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Thread started 01/24/10 10:40am

CocoRock

Axl Rose is a lil' BROTCH!

http://m.tmz.com/site?sid...hirts-hat/

Guns N' Roses fans were forced to take sides in the legendary war between Axl Rose and Slash -- after security at a recent GNR show banned fans from wearing Slash gear inside the show. It all went down at the GNR show in Canada last Wednesday -- concert security informed fans that they were required to turn their Slash t-shirts inside out .... and leave their top hats outside. TMZ spoke with a member of the concert security team who confirmed the marching orders -- and told us the instructions were passed down from a producer for the band. We're told a few fans took the high road and went home ... but most just sucked it up and did what they were told.

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Reply #1 posted 01/24/10 10:43am

Timmy84

This is why the original Guns 'n' Roses will never get back together because of bullshit like this.
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Reply #2 posted 01/24/10 10:51am

CocoRock

Timmy84 said:

This is why the original Guns 'n' Roses will never get back together because of bullshit like this.

Sad but true.
http://www.contactmusic.c...rs_1127762
ROSE & SLASH CONSTANTLY REJECT GUNS N' ROSES REUNION OFFERS

Rockers AXL ROSE and SLASH have turned down deals worth "hundreds of millions" to reform the original GUNS N' ROSES line-up - because they still can't stand to be around one another.
Drummer Stever Adler was the first of the original members of the rock group to leave - he was fired in 1990 after his drug habit spiralled out of control - and guitarist Slash quit the band in 1996 following a series of rows with Rose.
He went on to form his own successful band, Velvet Revolver, and has previously stated "one of the two of us would die” before a reunion could ever take place.
Other members to have walked out include Izzy Stradlin and Duff MCKagan.
And not even massive offers worth hundreds of millions of dollars have convinced the musicians to reunite - because Slash still remembers the feuding between him and Rose during their final concerts together.
He tells Britain's GQ magazine, "During that last tour, it was like an ongoing exercise in how we could bond the least. It just got worse and worse.
"It got to a point offstage where it was impossible for us to even be in the same room together and create any music.
"So it's sad that something so good doesn't exist any more, even though we're both still alive and on the same planet."
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Reply #3 posted 01/24/10 10:53am

Cinnie

In Regina Saskatchewan lol

A co-worker of mine said the crowd here was bored or didn't know any of the Chinese Democracy songs which the setlist mainly consists of.
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Reply #4 posted 01/24/10 10:55am

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I never did like his redneck looking ass.
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Reply #5 posted 01/24/10 10:57am

CocoRock

^^^ GNR this is not.
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Reply #6 posted 01/24/10 11:01am

CocoRock

vainandy said:

I never did like his redneck looking ass.

I thought he was hot back in the day, but also thought him to be an asshole.
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Reply #7 posted 01/24/10 11:02am

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Yeah, Axl has his moments but he is still the best rock and roll singer I have ever seen live. I have seen him 6 times live (3x with original GNR and 3x with new lineup). His voice is amazing live. And yes I have had to wait a couple of hours for him to hit the stage, but he was always worth it. I do wish he would be more professional and go on stage on time.
On December 19th,2009 Guns n' Roses played 3 hours and 40 minutes at the Tokyo Dome. The set included most of Appetite For Destruction and covers of "Ziggy Stardust" and "Whole Lotta Rosie." I wish I could have been there.

I also have three unused ticket stubs from cancelled shows.
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Reply #8 posted 01/24/10 11:02am

Cinnie

CocoRock said:

vainandy said:

I never did like his redneck looking ass.

I thought he was hot back in the day, but also thought him to be an asshole.

I didn't mind them white spandex shorts lol
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Reply #9 posted 01/24/10 11:02am

Timmy84

CocoRock said:

vainandy said:

I never did like his redneck looking ass.

I thought he was hot back in the day, but also thought him to be an asshole.


