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PrintableMilitant said: They might have a copy but that doesn't mean they have the rights to release it. They would have to work out a new deal with the BBC which would be more hassle than I think they care to get involved with.
I mean, they won't even release stuff that they DO have the rights to, like the HIStory and Bad tour footage lol.....so what are the chances they're gonna want to try and put something out that they DON'T own? 
Unfortunately a crappy VHS-sourced web rip is the best we're gonna get for "The Making Of Moonwalker". The HIStory tour was horrible though. Damn near every song was lipsynced. There are copies of both HIStory and BAD tours out there, and the BAD tour is pretty good. I would bet though, that as time passes, someone is going to pull out those tapes, piece some stuff together, remaster the sound, and sell it. As Whoopi Goldberg said, rather cynically, "Michael Jackson is the gift that keeps on giving". She's right. All that stuff we've either heard about, downloaded a copy of, wished for, etc will eventually come out. It always does. Funny you mention Moonwalker. I JUST downloaded an ISO of it the other day in hopes that it would be a copy without foreign language overdubs or subtitles. I had success. I burned the DVD last night, and it was a great DVD image. I'm not sure where it was released overseas or anything but it's nice to finally have a good copy of it. Every copy I was finding, even a really good AVI, was overdubbed in French or Spanish. | |
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ernestsewell said: Militant said: They might have a copy but that doesn't mean they have the rights to release it. They would have to work out a new deal with the BBC which would be more hassle than I think they care to get involved with.
I mean, they won't even release stuff that they DO have the rights to, like the HIStory and Bad tour footage lol.....so what are the chances they're gonna want to try and put something out that they DON'T own?
Unfortunately a crappy VHS-sourced web rip is the best we're gonna get for "The Making Of Moonwalker". The HIStory tour was horrible though. Damn near every song was lipsynced. There are copies of both HIStory and BAD tours out there, and the BAD tour is pretty good. I would bet though, that as time passes, someone is going to pull out those tapes, piece some stuff together, remaster the sound, and sell it. As Whoopi Goldberg said, rather cynically, "Michael Jackson is the gift that keeps on giving". She's right. All that stuff we've either heard about, downloaded a copy of, wished for, etc will eventually come out. It always does. Funny you mention Moonwalker. I JUST downloaded an ISO of it the other day in hopes that it would be a copy without foreign language overdubs or subtitles. I had success. I burned the DVD last night, and it was a great DVD image. I'm not sure where it was released overseas or anything but it's nice to finally have a good copy of it. Every copy I was finding, even a really good AVI, was overdubbed in French or Spanish. I LOVE the HIStory tour, he does some of the coolest dance moves in it  ..It's a shame that he was having throat problems at this time. I'm just glad that he didn't cancel it all together. Although on some of the tour he actually did sing live.(probably the early part of it)
As far as the DVD's there is soooo many things that can be released, alot in high quality as well..I'd like to see more Victory Tour and Triumph Tour myself..And as far I saw know Michael always hired cameramen to follow him everywhere and film everything 
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GraffitiKid said: As far as the DVD's there is soooo many things that can be released, alot in high quality as well..I'd like to see more Victory Tour and Triumph Tour myself..And as far I saw know Michael always hired cameramen to follow him everywhere and film everything
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ernestsewell said: Militant said: They might have a copy but that doesn't mean they have the rights to release it. They would have to work out a new deal with the BBC which would be more hassle than I think they care to get involved with.
I mean, they won't even release stuff that they DO have the rights to, like the HIStory and Bad tour footage lol.....so what are the chances they're gonna want to try and put something out that they DON'T own?
Unfortunately a crappy VHS-sourced web rip is the best we're gonna get for "The Making Of Moonwalker". The HIStory tour was horrible though. Damn near every song was lipsynced. There are copies of both HIStory and BAD tours out there, and the BAD tour is pretty good. I would bet though, that as time passes, someone is going to pull out those tapes, piece some stuff together, remaster the sound, and sell it. As Whoopi Goldberg said, rather cynically, "Michael Jackson is the gift that keeps on giving". She's right. All that stuff we've either heard about, downloaded a copy of, wished for, etc will eventually come out. It always does. Funny you mention Moonwalker. I JUST downloaded an ISO of it the other day in hopes that it would be a copy without foreign language overdubs or subtitles. I had success. I burned the DVD last night, and it was a great DVD image. I'm not sure where it was released overseas or anything but it's nice to finally have a good copy of it. Every copy I was finding, even a really good AVI, was overdubbed in French or Spanish. you could've asked me for a link "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Militant said: bboy87 said: Honestly, I wouldn't surprised if MJJ Productions has a copy, even if BBC did do the documentary
They might have a copy but that doesn't mean they have the rights to release it. They would have to work out a new deal with the BBC which would be more hassle than I think they care to get involved with. I mean, they won't even release stuff that they DO have the rights to, like the HIStory and Bad tour footage lol.....so what are the chances they're gonna want to try and put something out that they DON'T own?
