Since when was Klymaxx on Solar?

I will be watching this too.

scriptgirl said:

yeah, i was surprised by that too.

They were on Solar records in their early
years when Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis first
got into producing. They also worked with
Lakeside members Otis Stokes and Stephen Shockley
then. I think one of the girls from Klymaxx was
actually married to Shockley. They signed with
Constellation/MCA records before they released their
breakthrough album Meeting in the Ladies Room. I look
forward to this episode. Klymaxx was definitely unique
and bought something to R&B that was not seen before which
was an all black female band.

Does anyone else besides me think that
Bernadette favors CeCe Peniston?

Constellation is a SOLAR subsidiary.

scriptgirl said:

They put out two albums on Solar:

Never Underestimate The Power Of A Woman (1981)

Girls Will Be Girls (1982)

A third album (Girls In The Band) was recorded in 1983 with the bangin' Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis produced single, Multi Purpose Girls, but from what I've read on line was discontinued because they were moved down to one of Solar's subsidiaries, Constellation.
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phunkdaddy said:

I was kinda pissed when the group fell apart after their 1986 album.This was such a cool concept.I wanted them to take it further.

SoulAlive said:

Me too. First Bernadette left and started producing and Fenderella
started working on a solo album and the remaining members wanted her
to concentrate on her solo album instead of putting the group on
hold.

Just thought I would bump this up for interested parties.

FUNNY I was just listening to Bernadette's album today and stumbled on this topic...I went and even read about them making a new album from an interview Bernadette did with a gay magazine on teh net. I miss them!

aww man, did i miss it? errr.

bumping-this airs today
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I never really knew much about Klymaxx which is why I tuned into watch this tonight, but watching it was quite disappointing. I mean they had like three hits, but somehow egos got involved from just that? I really didn't get how some of the members started leaving after their lukewarm success, I mean maybe it's just me, but I think they were a bit premature thinking that they had all of a sudden "reached the top", I do believe they were getting there, had they stayed together a little longer they would have exploded but like I said, thats just my opinion. I also found it interesting how they put that one lady on blast years later after she trade marked the group's name, replaced all the members (though all of them had left by that time anyway) and started touring under the name of Klymaxx. I really don't know who is right or wrong in that situation. It just seems like a big old mess.

missfee said:

That's why I didn't watch it, they had only three hits and then they start beefing. WTF? smh

Good show. Klymaxx for me was one of those groups you liked, they had a couple hits, they went away, you wondered for a minute what happened, and than you moved on.

As far as their ego's getting the better of them and they crashed and burned... that's happened in the music business alot and in all types of businesses. So.... Who got the bands named copyrighted? If wasn't Bernadette Cooper she should have since she founded the group.

Timmy84 said:

Sorry guys but Klymaxx had 7 hits. Their followup album to Meeting in the Ladies Room spawned 3 top 20 hits. Sexy was #18 r&b,I'd Still Say Yes
was #7 r&b,and Divas Need Love Too was #14 r&b. They had one more top 10
hit with Good Love in 1990. Never underestimate the power of Klymaxx. lol
To me this was the most interesting episode this season. Tina Marie's
episode was very bland. There was nothing that really inhibited her success.
Bootsy's episode was okay but i didn't learn anything new there either.
This unsung was well put together much like Shalamar's.

TD3 said:

That's one thing that troubled me about that. Shouldn't a founder of the group have full copyrights of that name?

Timmy84 said:

No. because Ms. Cooper didn't legally copyright the name as she should have done when she came up with the name for the group.

If there is no band agreement and the arrangement is informal, the right to the band name customarily stays with the band. Without a formal contract specifying who owns the band’s name, a member who is kicked out may form a new competing band with the same name. Once a band name dispute arises from an informal arrangement, a lawsuit must be filed for a court to determine who used the name first and which members were in the band when its names gained a "secondary meaning" (i.e., the public began recognizing the band by its name). If it can be proven that certain members were identified by the public as being in the band, the court can bar the use of band’s name by another individual or other competing group. To determine ownership, a court will inquire into who has artistic control over the band and for how long.

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TD3 said:

That's insane.

These ladies didn't age very well with the exception
of Fenderella. Damn Robin Grider looks really rough like
she been through some stuff. Was it me or did it look like
she lost all her choppers?
Too bad things fell apart for these ladies quickly much like
the Mary Jane Girls. I'll never forget how they lit it up
in 1985. They were on fire.

phunkdaddy said:

Klymaxx and the MJGs fell apart at the same got damn time too.

Timmy84 said:

Nevertheless;Bernadette has won legal use of the Klymaxx name.
Bernadette,Fenderella,vocalist Pennye Ford and other members are
now touring as Klymaxx.

Timmy84 said:

I was pissed off how the MJG's shit fell apart. They were due to release
an album called Conversation in 85. My ass was constantly calling the
record store for the release date and it kept getting pushed back. All the
while Rick got into a dispute with Motown and couldn't use the name anymore.
He wound up giving some of the songs to Val Young in 87 on her Private
Conversations album.

phunkdaddy said:

That's good and all but that's still some drama for your mama. Hell naw lol Compared to other girl groups that's a mess.

phunkdaddy said:

That's why I wished sometimes when groups are that good that they don't rely on someone or even have conflict to make it work. Both groups had something good and something bad got in the way. It makes me sick sometimes lol

phunkdaddy said:

Yes, Ms. Cooper has a legal right to use the name but she has no control over brand/name. In theory each one of those ladies in the group could set-up a band and call themselves Klymaxx too. I think thats what the disagreement was about. If Ms. Cooper wanted to protect the bands name and legacy she should have copyrighted the name from jump. She didn't know, young and inexperienced.


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TD3 said:

Yeah that's what happens when you don't know how things are going to be in the long run. Like a lot of the "Unsung" artists, they should've had better management, better advice, better something...

Timmy84 said:

That's the one thing I've always admired about The Rolling Stones, through it all they realized the sum of who they were was their strength.