Yeah he was hot but he was always a douche. And now he's ugly as fuck. neutral
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Reply #10 posted 01/24/10 11:03am

Timmy84

Cinnie said:

CocoRock said:


I thought he was hot back in the day, but also thought him to be an asshole.

I didn't mind them white spandex shorts lol


I felt something hard in my crotch whenever I saw him in them. jerkoff lol

TMI I know. redface
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Reply #11 posted 01/24/10 11:10am

CocoRock

rmartin70 said:

Yeah, Axl has his moments but he is still the best rock and roll singer I have ever seen live. I have seen him 6 times live (3x with original GNR and 3x with new lineup). His voice is amazing live. And yes I have had to wait a couple of hours for him to hit the stage, but he was always worth it. I do wish he would be more professional and go on stage on time.
On December 19th,2009 Guns n' Roses played 3 hours and 40 minutes at the Tokyo Dome. The set included most of Appetite For Destruction and covers of "Ziggy Stardust" and "Whole Lotta Rosie." I wish I could have been there.

His voice was amazing. And I only say WAS because I can't be bothered to check for the new ish. But that concert sounds pretty dope.
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Reply #12 posted 01/24/10 11:14am

CocoRock

Cinnie said:

CocoRock said:


I thought he was hot back in the day, but also thought him to be an asshole.

I didn't mind them white spandex shorts lol

OKKKAAAY!
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Reply #13 posted 01/24/10 11:43am

Cinnie

Timmy84 said:

Cinnie said:


I didn't mind them white spandex shorts lol


I felt something hard in my crotch whenever I saw him in them. jerkoff lol

TMI I know. redface


Weren't you, like, seven? lol
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Reply #14 posted 01/24/10 11:51am

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Isn't Axl like certifible mentally ill?
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Reply #15 posted 01/24/10 11:53am

Cinnie

lazycrockett said:

Isn't Axl like certifible mentally ill?


It just makes his songwriting better. smile
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Reply #16 posted 01/24/10 12:42pm

Timmy84

Cinnie said:

Timmy84 said:



I felt something hard in my crotch whenever I saw him in them. jerkoff lol

TMI I know. redface


Weren't you, like, seven? lol


Yeah and? giggle
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Reply #17 posted 01/24/10 1:33pm

ernestsewell

Timmy84 said:

This is why the original Guns 'n' Roses will never get back together because of bullshit like this.

And because Axl strong armed all of them into signing over the rights to the name and performing as Guns N Roses. Frankly, those guys, and the others, were a LOT better in Velvet Revolver. I'm not a hard rock fan, but I love those two albums.

William Bruce Bailey is plastic surgery, has-been, piece of gutter trash.
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Reply #18 posted 01/24/10 1:57pm

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CocoRock said:



And not even massive offers worth hundreds of millions of dollars have convinced the musicians to reunite - because Slash still remembers the feuding between him and Rose during their final concerts together.
He tells Britain's GQ magazine, "During that last tour, it was like an ongoing exercise in how we could bond the least. It just got worse and worse.
"It got to a point offstage where it was impossible for us to even be in the same room together and create any music.
"So it's sad that something so good doesn't exist any more, even though we're both still alive and on the same planet."



Sigh. Check out this finale of the original G n' R's last ever concert (Buenos Aires, 1993), from about 1:25 onwards:



Do these look like two men who couldn't stand to be around eachother? Now, I'm not trying to suggst that Axl and Slash got on well all the time, but I am suggesting that we shouldn't unquestioningly swallow everything that the esteemed Guitar Hero (tm) says.
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[Edited 1/24/10 14:01pm]
It's been too long since you've had your ass kicked properly:


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Reply #19 posted 01/24/10 2:28pm

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I wish they would just leave their egos at the door and get the fuck over it.

Chinese Democracy is full of great songwriting and the guitar work is insane, but it lacks the passion of Slash's playing.

