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Reply #960 posted 11/09/10 12:02am

Timmy84

I heard the acapella audio...it's not Michael.

The "whoops" sound sampled.

And the only part where you think could be Michael is when he sings falsetto on the bridge.

It's not Michael's song.

[Edited 11/9/10 0:03am]

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Reply #961 posted 11/09/10 12:04am

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SherryJackson said:

Alright alright...it ain't MJ on there....

Where do we go from here? Do we riot or what? razz

:assemblespitchforksandtorches: lol

[Edited 11/8/10 23:52pm]

we're only a few of his fans, multiply us by the rest of his fans and I'm sure it'll come out. But I'm not sure if i'm interested in any future music now.

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Reply #962 posted 11/09/10 12:10am

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BabyBeMine said:

After listening to the acapella version im more convinced than its MJ.

There is no evidence of a MJ track with him singing FAST over the last 8 years.

Slow songs DONT COUNT

There is more strain on the older voice on up tempo tracks

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Reply #963 posted 11/09/10 12:26am

novabrkr

People, people. Let's stop calling people trolls. It's inconsiderate and supposes too much of their motives.

They're just either delusional or stupid.

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Reply #964 posted 11/09/10 12:39am

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Timmy84 said:

I heard the acapella audio...it's not Michael.

The "whoops" sound sampled.

And the only part where you think could be Michael is when he sings falsetto on the bridge.

It's not Michael's song.

[Edited 11/9/10 0:03am]

Teddy was either in or it and not paid because he knew it wasn't MJ, or he wasn't in on it, and now regrets his involvement to some degree.

The question is..who gave Eddie Casico the "rope" to start this mess with?

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Reply #965 posted 11/09/10 12:39am

novabrkr

^^^

I might get moderated for my previous comment. lol

But seriously speaking. I'm a pretty cynical person myself, but I do think there's always place for honesty. Apparently it doesn't seem to fucking matter these days.

I've already seen quite a few posts on other boards laughing at the fans coming up with "conspiracy theories" . What's equally baffling is the media's neutral attitude to it, which just reeks of their laziness to do any proper research on it. If you just take a few listens to it and play a track by Michael himself after it, it should be VERY obvious to anyone it's not Michael. The lyrics don't make that much sense either - why would Michael refer to himself in the 3rd person in that manner? I've also seen one newsbit mentioning that that the "pop singer Prince" was staying upstairs in the house where Michael was recording the new material. Of course, that would have been his son. It just proves how lazy these journalists can be.

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Reply #966 posted 11/09/10 1:07am

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just saw the joe interview, i love watching that motherfucker, he's so funny. Reminds me of my stepdad.

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Reply #967 posted 11/09/10 1:32am

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mozfonky said:

there are tools to tell if a person is an impersonator or not and if it is (and I'm damn sure it is) they will be called on it. I really don't think we need to worry about it, us fans do need to make some ruckus though. It's not michael, it sounds like a white man imitating michael, there isn't the graininess that michael has in his voice, nasally it doesn't sound like Mike, or even a black guy to me. I think we'll get it taken care of as fans though.

If what's been said on different forums, Sony and the Estate DEFINITELY know what fans think

and it ain't pretty lol

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Reply #968 posted 11/09/10 1:32am

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BabyBeMine said:

novabrkr said:

I'm pretty sure strain on an older voice doesn't make you sound younger.

And yes, slow songs count. Why wouldn't they?

Older MJ cant sing a fast track as good as young MJ and thats a fact. Young MJ could sing fast but still sound smooth and clear. Older MJ when he sang songs that required him to sing faster his voice sounded strained and not as smooth.

If MJ ay 49 years old sang the Off the Wall dance tracks we would be like.....THATS NOT MJ

Point is when your older its easier to sing slower songs

So I'm either to believe that either:

1. This is Michael Jackson and, in the 30 years of him releasing solo songs and albums as an adult, this is the only track that immediately struck me as sounding NOTHING like him at all, or

2. This is not him.

Also, I find it funny that:

1. It doesn't sound like Mike but it DOES sound like Jason Malachi, and

2. There were reports prior to release that these songs were not Michael Jackson, and the songs were not recorded with Teddy Riley, Rodney Jerkins, Quincy Jones, Bruce Swedien, Akon, will.i.am, or any other major producer or engineer... but rather in some home in Jersey.

If you think its him, cool. As for my ears, nah, that ain't him.


