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Reply #510 posted 11/28/09 12:07pm

WetDream

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cdcgold said:

angel345 said:

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She sure wasn't nod


priscilla is one jealous B.
54 seconds is priceless someone should make a gif out of it.


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and why is she never gets flack for messing her face up, she probably had as much surgery as mj
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That was priceless indeed, loved it!
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Reply #511 posted 11/28/09 2:38pm

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This Week's Sales.
This Is It - 241,000
Thriller - 36,000
No1's - 38,000
Essential - 30,000
Bad - 28,500
King Of Pop - 26,000
Dangerous - 25,000
Off The Wall - 24,500
Invincible - 17,500
History - 15,500
Motown Yrs - 10,000
J5 - Ultimate - 9,500

Total This week 501,500
Total since June 2009 - [b]20,022,000[/b]

Amazing! Only Michael. This should be on the news.
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Reply #512 posted 11/28/09 3:13pm

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WetDream said:

bboy87 said:

Scorpeze from Windimoto about the artistic merit of Thriller




Most of this is quite inaccurate and also, clashes with my opinions...so obviously im gonna talk!

and as for that hilarious Prince mention, I'm yours, Bambi, Why U Wanna Treat Me So Bad, Little Red Corvette anyone? All done alone and before the cheesy but crossover POP record with a Halan solo, Beat It.

I mean 1979's Bambi.....a young black man doing an actual hardcore ROCK song alone, years prior. Only difference was the exposure....but, then there's Little Red Corvette.

I would say a lot of this piece is wishful thinking.
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[Edited 11/28/09 13:46pm]

I think aside from the Prince mention, the piece is pretty accurate.
[Edited 11/28/09 15:14pm]
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Reply #513 posted 11/28/09 3:44pm

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I was going to post about the Prince part....that writer is way off base there.

Prince is the one that brokw down those barriers between R&B and Rock, a long time before "Beat It" and deserves the credit for it, for sure.

The article is cute. I understand what he's trying to, and yes, Michael deserves more credit than he gets, but not as much as the article gives him.

The fact is that those records were created by a team of the most talented people in the world. It's one thing to have a musical vision but entirely another to pull it off flawlessly. I mean, let's be real, you've got:

Michael - an INCREDIBLY talented vocalist and competent songwriter.

Quincy Jones - one of the greatest producers of all time.

Bruce Swedien - Genius audio engineer and mixer with an untouchable track record

Rod Temperton, Steve Porcaro, Stevie Wonder, Siedah Garrett, Tom Bahler, Paul McCartney, James Ingram - all incredibly talented songwriters who contributed to OTW, Thriller, Bad.

Greg Phillinganes, Louis Johnson, Jerry Hey & The Seawind Horns, Paulinho Da Costa, Wah Wah Watson.....the musicians that actually played on these albums are like a who's who of some of the baddest motherfuckas to ever touch their respective instruments. Put players like these with a producer like Quincy and you've got = instant win.

Regarding those demos, it doesn't really matter if it was Michael that came out with the great melodies, those songs are not hit songs on their own. They are demos. The musicianship is sloppy, the vocals are unfocused, they aren't produced or mixed to anywhere near a professional degree - they are like moulds of clay that kind of resemble something good.

These songs need killer production, killer production and killer mixes to be hits.

I can write songs as good as the Thriller demos at home in my home studio. I'm a good vocalist, a fairly competent producer, and a fairly competent audio engineer.

But it's when I take those demos to my cousins professional studio (my cousin is a multiplatinum award winning songwriter, producer and mixing engineer), and bring in some of the best musicians I know to play on them, that the songs REALLY come to life. You simply cannot underestimate the roles of the songwriters, producers, musicians and engineers in the music industry.

It's unfair for people to try and diminish the things that MJ brought to the table. But it's also unrealistic to think he is the only, or even the main, factor in the success of those records.
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Reply #514 posted 11/28/09 4:12pm

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I just bought this awesome book on MJ that Rolling Stone put together,
called "Michael." It was released on November 3rd.

