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Reply #30 posted 12/24/09 12:35pm

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Harlepolis said:

dreamfactory313 said:

Michael Jackson. He took everything to its highest level. Entertained the world like no other.


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The man was "showbiz" till the bitter end.

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Reply #31 posted 12/24/09 12:37pm

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Paris9748430 said:

daPrettyman said:



I hear more complaints here on the org than I do from "average" P fans I meet. They look forward to hearing "Let's Go Crazy" or "Purple Rain".



The "average" Prince fan doesn't have 1000 bootlegs that they've listened to a million times. Making themselves sick of hearing his hit songs.

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I know alot of people that go to his shows to hear Purple Rain and Let's Go Crazy....me, I go hoping to hear If I Was Your Girlfriend
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Reply #32 posted 12/24/09 12:38pm

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Graycap23 said:[quote]

daPrettyman said:

I just took a brief survey on a site and they wanted to know who was/is the greatest entertainer.


Sammy Davis Jr.
The Beatles
Michael Jackson
James Brown
The Rolling Stones
Madonna

Most talented: Sammy
Most visually entertaining: Jackson
Most impact on music: James Brown
Most overrated: Beatles
Don't belong on list: Madonna
Greatest missing from list: PRINCE

like I said, a lot of Prince fans refuse to label him an entertainer, but I've never seen the problem
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Reply #33 posted 12/24/09 12:39pm

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It's an opinion but I think the top 5 are Sammy, James, MJ, Prince & Tina.
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Reply #34 posted 12/24/09 12:43pm

murph

purplesweat said:

Who has the biggest global fan base?

Michael. cool

Prince shouldn't be on there considering he hasn't had a significant album release since SOTT. Michael was still selling out stadiums after a ten year hiatus.


Uh huh....Now you're are just making shit up....lol
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Reply #35 posted 12/24/09 12:49pm

Paris9748430

murph said:

purplesweat said:

Who has the biggest global fan base?

Michael. cool

Prince shouldn't be on there considering he hasn't had a significant album release since SOTT. Michael was still selling out stadiums after a ten year hiatus.


Uh huh....Now you're are just making shit up....lol



She wasn't even born when Sign O' the Times came out. So try not to take her too seriously.
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Reply #36 posted 12/24/09 12:52pm

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bboy87 said:

Paris9748430 said:




The "average" Prince fan doesn't have 1000 bootlegs that they've listened to a million times. Making themselves sick of hearing his hit songs.

nod

I know alot of people that go to his shows to hear Purple Rain and Let's Go Crazy....me, I go hoping to hear If I Was Your Girlfriend


I would have a seizure if he played Purple Music faint
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Reply #37 posted 12/24/09 12:52pm

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daPrettyman said:

I just took a brief survey on a site and they wanted to know who was/is the greatest entertainer.


Sammy Davis Jr.
The Beatles
Michael Jackson
James Brown
The Rolling Stones
Madonna

So far, here are their results:

Sammy Davis Jr. 18%
The Beatles 51%
Michael Jackson 42%
James Brown 14%
The Rolling Stones 27%
Madonna 15%


You're missing Freddie Mercury and Fred Astaire
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Reply #38 posted 12/24/09 1:19pm

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Graycap23 said:[quote]

daPrettyman said:

I just took a brief survey on a site and they wanted to know who was/is the greatest entertainer.


Sammy Davis Jr.
The Beatles
Michael Jackson
James Brown
The Rolling Stones
Madonna

Most talented: Sammy
Most visually entertaining: Jackson
Most impact on music: James Brown
Most overrated: Beatles
Don't belong on list: Madonna
Greatest missing from list: PRINCE


thumbs up! I love your list! I agree totally, I mean TOTALLY!!!
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Reply #39 posted 12/24/09 1:20pm

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Paris9748430 said:

daPrettyman said:



I hear more complaints here on the org than I do from "average" P fans I meet. They look forward to hearing "Let's Go Crazy" or "Purple Rain".



The "average" Prince fan doesn't have 1000 bootlegs that they've listened to a million times. Making themselves sick of hearing his hit songs.


Your two are so correct. That's the main reason that I rarely visit the PM&M thread.
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Reply #40 posted 12/24/09 1:41pm

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bboy87 said:

daPrettyman said:

I just took a brief survey on a site and they wanted to know who was/is the greatest entertainer.


