DesireeNevermind said:

Pics?
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DesireeNevermind said:

My Japanese edition is still in it's packaging. I only played it twice.


Michael and Marlon dealt with alot during touring. They both seemed very sensitive which is why they always stayed close.


Unlike the other brothers, when they reached a certain age, they started drifting away from the others. Marlon was living in either San Diego or Atlanta and Michael was at Neverland.


In Jermaine's ex wife's book, she said that Michael and Marlon pretty much stayed away from the other brothers, and after Word To The Badd, Michael wouldn't speak to Jermaine for at least 2 years

bboy87 said:

so sad that a family once so close had to drift apart like that. I believe Marlon was in ATL. I think it's true that marriage was a way out of the fold for them. I'd heard about Marlon and Mike living apart from the rest of the family but I didn't know that Jermaine and Mike were not speaking for that long. Makes me wonder about him making it seem like he and Mike were so tight up until the end.

bboy87 said:

I agree, their body language to each other was very eerily similar. I think of all the brothers, Marlon's taking his death the hardest.

DesireeNevermind said:

Jermaine has, unfortunately, delusions of grandeur in his head. Sometimes I don't think Jermaine even realize he can sometimes go off the deep end and think he's speaking for the family when he's not.

I'm still waiting on who's gonna be on his Vienna MJ tribute concert.

DesireeNevermind said:

Jermaine and Michael were real close, but after Jermaine and his family moving into the house, Word To The Badd....they were estranged


On the J5Secrets site, you see Jermaine sending loads of faxes and memos to Michael's office so he can speak to him and you don't see a reply from Michael until like 92 or maybe even '94

All the neices and nephews knew how to get in touch with him though

Tito's sons were always by his side and he put Jermaine and Jackie's kids in his videos and commercials
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ladygirl99 said:

MJ touring almost his entire life??? Where did you get that from?...most of the time he was showing off or he was hiding or lately trying to lead a sort of normal life at least on the days as far as I know ... Just look it up, how many concerts did he play within the last ten years?

How many the 30 year before?

And now just out of curiosity, compare that number to touring acts...you can choose Prince, well he became hip lazy...lately, but before?

Greatful dead???

So don't tell me about he was touring practically all his life...if he would have been so into music, There would have been more albums, he was into sales and breaking records after Thriller, glad Prince realised the trap of Purple Rain and walked past it...

Juize09 said:

From 1964 to 1984, Michael was touring nonstop

from 1964 to 1968: talent shows, clubs, and the chitlin circuit

Jackson 5 First National Tour : May to December 1970
Jackson 5 Second National Tour: January -September 1971
Jackson 5 U.S Tour- October 1971- October 1972
Jackson 5 European Tour- November 1974 (4 countries)

March 1973 shows (3 shows in the U.S)

Japanese Tour 1973- April to May 1973

U.S. Tour: May 1973

Australian Tour: June to July 1973

Jackson 5 North American Tour- July to September 1973

Africa Tour: February 1974

Houston Texas show- February 1974

Las Vegas stints: April 1974, September 1974, and December 1974

series of U.S shows from April to August 1974

South American, Japan, Hong Kong, Phillipines, Australia, and New Zealand shows: October to November 1974

West Indies Tour- January 1975

Radio Music City Hall show- February 1975

show in Jamaica as opening act for Bob Marley- March 1975

U.S and Mexico shows- June to December 1975

Final Jackson 5 Tour- February 1976


1977 Tour- 2 weeks in the UK and Spain

1978 Tour

Destiny Tour/Off The Wall Tour: January to November 1979 (over 80 shows)

Triumph Tour: July to September 1981 (39 shows)

shows at the Budweiser Superfest in 1982

Victory Tour- July to September 1984 (55 shows)

Bad World Tour- September 1987 to January 1989 (123 shows)

Dangerous World Tour- June 1992 to November 1993 (69 shows)

Royal Concert in Brunei- July 1996

HIStory World Tour- September 1996 to October 1997 (81 shows)

Michael Jackson and Friends- July 1999

then add the numerous tv appearances...
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Don't forget the one-nighters he and his brothers were doing between 1966 and 1969.

bboy87 said:

Most of his tours took place in the first 20 yrs of his career.
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whatsgoingon said:

I Was a Veteran, Before I Was a Teenager --Michael Jackson.

Anything new?....haven't checked in forever.

