late Glen Buxton, bassist Dennis Dunaway and drummer Neal Smith -- splintered in 1974, after the "Muscle of Love" album. But Cooper, who's continued as a solo act ever since, says he would not have accepted induction if it wasn't for the entire band.


"The original band was cutting edge," he explains. "It was the original band that had all the iconic records from 'Love it to Death' on to 'Billion Dollar Babies' and 'Muscle of Love.' What I did after that was an aftermath. The original band were the guys that had to cut through that big, thick ice in order to become an entity out there. I can't see how I could just go up there as an individual."


The four surviving Alice Cooper members are currently together in Arizona rehearsing for a performance at Cooper's 10th Annual Christmas Pudding at Phoenix's Comerica Theater, benefiting his Solid Rock Foundation for children. (Rob Zombie, former Eagles guitarist Don Felder, Night Ranger, Glen Campbell, Cheech Marin and Roger Clyne & the Peacemakers are also performing). The group will perform at the induction ceremony, with Steve Hunter, who played in Cooper's "Welcome to My Nightmare" band, filling in for Buxton.


Major theatrics -- such as the guillotine or gallows -- are unlikely for the Hall of Fame ceremony, Cooper says, but it will hardly be a bare-bones performance.


"We'll play 'I'm Eighteen' and 'School's Out,' probably," he says, "but I'm sure there'll be weather balloons of confetti thrown into the audience and stuff like that. They'll know it's us."

http://www.billboard.com/...4661.story

And there might be a 5 city tour with the original band:

Are you thinking of playing in more shows with the original band in the near future?


I think it is inevitable. We have kind of been looking for an excuse to do that anyway. Why not do 4 or 5 major cities, Detroit especially since that's where we broke out of. Los Angeles, New York, London, Toronto. Those were like the five cities where we got our biggest push. We might do that in the spring.

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That should be awesome!

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Reply #43 posted 12/15/10 11:08am

Timmy84

^ So that means the band will be inducted along with Mr. Cooper, cool.

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Reply #44 posted 12/15/10 11:10am

PatrickS77

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Exactly... it would have been strange otherwise...

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Reply #45 posted 12/15/10 10:14pm

TonyVanDam

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lastdecember said:

doegx said:

i really dont understand why no Hall and Oates

one of life's greatest mysteries, them and Chicago, shit and the Moody Blues

....and KISS! disbelief

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Reply #46 posted 12/16/10 4:42am

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Well, once Alice is in I'm sure Kiss will follow eventually! I mean, they already have been nominated!

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Reply #47 posted 12/16/10 4:44am

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PatrickS77 said:

Well, once Alice is in I'm sure Kiss will follow eventually! I mean, they already have been nominated!

KISS should have been in the R&RHOF before Prince, Madonna, OR ABBA! neutral

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Reply #48 posted 12/16/10 5:21am

PatrickS77

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Yeah! That for sure!

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Reply #49 posted 12/16/10 7:29am

Empress

TonyVanDam said:

PatrickS77 said:

Well, once Alice is in I'm sure Kiss will follow eventually! I mean, they already have been nominated!

KISS should have been in the R&RHOF before Prince, Madonna, OR ABBA! neutral

Please..................rolleyes

Get a grip.

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Reply #50 posted 12/16/10 7:54am

PatrickS77

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^^KISS are more RnR than all 3 combined!

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Reply #51 posted 12/16/10 8:02am

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Empress said:

TonyVanDam said:

KISS should have been in the R&RHOF before Prince, Madonna, OR ABBA! neutral

Please..................rolleyes

Get a grip.

Excuse you, but you need to go to the library and study your music history before you can earn the right to tell anyone to "get a grip". rolleyes

An recording artist can be nominated for the R&RHOF exactly 25 years after the exact date of their debut album. In the case of KISS, they were mathematically qualify to be nominated about 4 years BEFORE Prince & 10 years BEFORE Madonna. neutral


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Reply #52 posted 12/16/10 8:09am

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PatrickS77 said:

^^KISS are more RnR than all 3 combined!

Exactly! nod

Madonna is a dance-pop, NOT rock & roll. And although ABBA does have 3 international hits that are rock tracks (Waterloo, So Long, Does Your Mama Know), their entire music category is strictly pop with some disco here and there.

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Reply #53 posted 12/20/10 4:50pm

sassy33

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lastdecember said:

one of life's greatest mysteries, them and Chicago, shit and the Moody Blues

....and KISS! disbelief

No Marvelettes, LaBelle/Patti, Rufus/Chaka, Dionne, Spinners, Stylistics, Delfonics, Harold Melvin/Teddy or Natalie Cole either.

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Reply #54 posted 12/21/10 3:13am

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leecappella said:

Eligibility (According To RockHall.Com)

To be eligible for induction as an artist (as a performer, composer, or musician) into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the artist must have released a record, in the generally accepted sense of that phrase, at least 25 years prior to the year of induction; and have demonstrated unquestionable musical excellence.

We shall consider factors such as an artist's musical influence on other artists, length and depth of career and the body of work, innovation and superiority in style and technique, but musical excellence shall be the essential qualification of induction.

The eligibility requirements don't seem to say anything about the genre of rock and roll, but I'm sure the genre of rock plays some part in the induction process.

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