independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Best Guitarist Alive Today
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 2 of 4 <1234>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #30 posted 05/19/10 9:40am

phunkdaddy

avatar

RnBAmbassador said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Define "best"



It wouldn't include repetitive Ernie Isley - geez is he overrated


I would hardly label Ernie Isley overrated especially since he learned
his craft from who many consider to be the best in Jimi Hendrix.
And furthermore i don't recall anyone saying Ernie was the best.
It was said he is a beast. And even if Ernie was doing the same solo
over like you claim rolleyes it's still pretty damn good.
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #31 posted 05/19/10 9:43am

nursev

Must we do this lol


  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #32 posted 05/19/10 9:47am

PurpleDiamond2
009



this dude is pretty cool nod
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #33 posted 05/19/10 9:52am

Graycap23

Hummm.....that is a loaded question but I'd go with:

Prince
Buckethead
Jimi Hazel
Jessie Johnson
Carlos Santana
Jef Johnson
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #34 posted 05/19/10 9:56am

phunkdaddy

avatar

Graycap23 said:

Hummm.....that is a loaded question but I'd go with:

Prince
Buckethead
Jimi Hazel
Jessie Johnson
Carlos Santana
Jef Johnson


It is a loaded question but Jimi Hazel certainly should be
in the discussion.
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #35 posted 05/19/10 10:11am

BlaqueKnight

avatar

phunkdaddy said:



It is a loaded question..

That was my point. If you are going to have a "best" discussion, you have to have an understanding of what criteria determines "best".
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #36 posted 05/19/10 3:42pm

elmer

PurpleDiamond2009 said:



this dude is pretty cool nod

You gotta be kidding ain't yer? All that technical ability with shreddin' and delay doesn't make for interesting compositions but abhorrent aesthetics.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #37 posted 05/19/10 3:46pm

PurpleDiamond2
009

hey i dont know anythng about guitar lol the only song i heard from him was Jordan off of Guitar Hero and i thought it was cool so yeah lol lol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #38 posted 05/19/10 4:15pm

elmer

But the kfc bucket ain't too stylish either, what the fuck's up with him? is it what becomes of Axl's croneys?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #39 posted 05/19/10 10:21pm

vikings

Dweezil Zappa is a wonderful player. Tasteful and intricate over a wealth of styles and tones.

Check out ZPZ
[Edited 5/19/10 22:22pm]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #40 posted 05/19/10 10:30pm

Cerebus

avatar

I can't say who is best, but I'd rather listen to John Mayer than that John 5 guy. Warren Haynes is a bad, bad mf. Personally, I love Jack White. Clapton and Beck for sure. Prince is great but he seems to have finally hit a wall as far as creativity goes (only took, like, thirty years - and he still writes better songs than most anybody on Erf). A ton of jazz and metal guys that nobody knows by name. Santana has a BEAUTIFUL sound and I still dig his music, but dude isn't nearly as good a player as he used to be.
[Edited 5/19/10 22:31pm]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #41 posted 05/19/10 10:43pm

rmartin70

vikings said:

Dweezil Zappa is a wonderful player. Tasteful and intricate over a wealth of styles and tones.

Check out ZPZ
[Edited 5/19/10 22:22pm]

Yeah, Dweezil is a great guitar player. I saw the Zappa Plays Zappa concert live and I also own the DVD.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #42 posted 05/20/10 4:44am

rocknrolldave

avatar

nursev said:

Must we do this lol





Great picture - and of course great guitarist - but I hate to see such a lovely looking Stratocaster ruined with one of those hideous Floyd Rose trems. Yeeeew.

Even if I weren't a total whammy-ophobe (I block mine off), I'd much prefer a vintage trem than one of those double-locking monstrosities.
This is not an exit
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #43 posted 05/20/10 6:17am

abigail05

rocknrolldave said:

nursev said:


Great picture - and of course great guitarist - but I hate to see such a lovely looking Stratocaster ruined with one of those hideous Floyd Rose trems. Yeeeew.

Even if I weren't a total whammy-ophobe (I block mine off), I'd much prefer a vintage trem than one of those double-locking monstrosities.


I could not agree more! I was actually thinking about this at work a few hours ago. Prince must use a Floyd because a standard Fender trem just pulls the whole shit out of tune (doesn't it?) but still - Floyd Roses are SO 1985.

I think Lace pickups are gay as well. neutral
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #44 posted 05/20/10 6:18am

ThreadBare

Phil Keaggy (who's a nice guy, to boot)
Jeff Beck
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #45 posted 05/20/10 8:46am

rocknrolldave

avatar

abigail05 said:

rocknrolldave said:

nursev said:


Great picture - and of course great guitarist - but I hate to see such a lovely looking Stratocaster ruined with one of those hideous Floyd Rose trems. Yeeeew.