Juize09 said:

Damn dude you acting just like some of the Thriller bandwagons and fans as if his career started in 1982. Hello Michael been touring and doing shows and singing and writing and doing commericals and tv appearances since he was six years old first with his brothers and family, barely four years after he started walking. The only time he got a break performing and making official albums was from shortly after Invincible to only up until a few months ago because of fatherhood and child molestation allegations he dealth with. Despite the frustrations from some of the supporters for lack of performance and low key appearances for the last decade or so, he fucking deserved the break and much more. I was one of the fans that really did not care about the touring part despite the London concerts announcement I just want a new album and he could still do some one nite concerts or special appearances just to do his farawell and had those things occurrred he would not been high strung and exhaustion during his final days and he would been here today.

And comparing Prince to Michael is cliche as comparing apples and oranges.

seeingvoices12 said:

What you mean besides Joe's recent interview and the funeral? No. Oh and Macaulay Culkin's steadfastly disputing tabloids claiming he's the son of Blanket, lol

Former Protégé Vouches for Jackson

Thursday, April 07, 2005

By Roger Friedman


No matter who testifies next in Michael Jackson's alleged "prior acts" of sexual abuse mini-trial, the prosecution will have to deal with the fact that only one boy will show up to say he was molested many years ago by the pop star.

Now comes Robert Newt, 30, long a "Holy Grail" for The National Enquirer from its investigation into Jackson circa 1993.

Newt and his twin brother Ronald Newt Jr. (now deceased) were aspiring performers and spent two weeks as guests in the Jackson family home in Encino, Calif., around 1985. They were about 11 years old. This all occurred before Neverland was completed. Michael, Janet Jackson and LaToya Jackson were all there, as well as the Jackson parents.

Fast-forward to December 1993. The National Enquirer, desperate to get a scoop that Jackson has abused children, heard that the Newt kids once spent time with Jackson.

The tabloid offered the Newts' father, Ronald Newt Sr., $200,000 to say that something happened between his kids and Jackson.

Newt, a San Francisco "character" and filmmaker whose past includes pimping and jail time, considered the offer.

A contract was drawn up, signed by Enquirer editor David Perel. Enquirer reporter Jim Mitteager, who is also now deceased, met with Newt and his son at the Marriott hotel in downtown San Francisco.

It seemed that all systems were go. But the Newts declined the offer at the last minute.

Ron Newt Sr., to whom $200,000 would have seemed like the world on a silver platter, wrote "No good sucker" where his signature was supposed to go. The reason: Nothing ever happened between Jackson and the Newt boys.

Indeed, no kids, no matter how much money was dangled by the tabloids, ever showed up to trade stories of Jackson malfeasance for big lumps of cash after the first scandal broke in 1993.

"Maybe there aren't any other kids," a current Enquirer editor conceded.

I met Bobby Newt yesterday near the office where he works as a mortgage broker in suburban Los Angeles.

Just as his dad promised me a few days earlier, he's a good-looking kid. He's half black and half Chinese.

Robert and his twin brother were likely very cute kids. They have the same features as other boys advertised as alleged Neverland "victims." But all Bobby Newt remembers of his encounter with Jackson is good times.

And all he remembers about the man from The National Enquirer is that he wanted Bobby, then 18, to lie.

"He said, 'Say he grabbed you on the butt. Say he grabbed you and touched you in any kind of way,'" Newt said. "He told us he took all these people down. Now he was going to take Michael down. That he would really destroy him. He told us he took all these other famous people down.

All the major people that had scandals against them. He said, 'We take these people down. That's what we do.'"

Prior to Bobby's meeting with Mitteager, Bobby's father met with him and brought along an intermediary, San Francisco politician, businessman and fellow jailbird Charlie Walker.

Walker is infamous in San Francisco circles for being "hooked up" to anything interesting cooking on the West Coast.

"My dad said these dudes are offering this money to take Michael Jackson down. And the guy [Mitteager] said, 'Say he touched you. All you have to do is say it. But you might have to take the stand. You might have to go on 'Oprah' in front of all these people. You have to be prepared for this thing. Just say it. And we'll give you money,'" Newt said.

Two pieces of evidence confirm the Newts' story. One is the actual contract proffered by the Enquirer and signed by Perel, who declined to comment for this story.

The contract, written as a letter, says it's an agreement between the tabloid and the Newts for their exclusive story regarding "your relationship with and knowledge of Michael Jackson, and his sexuality, your knowledge of Michael Jackson's sexual contact and attempts at sexual contact with Robert Newt and others."

Mitteager expected them to sign, even though it was completely untrue and there was, in fact, no story.

He knew you were lying, I reminded Bobby Newt.

"Exactly! And he didn't care! He was like, 'Just say it and we'll give you the money.' And I was like, 'He [Jackson] never touched me!" Newt said. "He [Mitteager] was really fishing and really digging. Think about it — most people you say it to, 'We'll give you this money,' even [if it's not true]. And they'd take it."