As for Slash's post GNR-projects, the first Velvet Revolver album was cool, but the second one sucked and it seems as if they're all but over these days...
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Reply #20 posted 01/24/10 2:31pm

CocoRock

ReddishBrownOne said:

CocoRock said:



And not even massive offers worth hundreds of millions of dollars have convinced the musicians to reunite - because Slash still remembers the feuding between him and Rose during their final concerts together.
He tells Britain's GQ magazine, "During that last tour, it was like an ongoing exercise in how we could bond the least. It just got worse and worse.
"It got to a point offstage where it was impossible for us to even be in the same room together and create any music.
"So it's sad that something so good doesn't exist any more, even though we're both still alive and on the same planet."



Sigh. Check out this finale of the original G n' R's last ever concert (Buenos Aires, 1993), from about 1:25 onwards:



Do these look like two men who couldn't stand to be around eachother? Now, I'm not trying to suggst that Axl and Slash got on well all the time, but I am suggesting that we shouldn't unquestioningly swallow everything that the esteemed Guitar Hero (tm) says.
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[Edited 1/24/10 14:01pm]

Now give up some backstage footage! razz
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Reply #21 posted 01/24/10 6:53pm

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I just finished reading Slash's book from beginning to end. I could not put it down.



In the book Slash and his wife were in their hotel room and were going to go down and check out the GNR show. Word got out that Slash was in the building. Security came up to their room and informed them that they were banned from attending the show neutral

Axl is one dude that is probably still abusing heroin. Without Slash GNR is nothing.

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Reply #22 posted 01/24/10 7:43pm

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Deep down, I think Slash and Axl really love each other and they are too much alike. The only difference to me is that Slash, has always had good damn sense, whereas Axl is bashit.
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Reply #23 posted 01/24/10 7:50pm

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Too much praise way too quick. This band was given the keys to the kingdom way too quick, without proof of the Legend status they were given.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #24 posted 01/24/10 7:52pm

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In my estimation, GNR is amazing and they are legends. Same with Nirvana. We'll never see the likes of them again
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Reply #25 posted 01/24/10 8:10pm

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I think alot of the praise comes from the early end of both groups. Nirvana came at a time, lived quick, started something and then was gone in a flash, so there is always going to be that "status" for them because we have no clue what they would have still done, the same with GnR, they came fast but were gone even faster, all were just a change from the climate at the time (though GnR werent) but as good as they were better bands existed in their genres.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #26 posted 01/24/10 8:46pm

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lastdecember said:

Too much praise way too quick. This band was given the keys to the kingdom way too quick, without proof of the Legend status they were given.

Very true. They really rocked when they came out, but that didn't make them instant legends. What's sad is that despite their chemistry at the time, their legacy and history are more littered with Axl's shenanigans, all of their alcoholism, personnel changes, and in-fighting, than with their musical influence or true place in music history - wherever that may be. Anything without the original lineup, or the Gilby Clark replacement lineup, is trash to me. That shit w/ Buckethead at the MTV thing.....whatever. Axl is not GnR. Never has been, never will be.
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Reply #27 posted 01/25/10 3:09am

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ernestsewell said:

lastdecember said:

Too much praise way too quick. This band was given the keys to the kingdom way too quick, without proof of the Legend status they were given.

Very true. They really rocked when they came out, but that didn't make them instant legends. What's sad is that despite their chemistry at the time, their legacy and history are more littered with Axl's shenanigans, all of their alcoholism, personnel changes, and in-fighting, than with their musical influence or true place in music history - wherever that may be. Anything without the original lineup, or the Gilby Clark replacement lineup, is trash to me. That shit w/ Buckethead at the MTV thing.....whatever. Axl is not GnR. Never has been, never will be.


Maybe not, but he was 50% of it for sure, Slash being the other 50%. The others in the original line-up (Duff, Izzy etc) could've been anyone and were just lucky to be in a band with one of the best lead singers and one of the greatest guitarists in rock history.