Unfortunately a crappy VHS-sourced web rip is the best we're gonna get for "The Making Of Moonwalker". I think we'll see a Bad Tour release in the near future, either a DVD or a live album....  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: ernestsewell said: The HIStory tour was horrible though. Damn near every song was lipsynced. There are copies of both HIStory and BAD tours out there, and the BAD tour is pretty good. I would bet though, that as time passes, someone is going to pull out those tapes, piece some stuff together, remaster the sound, and sell it. As Whoopi Goldberg said, rather cynically, "Michael Jackson is the gift that keeps on giving". She's right. All that stuff we've either heard about, downloaded a copy of, wished for, etc will eventually come out. It always does. Funny you mention Moonwalker. I JUST downloaded an ISO of it the other day in hopes that it would be a copy without foreign language overdubs or subtitles. I had success. I burned the DVD last night, and it was a great DVD image. I'm not sure where it was released overseas or anything but it's nice to finally have a good copy of it. Every copy I was finding, even a really good AVI, was overdubbed in French or Spanish. you could've asked me for a link Oh sure, NOW you bring it up. LOL | |
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ernestsewell said: bboy87 said: you could've asked me for a link Oh sure, NOW you bring it up. LOL You should've known I have connections! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: ernestsewell said: Oh sure, NOW you bring it up. LOL You should've known I have connections! Well,Hallowed B Thy Name, then, good Sir. | |
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ernestsewell said: bboy87 said: You should've known I have connections! Well,Hallowed B Thy Name, then, good Sir. "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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GraffitiKid said: ernestsewell said: The HIStory tour was horrible though. Damn near every song was lipsynced. There are copies of both HIStory and BAD tours out there, and the BAD tour is pretty good. I would bet though, that as time passes, someone is going to pull out those tapes, piece some stuff together, remaster the sound, and sell it. As Whoopi Goldberg said, rather cynically, "Michael Jackson is the gift that keeps on giving". She's right. All that stuff we've either heard about, downloaded a copy of, wished for, etc will eventually come out. It always does. Funny you mention Moonwalker. I JUST downloaded an ISO of it the other day in hopes that it would be a copy without foreign language overdubs or subtitles. I had success. I burned the DVD last night, and it was a great DVD image. I'm not sure where it was released overseas or anything but it's nice to finally have a good copy of it. Every copy I was finding, even a really good AVI, was overdubbed in French or Spanish. I LOVE the HIStory tour, he does some of the coolest dance moves in it ..It's a shame that he was having throat problems at this time. I'm just glad that he didn't cancel it all together. Although on some of the tour he actually did sing live.(probably the early part of it)
As far as the DVD's there is soooo many things that can be released, alot in high quality as well..I'd like to see more Victory Tour and Triumph Tour myself..And as far I saw know Michael always hired cameramen to follow him everywhere and film everything
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this was a set list on DVD
-I'll be there
-Don't Stop 9. Rock with you 10. Can't stop loving you 11. Dangerous 12. Black or white 13. Dirty Diana 14. Beat it 15. Thriller 16. Earth Song 17. We are the world Heal the world 18. You are not alone 19. Billie Jean 20. Will you be there 21. Man in the mirror "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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From the perspective of us fans looking at it now, yeah, the HIStory tour doesn't match up to the Bad tour.
But I saw the HIStory tour live, at Wembley, and it was one of the greatest days of my life. You just can't imagine the atmosphere. Completely electric. When that CGI intro started and Mike hit the stage, the screams of an entire stadium, the vibe.....wow I just can't explain it. Just hysteria to the max. Completely wild and awesome. Knowing that all the shows were filmed is so frustrating! I'd pay hundreds for a video of that show. Hell maybe I'd even see 10-year-old me in the footage somewhere....LOL |
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Militant said: From the perspective of us fans looking at it now, yeah, the HIStory tour doesn't match up to the Bad tour.
But I saw the HIStory tour live, at Wembley, and it was one of the greatest days of my life. You just can't imagine the atmosphere. Completely electric. When that CGI intro started and Mike hit the stage, the screams of an entire stadium, the vibe.....wow I just can't explain it. Just hysteria to the max. Completely wild and awesome. Knowing that all the shows were filmed is so frustrating! I'd pay hundreds for a video of that show. Hell maybe I'd even see 10-year-old me in the footage somewhere....LOL The HIStory Tour had ONE HELL OF A STAGE 
like...dude! I feel sorry for the guys who had to set that up and take it down every other day
Look at the Bad tour stage 
the Victory Tour 
and Dangerous 
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Wow, from the videos you never really get a sense of how massive the stages were. Also, those crowds were HUGE! How many people did he play in front of during a HIStory tour concert? 50,000? | |
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waw2002 said: Wow, from the videos you never really get a sense of how massive the stages were. Also, those crowds were HUGE! How many people did he play in front of during a HIStory tour concert? 50,000?