Bobby Newt recalled more details of the 30-minute meeting with The National Enquirer's reporter:

"He was trying to coach me — if I decided to take the money, what would happen. He said 'You know, it's going to be a huge scandal. You'll probably have a lot of people not liking you. You're going to be famous!' But to me, you'd be ruined. And the truth is Michael didn't do anything even close to trying to molest us."

Ironically, the second piece of evidence also backs up the Newts' story. Unbeknownst to them, they were taped by Mitteager.

I told you last week that Mitteager did more surreptitious taping than Richard Nixon. When he died, the tapes were left to Hollywood investigator Paul Barresi. His dozens of hours of tapes include a conversation between Mitteager, Ron Newt Sr. and Charlie Walker.

When I read some of the transcript back to Newt the other day, he was shocked.

"I said all that," he observed, surprised to have his memory prodded some 12 years later.

Back in the mid-'80s, Ron Newt Sr. put his three sons together as a singing group much as Joseph Jackson did. He called them The Newtrons.

After much pushing, he got the attention of Joe Jackson, who agreed to manage the group. Joe Jackson got the Newtrons a showcase at the Roxy in West Hollywood.

Michael showed up and loved them. The result was a two-week stay for the boys at the Encino house on Hayvenhurst Ave., where they were supposed to work on their music.

"We would see Michael in passing. We didn't see him, maybe, because he was working on an album. We saw him downstairs in the kitchen and we talked to him," he said.

The Newtrons eventually got a record contract and recorded the Jackson 5 hit "I Want You Back" at Hayvenhurst. They also spent the night at Tito Jackson's house. But nothing about what Bobby Newt hears now about himself or others makes sense.

"I don't know what to believe. He had prime time with me and my brother in the guest room for two weeks," he said. "And he didn't try anything."

As a footnote to all of this: In the small world of the Los Angeles music business, Bobby Newt recently worked with choreographer and alleged Jackson "victim" Wade Robson on tracks for his first album, a potential hit compendium of original R&B ballads.

Jackson's former maid Blanca Francia implicated Robson in the case during Monday's testimony. Robson is not testifying for the prosecution.

"Wade is straight as they come. He's getting married. And nothing ever happened to him, either," Newt said.

He shakes his head, thinking about those who have made claims against Jackson.

"You have to look at these people, go back and see when their relationship with Michael fractured. The calls stopped coming," he said.

And Newt should know. After the adventure in 1985, the Newts never saw Jackson again. It didn't bother them, Bobby says, as much as it might have others.

"They probably didn't like it. And this is their way of getting back at him," he said.

http://www.foxnews.com/st...08,00.html

Timmy84 said:

I don't know anything about that obviously i missed something, I haven't logged in for days, have they buried the man?

seeingvoices12 said:

No they'll bury him Friday.

bboy87 said:

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Damn I didn't see this. See how low people get to get others to talk about something sensationalized about MJ.

EmeraldSkies said:

same here

Timmy84 said:

???

i think the surgery made him look more effeminate so more like his mom
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yeah i dont get that surgery comment either, mj did NOT ever look like joe.

we need a NAME THAT JACKSON QUIZ i bet i'd fail it
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tangerine7 said:

me too!

whatsgoingon said:

why do people always say marlon was lighter. he looked the same color as all the other brothers. now latoya WAS lighter.







i see no difference

^ Tito is fine as hell in that frst picture you posted.

this is such a cute picture of paris. i have to say she was kinda funny looking when she was little. but she had her moments, like this one. thank god she's grown into her looks now.

Does anyone think its just plain weird how the funeral keeps getting delayed?

Now its September 3 or 4 or whatever.

What could be making them delay the event?

Lou Ferrigno said that MJ used to throw Mannequins into ambulances to fool the press.

Perhaps that's why this whole investigation makes no sense, and his family could care less about him being buried because something is seriously wrong about the whole situation.

And lets not forget that Roger Freidman called on TMZ's stupidity a few days ago, b/c they were punk'd with MJ documents.
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suga10 said:

Please don't fall into that "he faked his death"trap

babybugz said:

I didn't before although I can't say I'm totally believing the hoax stuff quite yet, lets just say that there could be a possibility 1/10 maybe, but now I"m finding it very weird that his family isn't even giving a damn about getting him buried. Who behaves this way????? Why do they keep delaying his burial over and over again? If he's not buried anytime soon, then the family is hiding something or not being honest about something. I'm just trying to keep an open mind.

I don't fall for the Elvis and Tupac stuff, but with Michael Jackson anything is possible, b/c he has lived an eccentric and untypical life.
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Paris is so pretty. Love her!

EmeraldSkies said: