I heard about this form of rap called Trap music which is all about guys who sell crack and live in trap houses. Its like crunk rap and has artists like Gucci Mane and Plies (I think). I watched a video by a guy denouncing it, and I agree, its all about glamorising drug dealing and the crudest ghetto stereotypes around, rims, hos, cash, guys with gold teeth and tacky pimp style bling. This video even said that these guys were paid millions by white racists to sell this lifestyle to young black men to keep them like that.
Does anyone else know about this form of crude rap and want it banned as well.

Huggiebear said:

Oh the video was by some guy called blackmilitant

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Huggiebear said:

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missfee said:

and this is whats wrong with the black community today our people need to wake up

Wow, you mean rap music has NEVER glorified drugs before?????

Huggiebear said:

Ever heard of a rap style created in the late 1980's known as gangsta rap?!?

Yes I know, but this artist and music was even more debased and deprived than gangsta rap. Why do people get into this shit?

Because they have no fucking taste. And not only are they making the white racist happy by degrading themselves, but they also are making music that entertains him since they have about as much rhythm as a white racist, which is none.

Yeah, hip hop turned into shit hop a long time ago. The early 80s rap was great but most of it after that, hell naw.

vainandy said:

But in this thread, we're talking about lyrical references to selling drugs & drug abuse. Some of the gangsta rap artists had touch on this subject long before these Trap rap artists came along.

"This video even said that these guys were paid millions by white racists to sell this lifestyle to young black men to keep them like that.Does anyone else know about this form of crude rap and want it banned as well?"

Flippin through the channels last night I landed on a special about drugs and how the US Govt. during the Iran / Contra scandal employed the CIA to import coke into the ghettos of LA not just to fund Reagan's secret and illegal military actions in the middle east but to deliberately hamstring the black community by hooking them on crack.

They spotlighted a dealer named Freeway Ricky Ross who was taught by a CIA operative named Blandon' how to increase profitability (and thereby addict many more people) by turning expensive flake into cheap rock).

Ricky would sometimes make $3 million in a day!

And when the local cops were about to raid his locations Ricky would receive intel ahead of time so he could stay ahead of the law. Hmmmm... now who would would have that kind of insider information AND want to keep Ricky in business?

They interviewed Ricky (in jail now) and to his way of thinking he was just lucky to find a great source who would front him huge quantities of product so he could go to work on a grand scale. He never really thought too much about all these lucky warnings he was getting on a regualr basis.

But now that all this shit has been revealed aboout how Oliver North was at the head of all this evil Ricky sees that he was totally played as the key man to ruin a people and "keep darky down." The CIA was pushing Ricky's ego buttons (I'm the BIGGEST dealer that ever lived!) like an accordian.

There was some incredible footage of a scrupled (is that a word?) 18 year law enforcement vet confronting the national drug czar at a public meeting about this terrible scourge in LA attended by thousands of concerned citizens about how it was a deliberately planned act by the US government to create and release crack into the community.

Of course the main investigative journalist (a guy named Wade, I think) was found dead of "an apparent suicide" and the official congressional inquiry into Iran Contra and its downsteam by-products in the ghetto absolved the CIA of any wrong-doing.. Surprise, surprise.

So now Oliver North has his own show on FOX and so many brothers are in prison and so many other peoples lives have been ruined.

Many areas in LA were so devastated by the crack epidemic that once upwardly mobile people lost their homes on such a scale that entire neighborhoods were abandoned due to inability to make the mortgage payments anymore thanks to the effects of crack cocaine, either directly on their own lives as users, or because of the crime and dangers rampant on their streets they had to leave.

Now these same areas have been gentrfied by white real estate speculators who swooped in and picked up the burned out and boarded up properties for pennies on the dollar. Houses that were once affordable for the local people now run $300K, keeping the money in the hands of those it should be in, right?

A job well done thanks to Ronald Reagan and his thugs.

So do I believe that a powerful group of white racists paid millions to keep a certain demographic dumbed down?

Absolutely, but it was done as a highly sophisticated covert operation by the world's best experts who played guys like Ricky Ross as patsys. They built Ricky up as a legendary figure who many others then emulated and spread the epidemic even faster and farther to other cities. It was a brilliant strategy and it worked.