The biggest audiences Victory- 68, 000 (Miami, Florida) Bad- 125,000 (Liverpool) Dangerous 100,000 (Mexico City) HIStory- 125,000 (Prague, Czech Republic) 
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michael is cool
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waw2002 said: Wow, from the videos you never really get a sense of how massive the stages were. Also, those crowds were HUGE! How many people did he play in front of during a HIStory tour concert? 50,000?
In Prague? When he was here, they said 150 000 people. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: waw2002 said: Wow, from the videos you never really get a sense of how massive the stages were. Also, those crowds were HUGE! How many people did he play in front of during a HIStory tour concert? 50,000?
In Prague? When he was here, they said 150 000 people. yeah, the average number for the tour was around 43,000 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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I think the show I saw at Wembley was something like 70,000 people and I clearly remember just being blown away by the amount of people. I can't even imagine a show with twice as many, that's just mindblowing. |
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I was lucky enough to see Victory & BAD tour.. Michael's shows was ..wow just i have no words.. amazing?
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Sorry to change the subject, but did anyone here get the Opus? How fucking big is it?
It needs two people to open it! Fantastic content, but boy is it too big! And they sent me 2 by mistake! I'm gonna get a piece of glass and make an MJ table out of them....!  "My God it's full of Stars"
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Rorywan said: Sorry to change the subject, but did anyone here get the Opus? How fucking big is it?
It needs two people to open it! Fantastic content, but boy is it too big! And they sent me 2 by mistake! I'm gonna get a piece of glass and make an MJ table out of them....! Give me one of them!!!!
I don't know the exact weight, but a friend of mine said she couldn't carry it home from the post office "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Tomorrow would have been my second This Is It concert. I can't help but think what it would have been like to witness those shows live. To feel that buzz of anticipation and excitement in the O2 as the show started. To hear the roars go up with the intro of each song. For those "classic" moments and those "omg" ones that were sure to be made.
As for the release of other items, I think there is a fine balance that needs to be taken. With Michael gone it would have been easy for people to flood the market with quick cash in products that did nothing for his legacy (hello motown). I always felt that the first anniversary of his death would be the perfect time to release a new album of previously unreleased tracks. And then let the DVD's of past concerts be released in the lead up to Christmas. I do know that a few years ago Sony was looking at releasing a "greatest live moments" DVD but I would rather have a concert series boxset. At the end of the day, as long as it is done with the same respect and detail that Michael would have put into it had he lived, then I am fine to wait. As for Moonwalker - it has been available here (Australia) on DVD for the past few years. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Has "Ghosts" ever gotten a proper DVD release? I have the VHS box set (with book and cd single) from years back and i picked up a Vcd copy of it yesterday. All crap quality though. Would love to get a decent copy of it. It really is a bizarre short film, I could never understand why it featured "2bad" and not really "Ghosts" or "Is it scary". All the family/kids stuff is painfully cheesy but the dance choreography is amazing.
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Rorywan said: Sorry to change the subject, but did anyone here get the Opus? How fucking big is it?
It needs two people to open it! Fantastic content, but boy is it too big! And they sent me 2 by mistake! I'm gonna get a piece of glass and make an MJ table out of them....! I have heard of a few people being sent 2 by mistake I guess its just a computer error. It weighs 26 pounds but I am not sure if that is with the packaging or not. With Love there is no Death | |
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Rorywan said: Has "Ghosts" ever gotten a proper DVD release? I have the VHS box set (with book and cd single) from years back and i picked up a Vcd copy of it yesterday. All crap quality though. Would love to get a decent copy of it. It really is a bizarre short film, I could never understand why it featured "2bad" and not really "Ghosts" or "Is it scary". All the family/kids stuff is painfully cheesy but the dance choreography is amazing.
No official Ghosts DVD that I know of. I never got the box set  I only had the VHS on it's own. |
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Anyone heard about the supposed EU Blu-Ray release of Moonwalker coming out soon?
Coming out at the end of May - at least here in the UK anyway: http://hmv.com/hmvweb/dis...&sku=11481 HMV getting an exclusive, which doesn't surprise me as they have the DVD exclusive also. I think perhaps they bought out the company that owned the rights to the UK distribution. |
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b3xy said: Rorywan said: Sorry to change the subject, but did anyone here get the Opus? How fucking big is it?
It needs two people to open it! Fantastic content, but boy is it too big! And they sent me 2 by mistake! I'm gonna get a piece of glass and make an MJ table out of them....! I have heard of a few people being sent 2 by mistake I guess its just a computer error. It weighs 26 pounds but I am not sure if that is with the packaging or not. Not sure the weight, but u have to drag it across the floor to look at it! It really is too big! "My God it's full of Stars"
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Militant said: Anyone heard about the supposed EU Blu-Ray release of Moonwalker coming out soon?
Coming out at the end of May - at least here in the UK anyway: http://hmv.com/hmvweb/dis...&sku=11481 HMV getting an exclusive, which doesn't surprise me as they have the DVD exclusive also. I think perhaps they bought out the company that owned the rights to the UK distribution. Thats great news! "Highlights include an extended Claymation sequence and a 3-D vignette put together by the Disney Company" "My God it's full of Stars"
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