It covers every period of his life, with in-depth interviews from the
people who worked on every album. My personal favorite interview (so far)
is the one with Rodney Jerkins, and how he talks about how he stayed up
until all hours of the night, for days, going through Twilight Zone samples
for the song "Threatened" and when he would hear any lyric Rod narrated that
could be used in a rap, he would log it into ProTools. How cool! Yeah, FYI,
that album or "widget" as some punks referred to it at one point, needs much
appreciation than it got back in 2001. Rodney also talks about how MJ called
him and told him not to worry that INVINCIBLE didn't sell 100 million copies,
because he felt like one day people would understand/get the album. I loved
reading that. MJ really had matured in his later years, as far as his "commercial only" viewpoint from the Thriller and Bad eras.

Here is a link to this simply amazing book:

http://www.amazon.com/Mic...484&sr=8-2


One random final thought:

"This is it. Here I stand. I'm the light of the world. I feel grand."

I can't but think MJ is looking down on all of us,
and I hope he realizes what he meant to those who
loved him, admired him, and appreciated him and his art.

Not those people who gave him hell during his lifetime,
then on June 25th, ran out and bought "Number Ones" and
showing up the next day at work or school
talking about, "I love me some MJ!" Shudup liar!
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Reply #515 posted 11/28/09 4:19pm

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Did yal see this before?


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Reply #516 posted 11/28/09 4:31pm

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Vanilli said:

I just bought this awesome book on MJ that Rolling Stone put together,
called "Michael." It was released on November 3rd.

It covers every period of his life, with in-depth interviews from the
people who worked on every album. My personal favorite interview (so far)
is the one with Rodney Jerkins, and how he talks about how he stayed up
until all hours of the night, for days, going through Twilight Zone samples
for the song "Threatened" and when he would hear any lyric Rod narrated that
could be used in a rap, he would log it into ProTools. How cool! Yeah, FYI,
that album or "widget" as some punks referred to it at one point, needs much
appreciation than it got back in 2001. Rodney also talks about how MJ called
him and told him not to worry that INVINCIBLE didn't sell 100 million copies,
because he felt like one day people would understand/get the album. I loved
reading that. MJ really had matured in his later years, as far as his "commercial only" viewpoint from the Thriller and Bad eras.

Here is a link to this simply amazing book:

http://www.amazon.com/Mic...484&sr=8-2


One random final thought:

"This is it. Here I stand. I'm the light of the world. I feel grand."

I can't but think MJ is looking down on all of us,
and I hope he realizes what he meant to those who
loved him, admired him, and appreciated him and his art.

Not those people who gave him hell during his lifetime,
then on June 25th, ran out and bought "Number Ones" and
showing up the next day at work or school
talking about, "I love me some MJ!" Shudup liar!

I was considering buying this book but many fans are boycotting it because of rolling stone's past treatment of Michael. But with your description, I'm reconsidering. Is there any negativity at all about Mike?
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Reply #517 posted 11/28/09 4:44pm

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No one's, NO ONE's more two-faced than Oprah Gail Winfrey.

agreed
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Reply #518 posted 11/28/09 5:14pm

Vanilli

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mrsnet said:


I was considering buying this book but many fans are boycotting it because of rolling stone's past treatment of Michael. But with your description, I'm reconsidering. Is there any negativity at all about Mike?
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I will let you know when I'm all the way through it. I started out by skimming it over, read a few pages from the eras/albums that are my favorites and or the most recent stuff and every chapter features (thus far) features interviews with people who knew him well and wouldn't put him down. An interview with Slash in the book was amazing just because he talks about the madness that goes into making a Michael Jackson record and how one producer would be in one studio working on something "FOR THE MICHAEL JACKSON RECORD" and MJ would be in some other studio across the country working with another producer on something "FOR THE MICHAEL JACKSON RECORD" and Slash would show up to put down some guitar parts and the producer would look at him and be like, "Slash, I didn't know you were going to be on this song." lol I love reading little stories like that, more than anything, because it gives you a tiny glimpse into what MJ's world was really like when he was recording some of the music that is a part of the soundtrack to many of our lives.
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Reply #519 posted 11/28/09 5:41pm

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Did yal see this before?




