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Printablebboy87 said: Neverland had a cool ass arcade
 Yes. 
When I saw pictures of all those superhero statues in there (specifically the Bruce Lee one), I was like: 
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ernestsewell said: ViintageJunkiie said: That would have been torture to the neighbors. I've been to Neverland a few times and (I think I've stated it in one of the first MJ posts after his passing) the road you take up there is a SINGLE ROAD. One lane going up and one lane going down. Traffic would be horrible, especially for the people that actually live in the area. With such a small street, there's no way I would want a bunch of tourists blocking my house and lanes for hours a day
Obviously if Neverland would be a true tourist attraction, then the road would be widened and changed to accommodate the traffic. It'd be stupid to not change it. If you've been there, and saw how LONG the road is, you'd know that no one is going to widened the road for a pit stop to Figueroa Mountain Rd. | |
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Ellie said: They're both a bit empty to me. Neverland doesn't exist anymore and Graceland is a creation of the Presley estate. I wonder how much it resembles what it was prior to 1977.
If Neverland wasn't so stupidly expensive to run, it could have become a wonderful tribute to MJ - instead of the idea to charge MJ fans $1000+ to gather round some trench in Gary, Indiana and watch his hanger ons try to carve a career out for themselves, Neverland could have become a nice retreat to remember him and continue as a place for sick/disadvantaged kids to go at the same time. It was all just the wrong timing, plus we'll never really know how MJ truly felt about the place post-trial. There are too many conflicting reports from his crazy siblings. I don't think anything permanent or successful will ever be done in the realm of a Graceland for MJ fans until his kids are in full control of the estate. The rest of the Jacksons couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. I was in Memphis a few years ago and decided to check out Graceland. Not being a huge Elvis Presely fan, I went for the curiousity/legend of it. All I can say is, the out and out "horribleness" of this attraction probably has to be one of the best kept secrets going in the tourism industry. It was a cattle call line of buses going in and out of the house, (of which easily 3/4s of it was not for public viewing). The lion's share of the tour was spent walking between four or five aisles of old costumes, gold/platinum records, awards/etc....45 minutes and 30 or 40 dollars later, you're done. If this costed 5 or 10 bucks tops, whatever. It might have been worth it just to be able to say you went. I would even grant that perhaps if you worshipped Elvis and he was one of your heroes this might be worth your time, but to the average Joe/Jane, it felt like a total rip off. Hurry up - your bus is leaving.... Wait didn't I just get here? Conversely, the National Civil Rights Museum, (where MLK was assassinated) was very well done. You can spend as much time as you want and it is extremely educational. [Edited 3/14/10 13:19pm] | |
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In a way i'm happy Neverland didn't turn into a Tourist attraction (so far) | |
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Fenwick said: Conversely, the National Civil Rights Museum, (where MLK was assassinated) was very well done. You can spend as much time as you want and it is extremely educational. [Edited 3/14/10 13:19pm] wait? they finally did something with this? cool. I was there when I was 10 and it was just a few of the upstairs rooms that were turned into a museum. the rest of the motel was basically still a crack den. | |
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Timmy84 said: uPtoWnNY said: I'd go to Neverland, just to play in that bad-ass arcade.
WORD! There are arcades in Manhattan that don't compare to Michael's. I'd be living in that joint.  | |
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uPtoWnNY said: Timmy84 said: WORD! There are arcades in Manhattan that don't compare to Michael's. I'd be living in that joint. i hope mj's arcades arent those that u hav to pay a quarter to play  Atom Heart Mother | |
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alexothetimes said: i hope mj's arcades arent those that u hav to pay a quarter to play
You'll pay more than that with Papa Joe and Jermaine in charge. | |
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errant said: Fenwick said: Conversely, the National Civil Rights Museum, (where MLK was assassinated) was very well done. You can spend as much time as you want and it is extremely educational. [Edited 3/14/10 13:19pm] wait? they finally did something with this? cool. I was there when I was 10 and it was just a few of the upstairs rooms that were turned into a museum. the rest of the motel was basically still a crack den. Well the surrounding area is certainly still no walk in the park, but the immediate location was definitely done a up a little bit. Here's the link to what the permanent exhibits look like. http://www.civilrightsmus...hibits.htm It was a nice suprise. Apparently the last official tenant in the motel was forced to move out when they wanted to convert it to the museum. She still sets up a protest vigil every day/week. It's actually pretty depressing as she was summarily ignnored. Any way although Memphis is certainly is not a booming metropolis, it was an 8 hour road trip from Dallas so some of us took a chance at checking out Graceland/the Museum/ Beale St/a ball game etc....one weekend. We all came away feeling the exact same way about Graceland. And one of us was a fairly big Elvis fan. | |
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alexothetimes said: uPtoWnNY said: There are arcades in Manhattan that don't compare to Michael's. I'd be living in that joint. i hope mj's arcades arent those that u hav to pay a quarter to play I think he had it set up that you didn't have to pay to play them "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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question for all you MJ-heads....
in your opinion, do you think Michael Jackson would've liked to see his ranch become an amusement park? and is that place really gone now? where'd all that damn stuff go? you know damn well some staffers or someone got there hands on some good shit. 
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lol. Certainly not Graceland. | |
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bboy87 said: alexothetimes said: i hope mj's arcades arent those that u hav to pay a quarter to play I think he had it set up that you didn't have to pay to play them j-fab would change that Atom Heart Mother | |
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CHIC0 said: question for all you MJ-heads....
in your opinion, do you think Michael Jackson would've liked to see his ranch become an amusement park? and is that place really gone now? where'd all that damn stuff go? you know damn well some staffers or someone got there hands on some good shit. Well, Before Michael passed away, he had no intention of moving back there but he wasn't willing to let it go and I think he was planning on doing something with the property. He had been thinking of setting up a Michael Jackson or Jackson Family museum since the early 90s too. All the stuff in Neverland..... most of it is part of the Michael Jackson Exhibition at the o2 Arena in London and another exhibition in Hong Kong. The exhibition was in LA back in May I think, right Timmy? anyway, someone I know on a MJ board went to the LA exhibition and took pictures thanks to SameDifference on KOP for the pictures 
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