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Thread started 03/23/10 12:45pm

nyse

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The state of hip hop today

Its definitely not as influential to the community in a positive way.
Mainstream hip hop is less diverse musically and lyrically.
The subject matter now is very one sided. In the past with hip hop you had more of a balance.
You had 2 Live Crew talking about getting some booty,
you had N.W.A. talking about gang reality,
then you had groups like MC Hammer, Young MC,
A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul and Arrested Development.
Pretty much every topic that could be discussed was being discussed.
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Reply #1 posted 03/23/10 12:52pm

nyse

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just saying... lol
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Reply #2 posted 03/23/10 12:54pm

Graycap23

DOA.
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Reply #3 posted 03/23/10 12:57pm

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I've never liked hip hop at all but I can respect that is was a really good thing when it first came out. People were talking about real life & real problems as apposed to all the bubblegum pop. I think it really meant something then, but now it seems its all about being a "player" & being rich & famous & just a douche in general sad
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Reply #4 posted 03/23/10 1:06pm

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TheScouser said:

I've never liked hip hop at all but I can respect that is was a really good thing when it first came out. People were talking about real life & real problems as apposed to all the bubblegum pop. I think it really meant something then, but now it seems its all about being a "player" & being rich & famous & just a douche in general sad

Yeah, that´s why I hate it.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #5 posted 03/23/10 1:09pm

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I hope it fucking dies because ever since '97, it just sounds like a crappy P. Diddy rip-off, pop music shit!!!! mad
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Reply #6 posted 03/23/10 1:28pm

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I don't think hip-hop is dead. It's just the wrong artists get signed, like in every other genre now. But there are a few rappers that I like. I even started a thread about a new one today (Diggy Simmons), and I NEVER start threads, so because of him I still have some faith in the future of hip-hop.
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Reply #7 posted 03/23/10 7:37pm

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The state of hiphop is sexier than ever. love2
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I do nothing professionally.
I only do things for fun.

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Reply #8 posted 03/23/10 7:49pm

Timmy84

"They only say hip-hop is dead because the dope shit is underground." - Anonymous
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Reply #9 posted 03/23/10 8:49pm

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NastradumasKid said:

I hope it fucking dies because ever since '97, it just sounds like a crappy P. Diddy rip-off, pop music shit!!!! mad



That is false.

a gang of dope albums came out around the dawn of the new millenium.


HipHop became too popular. most of the consumers are casuals and they want to hear thugged out dance music.

Record Labels know this and so they give the people what they want.

Rap music with substance and creativity is looked down upon by most listeners.
You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam!
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Reply #10 posted 03/23/10 8:50pm

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Graycap23 said:

DOA.


^
Jay-Z is a hypocrite and that song is a gimmick in itself.
You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam!
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Reply #11 posted 03/23/10 8:55pm

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minneapolisFunq said:

NastradumasKid said:

I hope it fucking dies because ever since '97, it just sounds like a crappy P. Diddy rip-off, pop music shit!!!! mad



That is false.

a gang of dope albums came out around the dawn of the new millenium.


HipHop became too popular. most of the consumers are casuals and they want to hear thugged out dance music.

Record Labels know this and so they give the people what they want.

Rap music with substance and creativity is looked down upon by most listeners.


False??? Were you around in '97? I'm not saying all rap at that time and the early 00s was bad, but come on. Rap music changed drasically in the late 90s!!!!


lol lol lol lol lol
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Reply #12 posted 03/23/10 9:09pm

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^

Of course it changed but you could argue that there was just as much good hiphop as there was bad during that time period.



1997=wutang 4ever

come on now. hiphop was still thriving back then.

just because Nas sold out doesnt mean everyone else did.
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Reply #13 posted 03/23/10 9:10pm

Timmy84

I have to agree. Hip-hop was still alive and booming in 1997. I think rap started to fall out of favor with me starting around 2002-2003.
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Reply #14 posted 03/23/10 9:11pm

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Of course it changed but you could argue that there was just as much good hiphop as there was bad during that time period.



1997=wutang 4ever

come on now. hiphop was still thriving back then.

just because Nas sold out doesnt mean everyone else did.


Yeah I know, but still, some of it was crappy.
I love nas, but man going to Def Jam was such a bad move on his part. I really do wonder why. BTW, I like Wu but they Sold out too. lol
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Reply #15 posted 03/23/10 9:22pm

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Timmy84 said:

"They only say hip-hop is dead because the dope shit is underground." - Anonymous

headbang
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Reply #16 posted 03/23/10 9:31pm

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NastradumasKid said:

minneapolisFunq said:

^

Of course it changed but you could argue that there was just as much good hiphop as there was bad during that time period.



1997=wutang 4ever

come on now. hiphop was still thriving back then.

just because Nas sold out doesnt mean everyone else did.


Yeah I know, but still, some of it was crappy.
I love nas, but man going to Def Jam was such a bad move on his part. I really do wonder why. BTW, I like Wu but they Sold out too. lol



how did they sell out?

the only member of the clan i would say sold out is method man.

you should try listening to some new artists if you think most of the music back then sucked.

You are simply biting into the wrong side of the pizza
You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam!
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Reply #17 posted 03/23/10 9:36pm

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In the 1980s, the good rap (the ass shaking jams) was being played on R&B radio and the shit hop (the stripped down slow beat stuff with some talking) was underground. In the 1990s, the tables turned and the radio started playing the shit hop and the good stuff went underground. Nowadays, all of it is shit hop.
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