I remember seeing pictures of her in the first edition of MJ: Magic & The Madness. Figured it wouldn't be long before she would be calling up the media.
Joe Jackson genes for sure. lol
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Reply #520 posted 11/28/09 5:43pm

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WetDream said:[quote]cdcgold said:[quote]

priscilla is one jealous B.
54 seconds is priceless someone should make a gif out of it.


[Edited 11/27/09 21:05pm]

I love seeing MJ able (back then) to go out and enjoy himself, and in Lisa's company. I always wished Mike and Lisa would have worked out. She seemed good for him. Sad how that all worked out. I wish Priscilla would have just put a sock in it with regard to her stupid views on Michael. Or wait wait..I wish Priscilla would have put one of Elvis' blue suede shows in it. lol Cheesy pun intended.
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[Edited 11/28/09 17:46pm]
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Reply #521 posted 11/28/09 5:58pm

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Militant said:

I was going to post about the Prince part....that writer is way off base there.

Prince is the one that brokw down those barriers between R&B and Rock, a long time before "Beat It" and deserves the credit for it, for sure.

The article is cute. I understand what he's trying to, and yes, Michael deserves more credit than he gets, but not as much as the article gives him.

The fact is that those records were created by a team of the most talented people in the world. It's one thing to have a musical vision but entirely another to pull it off flawlessly. I mean, let's be real, you've got:

Michael - an INCREDIBLY talented vocalist and competent songwriter.

Quincy Jones - one of the greatest producers of all time.

Bruce Swedien - Genius audio engineer and mixer with an untouchable track record

Rod Temperton, Steve Porcaro, Stevie Wonder, Siedah Garrett, Tom Bahler, Paul McCartney, James Ingram - all incredibly talented songwriters who contributed to OTW, Thriller, Bad.

Greg Phillinganes, Louis Johnson, Jerry Hey & The Seawind Horns, Paulinho Da Costa, Wah Wah Watson.....the musicians that actually played on these albums are like a who's who of some of the baddest motherfuckas to ever touch their respective instruments. Put players like these with a producer like Quincy and you've got = instant win.

Regarding those demos, it doesn't really matter if it was Michael that came out with the great melodies, those songs are not hit songs on their own. They are demos. The musicianship is sloppy, the vocals are unfocused, they aren't produced or mixed to anywhere near a professional degree - they are like moulds of clay that kind of resemble something good.

These songs need killer production, killer production and killer mixes to be hits.

I can write songs as good as the Thriller demos at home in my home studio. I'm a good vocalist, a fairly competent producer, and a fairly competent audio engineer.

But it's when I take those demos to my cousins professional studio (my cousin is a multiplatinum award winning songwriter, producer and mixing engineer), and bring in some of the best musicians I know to play on them, that the songs REALLY come to life. You simply cannot underestimate the roles of the songwriters, producers, musicians and engineers in the music industry.

It's unfair for people to try and diminish the things that MJ brought to the table. But it's also unrealistic to think he is the only, or even the main, factor in the success of those records.


I don't think that's the intent of the article to some extent. Scorpeze is saying that with the songs that Michael wrote for the album (Wanna Be Startin' Somethin', The Girl Is Mine, Beat It, Billie Jean), the foundation, the concepts, the vision was there. They weren't just him singing songs Quincy and Rod handed to him to sing.

In regards to the demo of The Girl Is Mine, it's basically the finished song (Done at Allen Zentz Studio).

You're absolutely right, It took the role of great songwriters:
Rod Temperton (Thriller, Baby Be Mine, The Lady In My Life)
Michael Jackson (Wanna Be Startin' Somethin', The Girl Is Mine, Beat It, Billie Jean)
James Ingram (PYT)
Steve Porcaro and John Bettis (Human Nature)
the legendary Bruce Swedien

and the work of musicians of like Greg Philliganes, Steve Lukather, Jerry Hey, Michael Boddicker, and many others that helped pull the album off

But the vision of Michael and Quincy was, in my opinion, the star of the show


I hope I don't seem like I'm rambling lol
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Reply #522 posted 11/28/09 6:07pm

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http://www.express.co.uk/...s-paid-off

MICHAEL JACKSON'S DEBT IS PAID OFF


This Is It has raised over £150m for the Jackson estate
Sunday November 29,2009

By Mike Parker
THE debts that plunged Michael Jackson’s life into turmoil have been cleared, barely five months after his death.
Music royalties and box-office takings for the film This Is It have brought in almost half-a-billion dollars to the King of Pop’s estate.
The phenomenal flow of cash, which does not include income from Jackson souvenirs and memorabilia, more than covers the estimated £250million he owed. Administrators John Branca and John McClain still face at least six lawsuits, originally filed against the singer but now transferred to his estate.