Axl was a massive factor in the bands success, which is why I can listen to Chinese Democracy and still feel like it's GNR. If Slash joined Axl again the picture would be complete. The reason the others are so interchangeable is because they can all be easily replaced with musicians equally as competant. The same can't be said for Axl or Slash.
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Reply #28 posted 01/25/10 7:55am

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MattyJam said:

ernestsewell said:

Axl is not GnR. Never has been, never will be.


Maybe not, but he was 50% of it for sure, Slash being the other 50%. The others in the original line-up (Duff, Izzy etc) could've been anyone and were just lucky to be in a band with one of the best lead singers and one of the greatest guitarists in rock history.

Axl was a massive factor in the bands success, which is why I can listen to Chinese Democracy and still feel like it's GNR. If Slash joined Axl again the picture would be complete. The reason the others are so interchangeable is because they can all be easily replaced with musicians equally as competant. The same can't be said for Axl or Slash.

Matty, I'm going to disagree a tad on your statement. I think often times hero worshipers (I don't mean that derogatorily) dismiss the others in a band, leaving only the guitarist and lead singer as the "only people who count". Steve Tyler/Joe Perry of Aerosmith. Jon Bon Jovi/Richie Sambora of Bon Jovi. David Lee Roth/Eddie VanHalen of Van Halen. Yet the opposite is true for a band like Metallica who people consider Lars Urlich/James Hetfield to be the driving force behind.

I think to casually dismiss a drummer, a bass player, a keyboardist, or another guitar player as just hired help isn't fair to them, or the band at large. The fact remains that whoever is in the band - THOSE are the people who have THAT chemistry and made THOSE songs. Who knows if something like "Welcome To The Jungle" would have been what it was without Duff, Steven, or Izzy. Everyone plays differently. Vibes, moods, attitudes, interaction, whatever would have been different had the members been different. Look at how Prince's band sound changed after The Revolution was gone. Who made The Revolution what it was? They didn't have THAT sound when Dez was there. Nor did they when Andre or Gayle were there. Yet when Brownmark and Wendy and Fink shows up (over half the band changed at some point in a small span of time), THEN the sound was solidified.

The difference w/ GnR was that Axl was a dictator instead of just a part of the group. He made people play what HE wanted. So yeah, despite the GnR line up at this point, it wouldn't matter. He's making folks do what he wants instead of having their own vibe and take on the songs. No one will ever play in GnR like Slash did. No one will ever have the same voices and intonations that Steven, Izzy, or Duff had.

I think Chinese Democracy's biggest claim to success wasn't that "Finally, the next GnR album is out!", but rather "Let's see what all the fuss is about".
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Reply #29 posted 01/25/10 8:10am

zaza

MattyJam said:

ernestsewell said:


Very true. They really rocked when they came out, but that didn't make them instant legends. What's sad is that despite their chemistry at the time, their legacy and history are more littered with Axl's shenanigans, all of their alcoholism, personnel changes, and in-fighting, than with their musical influence or true place in music history - wherever that may be. Anything without the original lineup, or the Gilby Clark replacement lineup, is trash to me. That shit w/ Buckethead at the MTV thing.....whatever. Axl is not GnR. Never has been, never will be.


Maybe not, but he was 50% of it for sure, Slash being the other 50%. The others in the original line-up (Duff, Izzy etc) could've been anyone and were just lucky to be in a band with one of the best lead singers and one of the greatest guitarists in rock history.

Axl was a massive factor in the bands success, which is why I can listen to Chinese Democracy and still feel like it's GNR. If Slash joined Axl again the picture would be complete. The reason the others are so interchangeable is because they can all be easily replaced with musicians equally as competant. The same can't be said for Axl or Slash.

I disagree. Even Slash told in some interview that with Izzy he had this chemistry to write songs. And by the way, Izzy wrote plenty of riffs, which Slash even don't know how to play. So saying "Slash was 50% of GN'R" is not true.
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