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Thread started 09/23/09 6:15am

Graycap23

Mackenzie Phillips: I slept with my father

Mackenzie Phillips: I slept with my father


The bombshell that Mackenzie Phillips will drop on Oprah today? She slept with her father.

In her tell-all book, out today, the actress says that her dad, musician John Phillips of the '60s band the Mamas and the Papas, engaged with her in a long-term incestuous relationship.

http://blogs.usatoday.com...rtainment/
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Reply #1 posted 09/23/09 6:18am

SoulAlive

eek disbelief
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Reply #2 posted 09/23/09 6:29am

pulpfictionfan

*whistles*

That's.....that's quite a bombshell, alright.
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Reply #3 posted 09/23/09 7:18am

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eek
Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off
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Reply #4 posted 09/23/09 7:21am

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eep. eek
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Reply #5 posted 09/23/09 7:32am

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eek
No wonder she's had a f***** up life.
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Reply #6 posted 09/23/09 7:52am

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omg
"Always blessings, never losses......"

Ya te dije....no manches guey!!!!!

mad I'm a guy!!!!

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Reply #7 posted 09/23/09 8:14am

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that is disgusting. is he dead? he should be.
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Reply #8 posted 09/23/09 8:24am

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DesireeNevermind said:

that is disgusting. is he dead? he should be.



He died early this decade, I believe. He was a drug addict pretty much his entire life, I seem to recall that he had a liver transplant at one point.
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Reply #9 posted 09/23/09 8:31am

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NoVideo said:
DesireeNevermind said:
that is disgusting. is he dead? he should be.


He died early this decade, I believe. He was a drug addict pretty much his entire life, I seem to recall that he had a liver transplant at one point.


That's really f***ed up if its true. But then again her father is dead and cannot defend himself over these allegations. I'm not saying that there isn't any truth in these allegations, but she is trying to sell her autobiography. That would be something like me writing a tell-all book about how I had a kinky relationship with Princess Diana that involved anal sex and S&M. She's not around to refute my "claims", so I could say anything.

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Reply #10 posted 09/23/09 8:40am

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I believe it to be true because why make up a story that results in you looking like the lowest thing on earth second only to your daddy who fucked you? I mean she just as much trashes herself with such allegations. I remember her saying they used drugs together so perhaps this is how the incest started. The family that smokes crack together gets down together too. Ugh!! That is so fucking nasty. I wonder what her half sis will say about this. Isn't her half sis that skinny blonde from the 90s group wilson phillips?

Ewwww. what if she got pregnant by her daddy? Ima be sick. ill
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Reply #11 posted 09/23/09 8:56am

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I read his bio Papa John a few years back.

He had some pretty sleazy stuff going on. He wrote great songs and gets those super Leon Russell sized publishing checks and blew it on drugs.

Now this thing with Mackenzie is here.

It makes me listen to this song in a new light.



[Edited 9/23/09 8:56am]
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Reply #12 posted 09/23/09 9:05am

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carlcranshaw said:

I read his bio Papa John a few years back.

He had some pretty sleazy stuff going on. He wrote great songs and gets those super Leon Russell sized publishing checks and blew it on drugs.

Now this thing with Mackenzie is here.

It makes me listen to this song in a new light.



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I see your point.
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Reply #13 posted 09/23/09 9:16am

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Was she in Wilson Phillips?

I am not familiar with her or the daddy. Was it his house that Sly Stone bought when he recorded There's A Riot Goin On?

Incest isn't a charge you just throw out there. If you want to be scandalous and get attention, there are other things you can say.
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Reply #14 posted 09/23/09 9:31am

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DesireeNevermind said:



Isn't her half sis that skinny blonde from the 90s group wilson phillips?




That is correct. Chynna Phillips is Mackenzie's younger half-sister, as is Bijou Phillips the actress.
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NoVideo said:

DesireeNevermind said:



Isn't her half sis that skinny blonde from the 90s group wilson phillips?




That is correct. Chynna Phillips is Mackenzie's younger half-sister, as is Bijou Phillips the actress.


Bijou is a little crazy too so I can see the connection there. Chynna seems like the normal one in the family.
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Reply #16 posted 09/23/09 9:56am

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NoVideo said:

DesireeNevermind said:



Isn't her half sis that skinny blonde from the 90s group wilson phillips?




That is correct. Chynna Phillips is Mackenzie's younger half-sister, as is Bijou Phillips the actress.



I always thought Bijou was so pretty. She used to model too. I think she tried to sing no?
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Reply #17 posted 09/23/09 10:11am

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This poor woman is so fucked up from her life of abuse and drugs. Very sad. Her father was an asshole through and through.
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Reply #18 posted 09/23/09 10:12am

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This chick had the craziest life. Anybody who thinks they're messed up, compare and take notes! lol

hopefully she is or has found peace in all of this.
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Reply #19 posted 09/23/09 10:13am

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Why am I not shocked that John abused his daughter?
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Reply #20 posted 09/23/09 10:17am

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Timmy84 said:

Why am I not shocked that John abused his daughter?


I know....
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Reply #21 posted 09/23/09 10:22am

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Timmy84 said:

Why am I not shocked that John abused his daughter?


I know....


He just rendered that creepy vibe. confused Even when he was in the Mamas and Papas, still don't see what MICHELLE saw in him. eek
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Reply #22 posted 09/23/09 11:30am

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NoVideo said:

DesireeNevermind said:



Isn't her half sis that skinny blonde from the 90s group wilson phillips?