These include a £180million action by New Jersey based company AllGood Entertainment that claims Jackson reneged on a planned pay-per-view TV reunion concert with his brothers in Texas.

Hollywood director John Landis, who made the singer’s 1983 Thriller video, is also suing for an undisclosed sum over alleged non- payment of his share of the profits.

A spokesman for the administrators said yesterday: “Our attorneys are in negotiations with various parties on a number of unresolved issues. We expect these to be amicably resolved by early in the New Year.”
Even hefty out-of-court settlements and legal fees won’t make much of a dent in Jackson’s posthumous fortune and future earning potential, according to financial experts.

Jackson was already No3 on Forbes Magazine’s annual list of highest- grossing dead celebrities, behind fashion icon Yves St Laurent and composers Rodgers & Hammerstein, before This Is It was released last month. By yesterday, the film had raked in almost $240million worldwide, according to online monitor Box Office Mojo, with eventual income from DVD sales expected to double that. Sales of the spin-off double CD, which has made the top 10 in more than 120 countries, as well as re-releases of Jackson’s classic albums, are “conservatively” expected to top £180million by Christmas, according to Sony Music.

Forbes senior editor Matthew Miller believes the Jackson phenomenon will continue to dominate the magazine’s dead celebrity chart for years to come. His posthumous earnings already dwarf those of Elvis Presley, whose estate made only £34 in the current financial year. Mr Miller said: “In life, Michael sank into uncontroll­able debt, raising enormous loans to pay for other ones he couldn’t afford. He was, basically, a multi-millionaire living a billionaire lifestyle.”
Now, in an ironic twist, financial experts predict Jackson’s estate could be as much as a billion dollars in profit by the end of next year, with plans to launch as many as six new CDs.
The cash bonanza removes any financial uncertainty there may have been over the future of the singer’s three children, Prince Michael, 12, Paris, 11, and seven-year-old Prince Michael II.
Mr Miller said: “If they chose, none of them would have to work a single day in their lives.”
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #523 posted 11/28/09 6:11pm

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bboy87 said:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/143029/Michael-Jackson-s-debt-is-paid-off

MICHAEL JACKSON'S DEBT IS PAID OFF


This Is It has raised over £150m for the Jackson estate
Sunday November 29,2009

By Mike Parker
THE debts that plunged Michael Jackson’s life into turmoil have been cleared, barely five months after his death.
Music royalties and box-office takings for the film This Is It have brought in almost half-a-billion dollars to the King of Pop’s estate.
The phenomenal flow of cash, which does not include income from Jackson souvenirs and memorabilia, more than covers the estimated £250million he owed. Administrators John Branca and John McClain still face at least six lawsuits, originally filed against the singer but now transferred to his estate.

These include a £180million action by New Jersey based company AllGood Entertainment that claims Jackson reneged on a planned pay-per-view TV reunion concert with his brothers in Texas.

Hollywood director John Landis, who made the singer’s 1983 Thriller video, is also suing for an undisclosed sum over alleged non- payment of his share of the profits.

A spokesman for the administrators said yesterday: “Our attorneys are in negotiations with various parties on a number of unresolved issues. We expect these to be amicably resolved by early in the New Year.”
Even hefty out-of-court settlements and legal fees won’t make much of a dent in Jackson’s posthumous fortune and future earning potential, according to financial experts.

Jackson was already No3 on Forbes Magazine’s annual list of highest- grossing dead celebrities, behind fashion icon Yves St Laurent and composers Rodgers & Hammerstein, before This Is It was released last month. By yesterday, the film had raked in almost $240million worldwide, according to online monitor Box Office Mojo, with eventual income from DVD sales expected to double that. Sales of the spin-off double CD, which has made the top 10 in more than 120 countries, as well as re-releases of Jackson’s classic albums, are “conservatively” expected to top £180million by Christmas, according to Sony Music.