Sammy Davis Jr.
The Beatles
Michael Jackson
James Brown
The Rolling Stones
Madonna

So far, here are their results:

Sammy Davis Jr. 18%
The Beatles 51%
Michael Jackson 42%
James Brown 14%
The Rolling Stones 27%
Madonna 15%


You're missing Freddie Mercury and Fred Astaire

I didn't make the list.
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Reply #41 posted 12/24/09 4:05pm

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Graycap23 said:[quote]

daPrettyman said:

I just took a brief survey on a site and they wanted to know who was/is the greatest entertainer.


Sammy Davis Jr.
The Beatles
Michael Jackson
James Brown
The Rolling Stones
Madonna

Most talented: Sammy
Most visually entertaining: Jackson
Most impact on music: James Brown
Most overrated: Beatles
Don't belong on list: Madonna
Greatest missing from list: PRINCE



i agree, i dont find anything entertaining about the beatles and madonna should not be mentioned on a same list with sammy, mj and james
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Reply #42 posted 12/24/09 11:48pm

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theAudience said:

daPrettyman said:

I just took a brief survey on a site and they wanted to know who was/is the greatest entertainer.


Sammy Davis Jr.
The Beatles
Michael Jackson
James Brown
The Rolling Stones
Madonna

If the question is based on selecting someone with a proven set of entertainment skills (more than one), and can show undeniable proof of those skills, then there's one obvious choice for me.

If this is just a popularity contest, then I guess anyone could qualify.


1. Singer





2. Dancer





3. Actor (stage & screen)



4. Impressions




5. Musician





Sammy Davis Jr....



...Mr. Entertainment




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I assumed we were asked about the "greatest entertainer" in a strictly musical sense, but you've got a good argument for Sammy as the over-all greatest entertainer. hmmm
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Reply #43 posted 12/26/09 8:42pm

purplesweat

Paris9748430 said:

purplesweat said:

Who has the biggest global fan base?

Michael. cool

Prince shouldn't be on there considering he hasn't had a significant album release since SOTT. Michael was still selling out stadiums after a ten year hiatus.



Being that Prince's last 4 albums debuted in the top 3, including his 1st ever debut at #1.

I'd say he's had a significant album release since SOTT

The last big tour he held was the top grossing tour of that year.

He's won 3 Grammys since '04.

A Golden Globe.

His 21 Night stay in London is a record that won't be broken by anybody..

So please, 20+ years ago wasn't the last time Prince was relevant by a long shot.


General public doesn't have a clue about any of that. Most think he's a washed up freak touring the same album over and over.

And his stance against youtube and putting his music out there does nothing to deter that misconception.
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Reply #44 posted 12/26/09 8:44pm

purplesweat

murph said:

purplesweat said:

Who has the biggest global fan base?

Michael. cool

Prince shouldn't be on there considering he hasn't had a significant album release since SOTT. Michael was still selling out stadiums after a ten year hiatus.


Uh huh....Now you're are just making shit up....lol


...?

I love when I state COLD HARD FACTS and people reply with "pigs may fly". It's common knowledge all 50 shows were completely sold out.

Oh, and it's "you're" not "you're are".
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Reply #45 posted 12/26/09 9:20pm

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I asked someone in his 60s this question the other day, and I just KNEW he would say Sammy Davis Jr., but he said it's Michael! eek I was shocked since he's a longtime fan of Sammy, and usually teased me growing up by saying Michael is "not that great." lol Plus, I figured Sammy was the greatest since he mastered all mediums of entertainment (music, dance, instrumentation, movies, TV shows, comedy, live performances, etc). But he explained that while Sammy was the most eclectic performer, he was always an "old" image and persona, even during his early years, and never attained massive popularity around the world like Michael.
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Reply #46 posted 12/26/09 9:38pm

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Out of this list I'll go with James Brown then MJ. To me James Brown defined entertainment. He just had it all from his off the wall stage persona to his high energy dancing. MJ for his visually appealing shows.

confuse at the Beatles and Madonna even being throwin in the mix.