That is correct. Chynna Phillips is Mackenzie's younger half-sister, as is Bijou Phillips the actress.


Chynna says she had known about the affair for awhile now.

From the NY Daily News:

Chynna Phillips recalls learning about sister Mackenzie Phillips' affair with father, John Phillips
By Cristina Everett
Daily News Staff Writer

Wednesday, September 23rd 2009, 1:23 PM

While the public is now learning of Mackenzie Phillips' incestuous affair with her father, Mamas and the Papas singer John Phillips, the former child star's half-sister recalls first learning of the shocking news 12 years ago.

In the new issue of Us Weekly, Chynna Phillips remembers getting a call from her famous sibling in 1997 – 11 years after the affair had ended – while she was between flights at New York's LaGuardia Airport.

"She said, 'I don't know why, but I just really felt the need to call you and tell you something that I think you need to know,'" Chynna said. "And she went on to tell me that she had had an incestuous relationship with our dad for about 10 years.

"Somebody could have dropped a piano on my head and I probably wouldn't have felt it," the singer added. "But I knew it was true. I mean, who in their right mind would make such a claim if it wasn't true?"

During the time of the affair, John was married to his third wife, model Genevieve Waïte.

In addition to detailing the affair in her new memoir, "High on Arrival," out Wednesday, Mackenzie, 49, goes on to reveal that it was her father who introduced her to the drug abuse she has battled for decades.

In an interview with Oprah Winfrey airing Wednesday, the actress paints a picture of her father helping her shoot up drugs for the first time.

"I remember going into my room, I was crouched on the floor. ... He put the needle in my arm and put the plunger in and he missed," she says in a promotional video for the Oprah appearance. "He missed the vein and my whole arm went numb."

Chynna added, "After long nights of heroin use, she's claiming that she once woke up and that my father was on top of her having sex with her. Was he actually raping her? I don't know. Do I believe that they had an incestuous relationship and that it went on for 10 years? Yes."

After Mackenzie was fired from her ‘80s sitcom, "One Day at a Time," she and her father entered rehab together. John died in 2001.

Chynna, of the hit 1990s group Wilson Phillips, says that the shocking news of her father and half-sister sent her into "a deep, deep sadness and depression for about 10 days. A part of me died when I found out."

http://www.nydailynews.co...z0RxJfndTh
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Reply #23 posted 09/23/09 11:36am

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Timmy84 said:

Why am I not shocked that John abused his daughter?


yeah that is pretty horrible, but he had no boundaries as Mac herself said.

He wrote some really great stuff, too, it's hard to hear these kind of things about artists.
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Reply #24 posted 09/23/09 11:42am

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carlcranshaw said:

I read his bio Papa John a few years back.

He had some pretty sleazy stuff going on. He wrote great songs and gets those super Leon Russell sized publishing checks and blew it on drugs.

Now this thing with Mackenzie is here.

It makes me listen to this song in a new light.



[Edited 9/23/09 8:56am]





In an interview I saw several years ago he said that song is about the affair between then wife, Michelle Phillips and fellow group member Denny Doherty.
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Reply #25 posted 09/23/09 11:48am

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I feel bad for Chyna...who the hell wants that shit in your family? Drugs are bad enough but incest over a 10 year period between your sis and your pop? Murder in a family seems easier to contend with. disbelief
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Reply #26 posted 09/23/09 12:08pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

NoVideo said:




That is correct. Chynna Phillips is Mackenzie's younger half-sister, as is Bijou Phillips the actress.



I always thought Bijou was so pretty. She used to model too. I think she tried to sing no?


Yeah, she used to model and was with Sean Lennon for a minute. Her reputation precedes her in fashion and film circles.
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Reply #27 posted 09/23/09 12:16pm

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this is terrible, a father having sex and doing drugs with his daughter. damn

i could never talk about this if i were her, it's shameful
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Reply #28 posted 09/23/09 12:19pm

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FunkyGraf said:

Was she in Wilson Phillips?

I am not familiar with her or the daddy. Was it his house that Sly Stone bought when he recorded There's A Riot Goin On?

Incest isn't a charge you just throw out there. If you want to be scandalous and get attention, there are other things you can say.


Are you referring to Mackenzie?

She's a former sitcom star from when I was a child, a fixture from 70's television pop culture. She's had a very difficult life wrought with drug abuse an it's no secret that she's struggled with her demons for the past 30 years. She's been scandalous and making headlines for longer than many of the people on this board have been alive, and I am of the opinion that it's all not entirely her fault. She's also not exactly poor, so blabbing her mouth for money isn't really an issue, I think. As for her dad, look him up: he's part of the cornerstone of 1960's California music culture.
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Reply #29 posted 09/23/09 12:29pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

I feel bad for Chyna...who the hell wants that shit in your family? Drugs are bad enough but incest over a 10 year period between your sis and your pop? Murder in a family seems easier to contend with. disbelief


Surely you're not blaming it on Mackenzie though, no? It seems to me a parent needs to have boundaries to not shoot their own kid up with heroin and fuck'em senseless hmm. Besides that, when these sorts of traumas happen in families, quite often everyone in the family nucleus knows. It often simply becomes a matter of what members choose to enable, ignore, block, or conveniently forget.
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