Forbes senior editor Matthew Miller believes the Jackson phenomenon will continue to dominate the magazine’s dead celebrity chart for years to come. His posthumous earnings already dwarf those of Elvis Presley, whose estate made only £34 in the current financial year. Mr Miller said: “In life, Michael sank into uncontroll­able debt, raising enormous loans to pay for other ones he couldn’t afford. He was, basically, a multi-millionaire living a billionaire lifestyle.”
Now, in an ironic twist, financial experts predict Jackson’s estate could be as much as a billion dollars in profit by the end of next year, with plans to launch as many as six new CDs.
The cash bonanza removes any financial uncertainty there may have been over the future of the singer’s three children, Prince Michael, 12, Paris, 11, and seven-year-old Prince Michael II.
Mr Miller said: “If they chose, none of them would have to work a single day in their lives.”


GOOD!
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Reply #524 posted 11/28/09 6:14pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/143029/Michael-Jackson-s-debt-is-paid-off

MICHAEL JACKSON'S DEBT IS PAID OFF


This Is It has raised over £150m for the Jackson estate
Sunday November 29,2009

By Mike Parker
THE debts that plunged Michael Jackson’s life into turmoil have been cleared, barely five months after his death.
Music royalties and box-office takings for the film This Is It have brought in almost half-a-billion dollars to the King of Pop’s estate.
The phenomenal flow of cash, which does not include income from Jackson souvenirs and memorabilia, more than covers the estimated £250million he owed. Administrators John Branca and John McClain still face at least six lawsuits, originally filed against the singer but now transferred to his estate.

These include a £180million action by New Jersey based company AllGood Entertainment that claims Jackson reneged on a planned pay-per-view TV reunion concert with his brothers in Texas.

Hollywood director John Landis, who made the singer’s 1983 Thriller video, is also suing for an undisclosed sum over alleged non- payment of his share of the profits.

A spokesman for the administrators said yesterday: “Our attorneys are in negotiations with various parties on a number of unresolved issues. We expect these to be amicably resolved by early in the New Year.”
Even hefty out-of-court settlements and legal fees won’t make much of a dent in Jackson’s posthumous fortune and future earning potential, according to financial experts.

Jackson was already No3 on Forbes Magazine’s annual list of highest- grossing dead celebrities, behind fashion icon Yves St Laurent and composers Rodgers & Hammerstein, before This Is It was released last month. By yesterday, the film had raked in almost $240million worldwide, according to online monitor Box Office Mojo, with eventual income from DVD sales expected to double that. Sales of the spin-off double CD, which has made the top 10 in more than 120 countries, as well as re-releases of Jackson’s classic albums, are “conservatively” expected to top £180million by Christmas, according to Sony Music.

Forbes senior editor Matthew Miller believes the Jackson phenomenon will continue to dominate the magazine’s dead celebrity chart for years to come. His posthumous earnings already dwarf those of Elvis Presley, whose estate made only £34 in the current financial year. Mr Miller said: “In life, Michael sank into uncontroll­able debt, raising enormous loans to pay for other ones he couldn’t afford. He was, basically, a multi-millionaire living a billionaire lifestyle.”
Now, in an ironic twist, financial experts predict Jackson’s estate could be as much as a billion dollars in profit by the end of next year, with plans to launch as many as six new CDs.
The cash bonanza removes any financial uncertainty there may have been over the future of the singer’s three children, Prince Michael, 12, Paris, 11, and seven-year-old Prince Michael II.
Mr Miller said: “If they chose, none of them would have to work a single day in their lives.”


GOOD!



AllGood Entertainment changed their lawsuit from $160mil to $400mil neutral
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #525 posted 11/28/09 6:16pm

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bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



GOOD!



AllGood Entertainment changed their lawsuit from $160mil to $400mil neutral


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Reply #526 posted 11/28/09 6:52pm

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bboy87 said:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/143029/Michael-Jackson-s-debt-is-paid-off

MICHAEL JACKSON'S DEBT IS PAID OFF


This Is It has raised over £150m for the Jackson estate
Sunday November 29,2009

By Mike Parker
THE debts that plunged Michael Jackson’s life into turmoil have been cleared, barely five months after his death.
Music royalties and box-office takings for the film This Is It have brought in almost half-a-billion dollars to the King of Pop’s estate.
The phenomenal flow of cash, which does not include income from Jackson souvenirs and memorabilia, more than covers the estimated £250million he owed. Administrators John Branca and John McClain still face at least six lawsuits, originally filed against the singer but now transferred to his estate.