Anyways, Janet and Prince shits all over this list

That's all.
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Reply #47 posted 12/26/09 10:14pm

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WaterInYourBath said:

I asked someone in his 60s this question the other day, and I just KNEW he would say Sammy Davis Jr., but he said it's Michael! eek I was shocked since he's a longtime fan of Sammy, and usually teased me growing up by saying Michael is "not that great." lol Plus, I figured Sammy was the greatest since he mastered all mediums of entertainment (music, dance, instrumentation, movies, TV shows, comedy, live performances, etc). But he explained that while Sammy was the most eclectic performer, he was always an "old" image and persona, even during his early years, and never attained massive popularity around the world like Michael.


Exactly why I said Michael.

None of the others listed are STILL influencing music, fashion, style, production, dance the way he is. No one was recreating any of the others albums the way Thriller was a few years ago (Thriller 25). No one doubts that the others are pure legends, it's just that Michael's legend was, and is, still going.
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Reply #48 posted 12/26/09 10:21pm

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MADONNA!
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Reply #49 posted 12/26/09 10:51pm

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MADONNA!


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Reply #50 posted 12/27/09 12:46am

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Sammy Davis Jr opened the door for everybody else on that fucking list especially for Michael Jackson which is something that clearly escaped Al Sharpton's keen wit. rolleyes And WTF, I don't see Prince's name on that list!!! fit
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Reply #51 posted 12/27/09 2:04am

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purplesweat said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I asked someone in his 60s this question the other day, and I just KNEW he would say Sammy Davis Jr., but he said it's Michael! eek I was shocked since he's a longtime fan of Sammy, and usually teased me growing up by saying Michael is "not that great." lol Plus, I figured Sammy was the greatest since he mastered all mediums of entertainment (music, dance, instrumentation, movies, TV shows, comedy, live performances, etc). But he explained that while Sammy was the most eclectic performer, he was always an "old" image and persona, even during his early years, and never attained massive popularity around the world like Michael.


Exactly why I said Michael.

None of the others listed are STILL influencing music, fashion, style, production, dance the way he is. No one was recreating any of the others albums the way Thriller was a few years ago (Thriller 25). No one doubts that the others are pure legends, it's just that Michael's legend was, and is, still going.

But that kind of stuff hasnt really got anything to do with whos the best entertainer. I think its based on performance, ability and talent, not influence. I mean Madonnas more influential then alot of other better entertainers out there. But even based on them (performance, ability and talent) I think Michael wins.

I just think of it like this, seeing it seems to be a tie between Sammy and Michael: Could Michael do the things Sammy does? Yes, he just didnt like to do that kind of stuff and he stuck to a mold later in his career, but The Jacksons Variety Show really shows what range he had. But does anyone honestly think Sammy could pull off the kind of performance Michael did on the Victory and Bad tours? Or anybody, not just Sammy.
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Reply #52 posted 12/27/09 2:23am

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this is an easy question, sammy davis jr is the greatist entertainer ever. micheal jackson is no match for sammmy. none of these people on this poll acheived what sammy did.
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Reply #53 posted 12/27/09 2:48am

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purplesweat said:



Exactly why I said Michael.

None of the others listed are STILL influencing music, fashion, style, production, dance the way he is. No one was recreating any of the others albums the way Thriller was a few years ago (Thriller 25). No one doubts that the others are pure legends, it's just that Michael's legend was, and is, still going.

But that kind of stuff hasnt really got anything to do with whos the best entertainer. I think its based on performance, ability and talent, not influence. I mean Madonnas more influential then alot of other better entertainers out there. But even based on them (performance, ability and talent) I think Michael wins.

I just think of it like this, seeing it seems to be a tie between Sammy and Michael: Could Michael do the things Sammy does? Yes, he just didnt like to do that kind of stuff and he stuck to a mold later in his career, but The Jacksons Variety Show really shows what range he had. But does anyone honestly think Sammy could pull off the kind of performance Michael did on the Victory and Bad tours? Or anybody, not just Sammy.
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I actually don't think Madonna has been truly influential for a long, long time now. I think she's simply riding her past huge success and letting others influence her.

