Timmy84 said:

Yeah, especially Mobb Deep, those muthafuckas was demonic and mad as hell!!!!!

True.....but these days everything is even darker and more pessimistic, IMO.

KoolEaze said:

Yeah, you have a point there but its darker and psseimistic for different reasons than it was in the 90s.
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Diddy always calling Biggie the greatest rapper ever. I wonder what the game would be like if he were around today. Would he have survived it? Assimilated into Weezy/JayZ dom?

KoolEaze said:

There's a difference though..

90s darkness came from sincerity and frustration.

00s darkness came from lack of of sincerity and frustration

Harlepolis said:

scriptgirl said:

Rakim

DesireeNevermind said:

I think he would still be on top and bash the shit out of those crappy ass rappers we have today, especially dick rider Jay-z. Diddy was also on Biggie's dick also back in the day.
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DesireeNevermind said:

He would've filed for bankruptcy and fell between the cracks like the rest of Puff Daddy's signed artists,,,,,in short, Diddy would have been the beneficiary just the same(like he is now).

TonyVanDam said:

Co-sign

DesireeNevermind said:

For anything, Jay-Z would have been forced to play second-in-command next to Biggie. Believe me, Jay-Z was Biggie's biggest fan.

Harlepolis said:

you aint lyin. Mark Curry sho nuff felt that way.

TonyVanDam said:

As I said before Jay-z was such a dickrider its not even funny.

"How many of Biggie's rhymes are gonna come out your fat lips?"

-Nas (Ether)

NastradumasKid said:

x 1,000

DesireeNevermind said:

Shit, its true!!!!!

DesireeNevermind said:

There's a BIG reason why Mark Curry's book is getting the "hush hush" deal the man opened alot of cans of dung beetles and scoprios

You think that shit was something? Wait till Shyne get released and moved to his country,,,,,you'll see alot of mofos running for cover.
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My all time favorite rapper is Rakim. Biggie was my version of CNN's, Wolf Blitzer. He had a way of talking about about the hood, that put you there. I think the thing that separated him and Pac, were the beats that they used to tell their stories. Pac's beats were more laid back to suit his laid back delivery. While Biggie, had this in your face, down your throat way of rhyming. His beats helped him with that.

NastradumasKid said:

That´s true.

shorttrini said:

But 2pac was a far more prolific songwriter than Biggie. So much that 2pac did a Prince-inspired idea of having his own vault of tracks.

TonyVanDam said:

Pac was distrustful of his labels,,,,,unlike Biggie who signed his life away to Puffy.

TonyVanDam said:

Yup, Pac still releases new material almost 15 years after his death.

shorttrini said:

Biggie always reminded me of Chubb Rock for some reason!!

Harlepolis said:

Despite that he co-existed with Suge Knight very well, 2pac NEVER wanted The Outlawz to sign artist contracts with Death Row Records. Around this time before he was killed, it was very obvious that 2pac knew his "allies" couldn't be trust neither, never mind his enemies.

TonyVanDam said:

When you're around someone like Suge Knight, you really think you gonna find some comfort and trust from that so called "ally"?

Harlepolis said:

Just because he has stuff saved in the vaults, does not make all of that material good. When I hear the term "prolific", artist like Marvin or John Lennon. These were artist that were able to create imagines with their songs. I would place Biggie in this category. Just because Pac had stuff in the vault, does not make him prolific.

shorttrini said:

It just means he has more music than Biggie, which really isn't a big deal because I've heard his songs that were released after his death and most of it is pretty lackluster at best.

NastradumasKid said:

Hell no! I wouldn't trust Suge Knight, Sean Combs, Baby The Birdman, 50 Cent, or any of these would be hip-hop label CEOs. And I sure as hell wouldn't want to be part of Jay-Z's unholy alliance called Roc Nation, no matter how bad I needed the money.

shorttrini said:

Granted, some of 2pac's unreleased tracks are hit and miss. But tracks that were release after his death such as Killuminati, Nothing To Loses, & Changes are still pretty good.

TonyVanDam said:

Diddy is nothing more than a greedy, selfish business man, well so is everyone you just named, but him in particular is known for fucking people up. Look what happened to Loon. Or whatever happened to all those people who was on his Making the Band show, where the fuck is their record deal? What the hell have they been doing the ever since then? Diddy just wants money and nothing more, I doubt that he really cares about quality music, just $$$$
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