These include a £180million action by New Jersey based company AllGood Entertainment that claims Jackson reneged on a planned pay-per-view TV reunion concert with his brothers in Texas.

Hollywood director John Landis, who made the singer’s 1983 Thriller video, is also suing for an undisclosed sum over alleged non- payment of his share of the profits.

A spokesman for the administrators said yesterday: “Our attorneys are in negotiations with various parties on a number of unresolved issues. We expect these to be amicably resolved by early in the New Year.”
Even hefty out-of-court settlements and legal fees won’t make much of a dent in Jackson’s posthumous fortune and future earning potential, according to financial experts.

Jackson was already No3 on Forbes Magazine’s annual list of highest- grossing dead celebrities, behind fashion icon Yves St Laurent and composers Rodgers & Hammerstein, before This Is It was released last month. By yesterday, the film had raked in almost $240million worldwide, according to online monitor Box Office Mojo, with eventual income from DVD sales expected to double that. Sales of the spin-off double CD, which has made the top 10 in more than 120 countries, as well as re-releases of Jackson’s classic albums, are “conservatively” expected to top £180million by Christmas, according to Sony Music.

Forbes senior editor Matthew Miller believes the Jackson phenomenon will continue to dominate the magazine’s dead celebrity chart for years to come. His posthumous earnings already dwarf those of Elvis Presley, whose estate made only £34 in the current financial year. Mr Miller said: “In life, Michael sank into uncontroll­able debt, raising enormous loans to pay for other ones he couldn’t afford. He was, basically, a multi-millionaire living a billionaire lifestyle.”
Now, in an ironic twist, financial experts predict Jackson’s estate could be as much as a billion dollars in profit by the end of next year, with plans to launch as many as six new CDs.
The cash bonanza removes any financial uncertainty there may have been over the future of the singer’s three children, Prince Michael, 12, Paris, 11, and seven-year-old Prince Michael II.
Mr Miller said: “If they chose, none of them would have to work a single day in their lives.”

Damn he had to die for it to get paid off neutral
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Reply #527 posted 11/28/09 7:28pm

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babybugz said:[quote]

bboy87 said:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/143029/Michael-Jackson-s-debt-is-paid-off

MICHAEL JACKSON'S DEBT IS PAID OFF



Damn he had to die for it to get paid off neutral


Wouldn't the tour have paid off his debts too?
Lay back in my tenderness... Stay with me... Don't you go nowhere...
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Reply #528 posted 11/28/09 7:35pm

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ItsAllForLOVE said:[quote]

babybugz said:

bboy87 said:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/143029/Michael-Jackson-s-debt-is-paid-off

MICHAEL JACKSON'S DEBT IS PAID OFF



Damn he had to die for it to get paid off neutral


Wouldn't the tour have paid off his debts too?

I believe it would but not like this but we will never know , good it's paid off though
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Reply #529 posted 11/28/09 7:39pm

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babybugz said:

ItsAllForLOVE said:



Wouldn't the tour have paid off his debts too?

I believe it would but not like this but we will never know , good it's paid off though


Probably but remember the new pad he was thinking of getting. More debt would have followed him but it didn't matter..he was Michael Jackson. He got everything he wanted..for better or worse, except of course a loving father, normal childhood and tons of love for him as a person, instead he was loved as an "artist." All the fame in the world, and all the money in the world can't buy L.O.V.E.! How sad! sad
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Reply #530 posted 11/28/09 7:41pm

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Vanilli said:

babybugz said:


I believe it would but not like this but we will never know , good it's paid off though


Probably but remember the new pad he was thinking of getting. More debt would have followed him but it didn't matter..he was Michael Jackson. He got everything he wanted..for better or worse, except of course a loving father, normal childhood and tons of love for him as a person, instead he was loved as an "artist." All the fame in the world, and all the money in the world can't buy L.O.V.E.! How sad! sad