[Edited 11/9/10 2:23am]

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Reply #969 posted 11/09/10 1:59am

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When they removed the Prince symbol, they also changed the Captain EO part

check the version here

[IMG]http://i51.tinypic.com/2i71m6q.jpg[/IMG]

and the new version

[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs245.snc4/39588_474182986472_19691681472_5354644_7190204_n.jpg[/img]

and they removed the guy behind Off The Wall Michael

[Edited 11/9/10 2:01am]

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Reply #970 posted 11/09/10 2:09am

novabrkr

If they're still changing the cover art then there's a slight change the CDs haven't been pressed either. Or, the CDs have been already pressed, but the booklets have not been printed. Good post, Superstition. You summed it up.
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Reply #971 posted 11/09/10 2:36am

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Superstition said:

BabyBeMine said:

Older MJ cant sing a fast track as good as young MJ and thats a fact. Young MJ could sing fast but still sound smooth and clear. Older MJ when he sang songs that required him to sing faster his voice sounded strained and not as smooth.

If MJ ay 49 years old sang the Off the Wall dance tracks we would be like.....THATS NOT MJ

Point is when your older its easier to sing slower songs

So I'm either to believe that either:

1. This is Michael Jackson and, in the 30 years of him releasing solo songs and albums as an adult, this is the only track that immediately struck me as sounding NOTHING like him at all, or

2. This is not him.

Also, I find it funny that:

1. It doesn't sound like Mike but it DOES sound like Jason Malachi, and

2. There were reports prior to release that these songs were not Michael Jackson, and the songs were not recorded with Teddy Riley, Rodney Jerkins, Quincy Jones, Bruce Swedien, Akon, will.i.am, or any other major producer or engineer... but rather in some home in Jersey.

If you think its him, cool. As for my ears, nah, that ain't him.


[Edited 11/9/10 2:23am]

Pretty much all there is too it...

Plus what kind of moron writes a song in the third person...

really...

if that doesn't give it away, I dunno what else could...

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Reply #972 posted 11/09/10 2:40am

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I love how in the acapella version of this song, it sounds like they said: "Hmm, we're gonna randomly throw in this You Rock My World 'WHOOOOOO' right here, here, here, here, annnnnnnd, here. Oh, and let's put this slowed down Leave Me Alone "AAAAOOOOW' riiiiiiight here, here, oooh, and one more here. That should do it." Ha ha ha....

Unlike all of Michael's other acapella releases, there's absolutely no coherence in this one at all. This stuff is so ridiculous it's becoming comical. lol

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Reply #973 posted 11/09/10 2:49am

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WaterInYourBath said:

I love how in the acapella version of this song, it sounds like they said: "Hmm, we're gonna randomly throw in this You Rock My World 'WHOOOOOO' right here, here, here, here, annnnnnnd, here. Oh, and let's put this slowed down Leave Me Alone "AAAAOOOOW' riiiiiiight here, here, oooh, and one more here. That should do it." Ha ha ha....

Unlike all of Michael's other acapella releases, there's absolutely no coherence in this one at all. This stuff is so ridiculous it's becoming comical. lol

Yeah plus, almost every acapella I've heard has alot of background noise...

Because much to the dismay of most Producers,

Mike can't sit still during a vocal session, during some part you'll hear him snapping or stomping his feet.

This is overdubbed to death,

There is definitely some fuckery going on...

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Reply #974 posted 11/09/10 2:52am

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that does not sound like MJ. I'm shocked! eek
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Reply #975 posted 11/09/10 2:59am

novabrkr

[edit - new link below, what I've written here isn't necessarily relevant]

Wait a fucking minute... This is just a thought. Could it be possible that the song is called "Michael Jackson" and the "group" behind is "Breaking News" with Jason Malachi or some other individual capable of impersonating Michael? There is nothing on www.michaeljackson.com that would imply the song is "the new single" from the forthcoming record or anything like that. As of speaking, there's nothing on the site itself that would directly attribute the song to Michael Jackson. The video is titled "Breaking News - Michael Jackson" and it is quite uncommon to place the performer's or group's name after the track title.

It could be a test of some sort or a bizarre attempt at hyping the record up, although I might be just letting my imagination fly too far here. I am still more convinced that this is simply a scamming effort gone too far, but perhaps there is a possibility for something like this. Given the way the track is presented on the site, they are still able to back out from it. There doesn't seem to be anything incriminating about it, unless it also appears on a CD later on.

For that matter, what were the official announcements concerning this track like? Or were they just from secondary sources?