Even if I weren't a total whammy-ophobe (I block mine off), I'd much prefer a vintage trem than one of those double-locking monstrosities.


I could not agree more! I was actually thinking about this at work a few hours ago. Prince must use a Floyd because a standard Fender trem just pulls the whole shit out of tune (doesn't it?) but still - Floyd Roses are SO 1985.

I think Lace pickups are gay as well. neutral




YES! I hate the look of those blank pickup covers without the pole-pieces sticking out. Just looks wrong to me, like a face with no eyes or something..although I admit I have no idea what they sound like, so this is purely an aesthetic judgement!

(Didn't Clapton use them at one point..? Euch, not a tone I'd want to replicate myself in that case....)



EDIT: oh and yeah, the vintage trem is for the lighter touch only, not Prince in full on Fury/ Peach mode. Mind, Gilmour manages OK with the deep dives at the start of Sorrow..so maybe if they're set up right they're fine..?

Could be worse, could be a Bigsby..now they ARE "light wobbles only" territory!
[Edited 5/20/10 8:48am]
This is not an exit
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #46 posted 05/20/10 9:40am

BlaqueKnight

avatar

Those strat pickup coverings are many times, lace sensor pickups, which Prince has been known to use. Its likely that they are. As for the Floyd Rose, no one with a decent set of eyes would put one on a strat, so its got to be a custom job. That is hideous.
BUT...
We are drifting off topic.
Back to the guitar greats.....
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #47 posted 05/20/10 9:54am

Harlepolis

Graycap23 said:

Hummm.....that is a loaded question but I'd go with:

Prince
Buckethead
Jimi Hazel
Jessie Johnson
Carlos Santana
Jef Johnson


I forgot about him, def an underrated musician.

Had it not been for the solo work in the extended mixes, I probably would've never given his earlier hits the time of day.

To me, Bare My Naked Soul and Verbal Penetration are what REALLY sat him apart from Prince's camp,,,,both albums could def speak for themselves music

I'm still trying to track down his b-sides from "Naked Soul" though hmmm thesexofit made mentions of them couple of months ago.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #48 posted 05/20/10 9:55am

dseann

paligap said:

...

I think all I can really say is "favorite"--- it's too subjective, and everybody's looking for something different when they listen to music----it all comes down to what moves you, and in the end, that has very little to do with how much technique a player has, or doesn't have.....

I have a bunch of favorites , and they all probably vary widely in range and playing ability, but they all make me feel something special....but anyway, here are some of my favorites...




Allan Holdsworth
Jean Paul Bourelly
Wayne Krantz
Jeff Beck
Carlos Santana
Ernie Isley
Kazumi Watanabe
Pat Metheny
Prince
Lewis Taylor
Jimi Hazel
Larry Carlton
Bill Nelson
Nile Rodgers
Ray Gomez
Kevin Eubanks
David Gilmore
Corrado Rusticci
Dwayne 'Blackbird' Mcknight
Jef Lee Johnson
Wayne Johnson
Chielli Minucci
Michael Gregory








....
[Edited 5/18/10 15:40pm]



Where the fuck is Eric Claption? mad
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #49 posted 05/20/10 10:16am

BlaqueKnight

avatar

dseann said:



Where the fuck is Eric Claption? mad

This isn't Rolling Stone's list. lol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #50 posted 05/20/10 10:18am

dseann

BlaqueKnight said:

dseann said:



Where the fuck is Eric Claption? mad

This isn't Rolling Stone's list. lol


lol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #51 posted 05/20/10 10:32am

Graycap23

BlaqueKnight said:

dseann said:



Where the fuck is Eric Claption? mad

This isn't Rolling Stone's list. lol

thumbs up!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #52 posted 05/20/10 10:45am

Marrk

avatar

Seasick Steve. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...sick_Steve

Most interesting to me anyway.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #53 posted 05/20/10 11:36am

paligap

avatar

dseann said:

BlaqueKnight said:


This isn't Rolling Stone's list. lol


lol



razz Yeah, make your own list of favorites!!!! biggrin






...
" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #54 posted 05/20/10 12:55pm

kstrat

BlaqueKnight said:

Those strat pickup coverings are many times, lace sensor pickups, which Prince has been known to use. Its likely that they are. As for the Floyd Rose, no one with a decent set of eyes would put one on a strat, so its got to be a custom job. That is hideous.
BUT...
We are drifting off topic.
Back to the guitar greats.....