Yeah , at least his kids will get the moolah smile lol
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Reply #531 posted 11/28/09 7:43pm

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babybugz said:

Vanilli said:



Probably but remember the new pad he was thinking of getting. More debt would have followed him but it didn't matter..he was Michael Jackson. He got everything he wanted..for better or worse, except of course a loving father, normal childhood and tons of love for him as a person, instead he was loved as an "artist." All the fame in the world, and all the money in the world can't buy L.O.V.E.! How sad! sad

Yeah , at least his kids will get the moolah smile lol


They deserve every penny. Poor babies. sad
I hope they find true L.O.V.E.
Michael's true legacy isn't his albums, but how well behaved
and good his children turn out to be. And all signs point to the
fact that he was a great father - so I'm sure his kids will turn out
to be outstanding adults..and that makes my heart so happy. biggrin
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Reply #532 posted 11/28/09 7:47pm

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bboy87 said:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/143029/Michael-Jackson-s-debt-is-paid-off

MICHAEL JACKSON'S DEBT IS PAID OFF



Damn he had to die for it to get paid off neutral


Wouldn't the tour have paid off his debts too?

Whoa, do you have a HQ version of the picture in your avatar?
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Reply #533 posted 11/28/09 9:30pm

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bboy87 said:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/143029/Michael-Jackson-s-debt-is-paid-off

MICHAEL JACKSON'S DEBT IS PAID OFF


This Is It has raised over £150m for the Jackson estate
Sunday November 29,2009

By Mike Parker
THE debts that plunged Michael Jackson’s life into turmoil have been cleared, barely five months after his death.
Music royalties and box-office takings for the film This Is It have brought in almost half-a-billion dollars to the King of Pop’s estate.
The phenomenal flow of cash, which does not include income from Jackson souvenirs and memorabilia, more than covers the estimated £250million he owed. Administrators John Branca and John McClain still face at least six lawsuits, originally filed against the singer but now transferred to his estate.

These include a £180million action by New Jersey based company AllGood Entertainment that claims Jackson reneged on a planned pay-per-view TV reunion concert with his brothers in Texas.

Hollywood director John Landis, who made the singer’s 1983 Thriller video, is also suing for an undisclosed sum over alleged non- payment of his share of the profits.

A spokesman for the administrators said yesterday: “Our attorneys are in negotiations with various parties on a number of unresolved issues. We expect these to be amicably resolved by early in the New Year.”
Even hefty out-of-court settlements and legal fees won’t make much of a dent in Jackson’s posthumous fortune and future earning potential, according to financial experts.

Jackson was already No3 on Forbes Magazine’s annual list of highest- grossing dead celebrities, behind fashion icon Yves St Laurent and composers Rodgers & Hammerstein, before This Is It was released last month. By yesterday, the film had raked in almost $240million worldwide, according to online monitor Box Office Mojo, with eventual income from DVD sales expected to double that. Sales of the spin-off double CD, which has made the top 10 in more than 120 countries, as well as re-releases of Jackson’s classic albums, are “conservatively” expected to top £180million by Christmas, according to Sony Music.

Forbes senior editor Matthew Miller believes the Jackson phenomenon will continue to dominate the magazine’s dead celebrity chart for years to come. His posthumous earnings already dwarf those of Elvis Presley, whose estate made only £34 in the current financial year. Mr Miller said: “In life, Michael sank into uncontroll­able debt, raising enormous loans to pay for other ones he couldn’t afford. He was, basically, a multi-millionaire living a billionaire lifestyle.”
Now, in an ironic twist, financial experts predict Jackson’s estate could be as much as a billion dollars in profit by the end of next year, with plans to launch as many as six new CDs.
The cash bonanza removes any financial uncertainty there may have been over the future of the singer’s three children, Prince Michael, 12, Paris, 11, and seven-year-old Prince Michael II.
Mr Miller said: “If they chose, none of them would have to work a single day in their lives.”

Damn he had to die for it to get paid off neutral




sad , 6 albums? i hope there are some gems on there
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Reply #534 posted 11/28/09 10:30pm

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Arnotts said:

ItsAllForLOVE said:



Wouldn't the tour have paid off his debts too?