[Edited 11/9/10 3:06am]

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Reply #976 posted 11/09/10 3:01am

motownlover

goes listening to destiny and triumph music

i dont think ill be ever interested in 'new music after this fiasco.

mark ronson giving a vocal track to work with, teddy given a vocal track to work with but it has been changed with other vocals. im so GLAD i didnt pre order that shit

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Reply #977 posted 11/09/10 3:04am

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novabrkr said:

Wait a fucking minute... This is just a thought. Could it be possible that the song is called "Michael Jackson" and the "group" behind is "Breaking News" with Jason Malachi or some other individual capable of impersonating Michael? There is nothing on www.michaeljackson.com that would imply the song is "the new single" from the forthcoming record or anything like that. As of speaking, there's nothing on the site itself that would directly attribute the song to Michael Jackson. The video is titled "Breaking News - Michael Jackson" and it is quite uncommon to place the performer's or group's name after the track title.

It could be a test of some sort or a bizarre attempt at hyping the record up, although I might be just letting my imagination fly too far here. I am still more convinced that this is simply a scamming effort gone too far, but perhaps there is a possibility for something like this. Given the way the track is presented on the site, they are still able to back out from it. There doesn't seem to be anything discriminating about it, unless it also appears on a CD later on.

For that matter, what were the official announcements concerning this track like? Or were they just from secondary sources?

The official announcement was on MichaelJackson.com.

http://breakingnews.micha...lease.html

They released a teaser on Thursday or Friday, can't remember which date, then released the track at midnight eastern time on Monday morning.

Plus, they say its a song from the upcoming album.

[Edited 11/9/10 3:05am]

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Reply #978 posted 11/09/10 3:04am

novabrkr

http://prince.org/msg/8/346918

Eh, there goes my theory if this is true. lol

Here's to hoping it is. thumbs up!

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Reply #979 posted 11/09/10 3:09am

novabrkr

Okay. Thanks, Superstition.

I also wrote "discriminating" there. It of course should have read "incriminating".

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Reply #980 posted 11/09/10 3:17am

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WE GOT YO SONY. Splicing MJ's ad-libs and plaing them in Jason Malachi's vocals....shady.... http://www.youtube.com/wa...wWBhoGEeSo
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Reply #981 posted 11/09/10 3:28am

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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

Nuh uhh, I mean Treebark lol

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Ole boy is tryin' to bring back the '89 shag! I see you Jermaine LaJuane! lol

He should just cut off that hair, it's looking like a poodle. lol I don't know what went wrong with his hair staring back in 1973 but it hasn't been the same. lol

Oh geez... can't you finally stop it now?? This is getting old and not much different than all the people who were hounding Michael about his looks all his life!!

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Reply #982 posted 11/09/10 3:47am

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Timmy84 said:

He should just cut off that hair, it's looking like a poodle. lol I don't know what went wrong with his hair staring back in 1973 but it hasn't been the same. lol

Oh geez... can't you finally stop it now?? This is getting old and not much different than all the people who were hounding Michael about his looks all his life!!

And one of those people was Jermaine himself, along with his brothers and old-school loving poppa Joe.

But that's too much for some to take, including KJ.

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Reply #983 posted 11/09/10 3:50am

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EmbattledWarrior said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I love how in the acapella version of this song, it sounds like they said: "Hmm, we're gonna randomly throw in this You Rock My World 'WHOOOOOO' right here, here, here, here, annnnnnnd, here. Oh, and let's put this slowed down Leave Me Alone "AAAAOOOOW' riiiiiiight here, here, oooh, and one more here. That should do it." Ha ha ha....

Unlike all of Michael's other acapella releases, there's absolutely no coherence in this one at all. This stuff is so ridiculous it's becoming comical. lol

Yeah plus, almost every acapella I've heard has alot of background noise...

Because much to the dismay of most Producers,

Mike can't sit still during a vocal session, during some part you'll hear him snapping or stomping his feet.

This is overdubbed to death,

There is definitely some fuckery going on...

Definitely. nod

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Reply #984 posted 11/09/10 6:07am

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I'm hearing now that due to controversy this song has been pulled from 'Michael'. As far as I'm aware, "Breaking News" was never intended to be a single. It was put out as an album teaser. It seems strange that Sony would randomly upload a song, more than a month from the release date, that isn't planned to be a single. Unless they were testing the waters, seeing how obvious it is to fans that it's not Michael. Now that they've found out it is really obvious, maybe they'll not only pull "Breaking News" but all the Cascio songs that are sung by Jason Malachi (or whoever they hired). Because I suspect the rest of the Cascio songs are fake too.

Some of the song titles have been revealed and they all sound like someone has tried to come up with song titles that Michael Jackson might have come up with. Like "Breaking News" is obvious because Michael always had a problem with the media and wrote songs in the past like "Tabloid Junkie" and "Privacy". "Monster" is like "Thriller", Ghosts" and "Threatened". "Keep Your Head Up" sounds like to optimistic, positive type of song people would think Michael Jackson would come up with. I don't know what "Water" is. But do you see what I mean? They are all song titles that someone would imagine Michael Jackson would write. They sound like all the other fake MJ song titles we've heard in the past. So I am assuming they are all fake.