About the pickups, unless he's changed up fairly recently they're probably EMG's. From all accounts I've read about his rig he's used the SA,85 combo on his main stage guitars since the Purple Rain era. Not saying he's never used Lace Sensors, they're good pickups. I've never read any mention of them being used. I have the Silver, Silver, Blue set in my Strat-Plus.
[Edited 5/20/10 12:57pm]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #55 posted 05/20/10 1:01pm

kstrat

paligap said:

...

I think all I can really say is "favorite"--- it's too subjective, and everybody's looking for something different when they listen to music----it all comes down to what moves you, and in the end, that has very little to do with how much technique a player has, or doesn't have.....

I have a bunch of favorites , and they all probably vary widely in range and playing ability, but they all make me feel something special....but anyway, here are some of my favorites...




Allan Holdsworth
Jean Paul Bourelly
Wayne Krantz
Jeff Beck
Carlos Santana
Ernie Isley
Kazumi Watanabe
Pat Metheny
Prince
Lewis Taylor
Jimi Hazel
Larry Carlton
Bill Nelson
Nile Rodgers
Ray Gomez
Kevin Eubanks
David Gilmore
Corrado Rusticci
Dwayne 'Blackbird' Mcknight
Jef Lee Johnson
Wayne Johnson
Chielli Minucci
Michael Gregory








....
[Edited 5/18/10 15:40pm]


+ 1! Nice cross section of musicians on your list.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #56 posted 05/20/10 1:24pm

JesusFreak

avatar

Slash..Angus Young..
Guitar heroes whose been trailing one heck of a legacy
"Not to sound cosmic, but I've made plans for the next 3,000 years," he says. "Before, it was only three days at a time."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #57 posted 05/20/10 1:30pm

paligap

avatar

kstrat said:



+ 1! Nice cross section of musicians on your list.


biggrin Thanks ! Again, different styles and ability, but they all make me nod my head when they get going...but I couldn't begin to sit here and say who's "best"....

...and yeah, guys like Clapton, Mclaughlin, DiMeola, SRV, Satriani...all are legendary, and I certainly respect all those guys.... but my list is just personal favorites....




...
" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #58 posted 05/20/10 1:54pm

SPYZFAN1

hmmm...well let's talk about the greats that I rarely ever see (or read) any write-ups in many the guitar rags..

Jessie Johnson
Eddie Hazel
Mike Hampton
Blackbyrd
James "Blood" Ulmer
Ernie Isley
Wayne Krantz
Micheal Landau
Kendall Jones (Fishbone)
Spacey T
Victor Johnson
James Nolan
Tommy Bolin
Jean Paul Bourelly
Micheal Gregory
Felicia Collins
Ronnie Drayton
Gordon Gaines
Arthur Rhames (big influence on Vernon)
Dr. Know
Cornell Dupree
Hillel Slovak
Wah Wah Watson

..I know they're not "popular" in the record sales world, but they're all great and unique.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #59 posted 05/20/10 2:00pm

theAudience

avatar

paligap said:

...

I think all I can really say is "favorite"--- it's too subjective, and everybody's looking for something different when they listen to music----it all comes down to what moves you, and in the end, that has very little to do with how much technique a player has, or doesn't have.....

I have a bunch of favorites , and they all probably vary widely in range and playing ability, but they all make me feel something special....but anyway, here are some of my favorites...




Allan Holdsworth
Jean Paul Bourelly
Wayne Krantz
Jeff Beck
Carlos Santana
Ernie Isley
Kazumi Watanabe
Pat Metheny
Prince
Lewis Taylor
Jimi Hazel
Larry Carlton
Bill Nelson
Nile Rodgers
Ray Gomez
Kevin Eubanks
David Gilmore
Corrado Rusticci
Dwayne 'Blackbird' Mcknight
Jef Lee Johnson
Wayne Johnson
Chielli Minucci
Michael Gregory








....


You've listed most of my favorites so i'll expand a bit.

Johnny Smith (alive/retired)
George Benson (pre-Breezin')
B.B. King
Steve Vai
Greg Howe
Michael Landau
Kirk Fletcher
Robben Ford
Albert Lee
Tommy Emmanuel
Bill Frisell
John Scofield
Mike Stern
Lionel Loueke


Maybe more later as I think about them.

The "best living guitarist" is probably someone no one knows.
And I agree that these "best whatever" questions are pretty pointless without any specific parameters.


Music for adventurous listeners


tA

peace Tribal Records
[Edited 5/20/10 15:00pm]
"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 2 of 4 <1234>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Best Guitarist Alive Today