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Thread started 08/28/09 8:07am

scriptgirl

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How would you rate Sly Stone as a songwriter?

Is he one of the greats? I think so, just wanted to hear what you guys thought
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Reply #1 posted 08/28/09 9:07am

diamondpearl1

scriptgirl said:

Is he one of the greats? I think so, just wanted to hear what you guys thought

Is Sly "One of the greats"? Well, lesse he created one of the first multiracial/gender bands in music.....brought counterculture to r&b.....
Introduced the slap bass guitar technique that changed rhythm sections for years to come.....oh yeah and he also wrote a couple of tunes like.....
"Dance To The Music"
I Wanna Take You Higher"
"Stand"
"Don't Call Me Nigger, Whitey"
"You Caught Me Smilin"
"You Can Make It If You Try"
"Hot Fun In The Summertime"
"Everybody Is A Star"
"Thank You Fa Lettin Me Be Myself Again"
"Everyday People"
"Family Affair"
"If You Want Me To Stay"
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Reply #2 posted 08/28/09 11:22am

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I thin it might be his arrangements that stand out more than anything
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Reply #3 posted 08/28/09 12:37pm

AVENUEMAN

I tend to really love some of the more obscure Sly tunes.....like "Mother Beautiful", "Can't Strain My Brain" etc. Brilliant horn arrangements!
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Reply #4 posted 08/28/09 12:41pm

Timmy84

A great songwriter/composer.
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Reply #5 posted 08/28/09 4:20pm

SPYZFAN1

There's R&B before Sly and after Sly. There's a difference. A lot of things Sly did back then paved the way for everything we've heard in R&B, soul, pop and funk rock (in the 80's and 90's).

We all know he influenced Miles, P, Herbie Hancock, George Clinton and so many others. He had a great knack for combining all kinds of elements in his songs and making them memorable.

His stuff still holds up today.
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Reply #6 posted 08/28/09 4:24pm

Timmy84

SPYZFAN1 said:

There's R&B before Sly and after Sly. There's a difference. A lot of things Sly did back then paved the way for everything we've heard in R&B, soul, pop and funk rock (in the 80's and 90's).

We all know he influenced Miles, P, Herbie Hancock, George Clinton and so many others. He had a great knack for combining all kinds of elements in his songs and making them memorable.

His stuff still holds up today.


This. nod
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Reply #7 posted 08/28/09 4:30pm

midiscover

Off the charts!!

He's incredible! love
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Reply #8 posted 08/28/09 8:01pm

sunlite

One of America's greatest musical treasures. Sly was before his time. Which may be why he showed up late sometimes and others not at all!
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Reply #9 posted 08/28/09 8:03pm

Timmy84

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One of America's greatest musical treasures. Sly was before his time. Which may be why he showed up late sometimes and others not at all!


I swear, if you listen to his 1970s recordings, they sound like they were just recorded! lol His genius is that scary!
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Reply #10 posted 08/28/09 9:28pm

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Definitely one of the greatest songwriters. He was a clever lyricist, with(at the time) very outspoken beliefs and had the balls to make songs like "don't call me nigger whitey". Even today you won't here a pop artist make that shit! he showed an ability to craft great catchy tunes, but was inconsistent as he plunged into drug addiction(had he not I think he could've rivalled SW in making catchy yet complex pop songs in the 70's).
Did Prince ever deny he had sex with his sister? I believe not. So there U have it..
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Reply #11 posted 08/28/09 10:41pm

scriptgirl

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Is the cd "Small Talk" worth getting?
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Reply #12 posted 08/29/09 4:19am

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scriptgirl said:

Is the cd "Small Talk" worth getting?

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Reply #13 posted 08/29/09 12:57pm

scriptgirl

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Is that one of the last albums he did?
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Reply #14 posted 08/29/09 1:11pm

Timmy84

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Is that one of the last albums he did?


No he put out some more stuff after that including 1975's High on You. I think his last solo album was in '83.
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Reply #15 posted 08/29/09 8:35pm

scriptgirl

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thanks-was small talk the last "family"cd?
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Reply #16 posted 08/29/09 8:36pm

Timmy84

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thanks-was small talk the last "family"cd?


Technically? Yeah.
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Reply #17 posted 08/30/09 8:55am

SPYZFAN1

"High On You" 1975- Classic and underrated. The "solo" LP.

"Heard You Missed Me" 1976 - Weak. Sly's bland attempt of a pop LP. But it's a must have for the Sly-ologists. He toured for this record going on after Bootsy and before P-Funk in 76.

"Back On The Right Track" 1979 - Soulful and funky.

"Ain't But The One Way" 1980 or 1983 - This LP was blasted buy the critics but I love it. The 44 second song "Sylvester" is the highlight of the CD.

"Remember Who You Are" 1994 - Reissue of "Back On The Right Track". Remasterd with cool liner notes.

"Backtracks" 1999 - Remixes of some of the jams from "Back On The Right Track" plus some of S.&.T.F.S songs from the mid 60's. Bobby Freeman's "Swim" (that Sly produced) is included too.
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Reply #18 posted 08/30/09 5:43pm

scriptgirl

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Thanks!
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