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Reply #985 posted 11/09/10 6:17am

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DarlingDiana said:

I'm hearing now that due to controversy this song has been pulled from 'Michael'. As far as I'm aware, "Breaking News" was never intended to be a single. It was put out as an album teaser. It seems strange that Sony would randomly upload a song, more than a month from the release date, that isn't planned to be a single. Unless they were testing the waters, seeing how obvious it is to fans that it's not Michael. Now that they've found out it is really obvious, maybe they'll not only pull "Breaking News" but all the Cascio songs that are sung by Jason Malachi (or whoever they hired). Because I suspect the rest of the Cascio songs are fake too.

Some of the song titles have been revealed and they all sound like someone has tried to come up with song titles that Michael Jackson might have come up with. Like "Breaking News" is obvious because Michael always had a problem with the media and wrote songs in the past like "Tabloid Junkie" and "Privacy". "Monster" is like "Thriller", Ghosts" and "Threatened". "Keep Your Head Up" sounds like to optimistic, positive type of song people would think Michael Jackson would come up with. I don't know what "Water" is. But do you see what I mean? They are all song titles that someone would imagine Michael Jackson would write. They sound like all the other fake MJ song titles we've heard in the past. So I am assuming they are all fake.

The first part of your post could be true. I too thought it was odd they'd release a track a month in advance for free. They did it for This Is It, but it seems odd that for something this big they'd do it again. However, the smarter thing would have been to have 5 or 10 people in a controlled setting hear the track to determine what they think. Such things are done all the time. Have a few people who aren't in the business come in, make sure they have no recording devices or electronics on them, and have them listen to the tracks. This move they've just pulled... it is beyond unbelievable. I'm still in shock any reputable company would pull something like this.

As for the quality, how many angry songs does Michael Jackson have where he doesn't sing in his angry voice? This would be the first. Perhaps its because the imitator can't copy MJ's angry voice. MJ would have been all over that track if it was real.. he'd have been doing "dahs" before and after every word, breathing in and out all over the place, and the end part would have been "You keep on, you know it, you're just breaking it"... you get the point. There's none of that here.

I actually can hear Mike singing this, and I think Teddy Riley did a decent job producing it for what its worth. He has some of Mike's ad-libs in the perfect places. But that's just the thing... how can someone who knew Mike so well, who obviously had a good understanding of Mike's ad-libs and such have a hand on this track? Let's go out on a limb and say that this is Michael Jackson. It doesn't sound like Michael Jackson, and that's the whole issue.

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Reply #986 posted 11/09/10 6:27am

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Superstition said:

The first part of your post could be true. I too thought it was odd they'd release a track a month in advance for free. They did it for This Is It, but it seems odd that for something this big they'd do it again. However, the smarter thing would have been to have 5 or 10 people in a controlled setting hear the track to determine what they think. Such things are done all the time. Have a few people who aren't in the business come in, make sure they have no recording devices or electronics on them, and have them listen to the tracks. This move they've just pulled... it is beyond unbelievable. I'm still in shock any reputable company would pull something like this.


It does seem unbelievable. But this is actually going to work out really well for them I think. I'm assuming at least some of the songs on the new album are really sung by Michael Jackson. After hearing "Breaking News", fans are going to flip the fuck out when they hear a real Michael Jackson song they've never heard before. All Sony need to do now is leak that "Breaking News" is a fake, officially announce that it's been pulled from the album, give it a couple of weeks, then release a real MJ song from the new album. People will go nuts for it. If there's one decent song on this new album that is actually sung by Michael Jackson, it will be massive!

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Reply #987 posted 11/09/10 6:44am

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Mj or NOT....that new track is WACK.

What is with that cheap ass drum machine?

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Reply #988 posted 11/09/10 6:48am

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Graycap23 said:

Mj or NOT....that new track is WACK.

What is with that cheap ass drum machine?

thats cuz dude is jason malachi...all his songs on youtube are wack...even if they would polish it.

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Reply #989 posted 11/09/10 6:56am

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Jason's tweets:

i am not associated with the #new #mj #breakingnews song. If it was really me, it would be alot harder to tell!

@marquegnies beat is pretty much mj'ish but the vocals are mediocre. its missing something and its obvious.

@m_electric it was okay, but its not MJ. i would of done a better job, sony should of called me up. Sony are wrong to sell it as MJ product.

http://twitter.com/Jason_Malachi

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