Local police forces were totally overwhelmed and kept busy picking up the small time players but the Ricky Rosses were being taken care of by the very people who engineered this evil mess.

So no, it wasn't a matter of a simple phone call from a white music industry executive offering million dollar contracts to anyone who would write rap songs glorifying drugs and the gangbanger lifestyle, it was far more insidious than that.
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The drug thing is bigger than hip-hop.

So they have put a label on it now...it's all ridiculous, but that is neither here nor there.

Chic35 said:

I'm saying! The fuck is "trap rap"? It ain't us that are giving these "styles" their names. Makes me sick. It's all hip-hop to me.

Trap rap, gangsta rap, crunk junk....it's all shit hop and it's all shit. The different names just describe the type of shit it is....long turds, diarrrhea, or constipated chunks.

vainandy said:

THE SOLUTION:



Clean the system out without questions.
[Edited 10/15/09 15:43pm]

I'll say it again, the fuck is trap rap? lol

well since I'm of this generation and regularly socialize with people that enjoy this kind've music(and btw it's not only black people, I don't think i could tell you how many people of ALL races...except asians, who enjoy gucci mane & houston choppped & screwed etc) people enjoy this music because it is the "cool thing" simple as. Why did people 30 years like funk & disco & rock even though it isn't as musically sophisticated as classical & jazz? because it's the cool thing. It was the taste of the time. The only thing that truly differentiates between that kinda music and this is their is no real substantive or stylistic evolution in rap music atm. At least FUNK branched off into synth funk, techno, or disco, and disco became house, electro and pop music. I can't foresee what the hell rap like this with no original musical contribution could branch off into.

Timmy84 said:

Timmy, its a name I heard on the Blackmilitant video, apparently a trap is a crack house, and trap rap is about crack and meth dealers who also are players, gangsters, pimps and they rap about it. Their songs glamorise getting paid and moving rock etc. The music apparently is a mixture of dirty rap, southern Lil Jon style crunk rap and pure gangsta thug rap (Ie it is shit), Plies, Gucci Mane and Houston are seen as their main artists.
Nearly all of these "artists" have criminal records and are from very ghetto backgrounds

Huggiebear said:

Gangster rap and crunk rap are "names" too, lol

But I guess when you talk about selling crack and shooting and all that shit, you have to have a name for it, that's irritating. Then again I'm glad I don't know their music.
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Huggiebear said:

so i wonder why he's blaming it on white racists.

i don't doubt that it's in part due to money hungry white assholes, but seriously, people need to realize that if no one wanted to be a part of it, it wouldn't exist. don't blame it solely on one group. there had to be willing participants.

Gucci !!!!!

I like his stuff, and no Trap shouldn't be banned, if anything, all this emo fucking electro pop bullshit should be.

ernestsewell said:

Not the way 'Trap-music" is glorifying it.

JarviusLovesexy said:

Bullshit. MFers been rapping about selling drugs and making money from it for ages, and not just week.

O.K., so rappers making songs about selling drugs is wrong and should be banned.

But it's OK for countless rockers like Mick Jagger to make songs like Sister Morphine?

Or a funk artist like Rick James to have a Quaalude reference in his biggest hit?

Or pretty much every artist in Music history?

The countless Blues Artists.

Everybody!!!

So you're saying one genre of music should be banned for talking about selling drugs, but it's perfectly fine for ALL the rest of music to talking about using drugs?

So singing about DOING Drugs is OK.

But rapping about SELLING Drugs is not OK.

What I'm hearing is that you can talk about drugs all you want as long as you sing about it but don't rap.

Paris9748430 said:

Not at all, songs that sing about glamorising drugs and drug abuse by rock groups are just as bad (In fact even worse than rap, because it reaches a wider group of people than trap rap would)
I am anti drugs period, I also agree there are willing participants who love their fucked up lifestyles so much, that if they can rap or sing about it, thats great cos theres more money for the drugs they use. But I think a lot of people only sing that shit because they are being paid money too. You must know a lot of pushers actually aren't users. Remember the number of early 90s rappers who went on about the hard streets who came from middle class homes like Vanilla Ice, Young MC and apparently Coolio was also from a good home.

vainandy said:

thats classic period. cant be touched.

but no its not the best ever lol

I don't care if they're singing about selling ass on the corner as long as it's not shit hop. Any excuse to get rid of shit hop, I'm for.