There always seems to be some kind of mental block when it comes to highly praising modern artists. We seem to think cuz they're recent or whatever, they can't possibly be a legend. I have a feeling in ten years or so, we'll wonder why Michael wasn't given every damn award, accolade and acclaim he rightly deserved.
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Reply #54 posted 12/27/09 2:49am

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Uh huh....Now you're are just making shit up....lol



She wasn't even born when Sign O' the Times came out. So try not to take her too seriously.


rolleyes Yes, how could a young person possibly know anything about the past?
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Reply #55 posted 12/27/09 3:12am

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Arnotts said:


But that kind of stuff hasnt really got anything to do with whos the best entertainer. I think its based on performance, ability and talent, not influence. I mean Madonnas more influential then alot of other better entertainers out there. But even based on them (performance, ability and talent) I think Michael wins.

I just think of it like this, seeing it seems to be a tie between Sammy and Michael: Could Michael do the things Sammy does? Yes, he just didnt like to do that kind of stuff and he stuck to a mold later in his career, but The Jacksons Variety Show really shows what range he had. But does anyone honestly think Sammy could pull off the kind of performance Michael did on the Victory and Bad tours? Or anybody, not just Sammy.
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I actually don't think Madonna has been truly influential for a long, long time now. I think she's simply riding her past huge success and letting others influence her.

There always seems to be some kind of mental block when it comes to highly praising modern artists. We seem to think cuz they're recent or whatever, they can't possibly be a legend. I have a feeling in ten years or so, we'll wonder why Michael wasn't given every damn award, accolade and acclaim he rightly deserved.

I definitely agree with that. But alot of young people still use her early career as a staple of what they’d like to achieve in the business, so I guess that’s how I meant influence.

Also with your last statement I think a bit of that has to do with people forgetting how great Michael was due to the fact that he didn’t really do much in the last 10 years. Not to mention all his BEST work is the rarer stuff like the Jacksons Variety Show and the unreleased Bad and Victory footage that most people have never seen. And the stuff he did do recently was sort of mediocre (for Michaels standards) which was a result of so many different problems (the allegations, drug abuse in Invincible era, etc.) I really think though, judging by This Is It, that he was truly coming back and would have been as big as he was in the History era.
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Reply #56 posted 12/27/09 3:20am

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purplesweat said:



I actually don't think Madonna has been truly influential for a long, long time now. I think she's simply riding her past huge success and letting others influence her.

There always seems to be some kind of mental block when it comes to highly praising modern artists. We seem to think cuz they're recent or whatever, they can't possibly be a legend. I have a feeling in ten years or so, we'll wonder why Michael wasn't given every damn award, accolade and acclaim he rightly deserved.

I definitely agree with that. But alot of young people still use her early career as a staple of what they’d like to achieve in the business, so I guess that’s how I meant influence.

Also with your last statement I think a bit of that has to do with people forgetting how great Michael was due to the fact that he didn’t really do much in the last 10 years. Not to mention all his BEST work is the rarer stuff like the Jacksons Variety Show and the unreleased Bad and Victory footage that most people have never seen. And the stuff he did do recently was sort of mediocre (for Michaels standards) which was a result of so many different problems (the allegations, drug abuse in Invincible era, etc.) I really think though, judging by This Is It, that he was truly coming back and would have been as big as he was in the History era.


Yeah, I totally agree with everything here.

I think Michael's slightly faded legacy only came from everything else eclipsing it AND a hiatus.

People were definitely beginning to miss him this year and last year though.

Such a shame sad
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Reply #57 posted 12/27/09 3:52am

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purplesweat said:

Paris9748430 said:




She wasn't even born when Sign O' the Times came out. So try not to take her too seriously.


rolleyes Yes, how could a young person possibly know anything about the past?

I know, right? lol Those of us who actually study and know this history should receive a little more credit, LOL.
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Reply #58 posted 12/27/09 3:25pm

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Sammy Davis, Jr. HANDS DOWN.

P.S. I'm young too, but I know my history, dammit. hammer
I took one look at that list and there is absolutely no competition what so ever to compare up against Sammy Davis, Jr.
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Reply #59 posted 12/27/09 4:42pm

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you're poll is cute. hug


but here are the facts. hmph!


MADONNA
the single greatest performer EVER was or will be!
...next to the creator that is the universe. of course.




next in the lis would be...
Michael Jackson
The Rolling Stones
James Brown
Sammy Davis Jr.


don't hate folks! hmph!



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