Whoa, do you have a HQ version of the picture in your avatar?


this is all I have!


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Reply #535 posted 11/28/09 10:32pm

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whew..... hot...
Lay back in my tenderness... Stay with me... Don't you go nowhere...
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Reply #536 posted 11/28/09 11:00pm

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Reply #537 posted 11/29/09 12:31am

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http://www.dailystar.co.u...niversity-

POP legend Michael Jackson was planning to start a university course in fine art after his daughter Paris begged him to follow his dream of studying.

Michael wanted to head back to the classroom to become a qualified art historian.

But it was 11-year-old Paris who gave her famous dad the push he needed to study.

Last May he got his assistants to contact both Christie’s Education and Sotheby’s Institute of Art, both in New York, with a view to starting a year-long course in September next year.

Last night a source close to the star, who died in June, aged 50, said: “It was all because of Paris that Michael decided to follow his dream.

“She gave him the confidence to finally contact the colleges that are attached to the famous auction houses.”

The course Jackson had pencilled in was called “Certificate in Modern Art, Connoisseurship and the History of the Art Market”.

The source added: “Michael regretted the fact that he never got the chance to go to university because his music career started so early.

“But he made up for it by reading widely. He absolutely devoured books on art and crafts and was an avid collector. He had an insatiable thirst for knowledge.

n“People don’t realise but Michael was surrounded by a whole gang of academic friends. Many of his closest associates had nothing to do with showbiz.

“He was also inspired by a motivation to prove his father wrong, as Joe Jackson constantly accused Michael of being stupid. Most of all, Michael wanted to be an inspiration to his own kids.”
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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A few pages from the Jackson 'Opus'


As the year that saw the death of the world's biggest pop star draws to a close, Michael Jackson gets one more big tribute: The Official Michael Jackson Opus, which arrives Dec. 7 and weighs in at a whopping 38 pounds. The $249 book boasts 404 pages of images, more than 80% of them never before seen.

Publisher Kraken Opus sticks to positive aspects of Jackson's life. "This is a loving tribute to his legacy and work," says Deborah Wald, the photo editor who collected the material. "We designed this book with his children in mind."

USA TODAY's Korina Lopez asks Wald to share the back stories on some of the book's images.






Michael signs an autograph outside the Rolling Stone offices in 1971. "The Jackson 5 had just been signed to Motown, and that legendary cover of Rolling Stone came from this photo shoot," Wald says. The April 29 cover bore the headline "Why does this eleven year old stay up past his bedtime?" But the band's seasoned lead singer actually was all of 12.







"This 1984 photo was taken at Leo Carillo Beach in Malibu, Calif., with his brothers (to promote The Jacksons' Victory Tour). The idea behind the shoot was to depict images of victory. Everyone else wanted to dress up as race car drivers, but Michael liked to be different. He chose to be a jockey."







"He loved clothing; he loved fashion. This photo was taken (in 1991) right before he shot the video for In the Closet with Naomi Campbell. One of the chapters of the book is dedicated to his sense of style."







"Producer Ken Kragen had this lyric sheet hanging up in his home. It took a lot of convincing to get him to take it out of the frame so we could include it in the book. It's signed by all the artists who sang (in 1985) on We Are the World. Michael's inspiration to write this song came from (primatologist) Jane Goodall, who visited him at Neverland. He talked to her about his aspirations to heal the world, and wanted to know how to set about that task. She said, 'Write a song.' So he did."







"Michael commissioned artist Nate Giorgio to paint and draw for him over the last 25 years. They grew to be very close friends, too. These are Michael's favorite photos that were taken throughout his career from The Wiz, left, to his performance on The Ed Sullivan Show (wearing the purple hat). He gave these images to Nate, asking him to create one work of art from them."






"These are four of the last images of Michael. Nate painted these 2 weeks before Michael's death. Michael usually wore a black leather jacket to their sessions. These are very quick studies in which Nate was teaching Michael how to hold a thick paintbrush. Michael loved art and studied Michelangelo and da Vinci. He often asked Nate to teach him painting and illustration."
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How do some of you feel about MJJC charging members a fee to access the 2000 Watts section? neutral
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