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Thread started 09/30/09 10:16am

daPrettyman

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Question for you recording/engineering/experts

I was listening to Millie Jackson on the radio here in Dallas and heard her mention that she sent some of her master recordings out to be "baked". Can someone explain that to me. I have done a little searching and cannot find a clear answer.

She brought it up when the story came out about some J5 recordings that were recently discovered. The story she read said that a few of the tapes had deteriorated and may not be able to be saved. She then said that the masters could be sent to a studio and be baked. She said she did that with her master recordings, but only after she discovered that needed to get one of the tracks transferred and the engineer at the recording studio suggested that she bake her masters.
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Reply #1 posted 09/30/09 12:06pm

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This "baking" process was also mentioned when we discussed Prince´s vault and his master tapes here at the org. As far as I know, you can only bake tapes once and then they´re pretty much destroyed, so you bake them and save what´s on them.

Prince´s engineer in the mid 90s, Hans Martin Buff, spoke about this in an interview years ago.He said that a lot of old tapes are deteriorating and that Prince should do something about it before it´s too late.
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Reply #2 posted 09/30/09 12:29pm

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Here's a very detailed explanation of how and why analog tape breaks down over time and an interesting baking technique that a good friend of mine did:
http://www.tangible-techn...king1.html


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Reply #3 posted 09/30/09 1:13pm

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Thanx! biggrin
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Reply #4 posted 09/30/09 7:54pm

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daPrettyman said:

Thanx! biggrin

You're very welcome.

Eddie Ciletti (pronounced Chill-Let-tea) has been a high-end repair technician and a writer for many recording magazines.
Currently the Tech's Files column in MIX magazine.

He also has started teaching recording techniques in Minnesota.


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Reply #5 posted 09/30/09 8:24pm

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theAudience said:

daPrettyman said:

Thanx! biggrin

You're very welcome.

Eddie Ciletti (pronounced Chill-Let-tea) has been a high-end repair technician and a writer for many recording magazines.
Currently the Tech's Files column in MIX magazine.

He also has started teaching recording techniques in Minnesota.


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That's cool to know. I'm going to forward this link to Millie Jackson. She would be happy to know this.
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Reply #6 posted 10/01/09 1:35pm

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daPrettyman said:

theAudience said:


You're very welcome.

Eddie Ciletti (pronounced Chill-Let-tea) has been a high-end repair technician and a writer for many recording magazines.
Currently the Tech's Files column in MIX magazine.

He also has started teaching recording techniques in Minnesota.


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That's cool to know. I'm going to forward this link to Millie Jackson. She would be happy to know this.

More info from Mr. Ciletti...

Neal


thanks for the props! You should know tho, that tapes can be baked
multiple times and, I can't say how many because I haven't yet met the
wall. This a is a good thing considering the varied approaches to
reviving old masters during and after the transfer. For example, I am
fairly certain that The Beatles tapes didn't suffer from this problem,
but obviously each transfer - and all the archaeological digging - seems
to yield better results.

eddie

...Hope this helps.

He teaches at these 2 locations:
http://www.ipr.edu/
http://www.mastersrecording.com/


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Reply #7 posted 10/01/09 2:45pm

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theAudience said:

daPrettyman said:


That's cool to know. I'm going to forward this link to Millie Jackson. She would be happy to know this.

More info from Mr. Ciletti...

Neal


thanks for the props! You should know tho, that tapes can be baked
multiple times and, I can't say how many because I haven't yet met the
wall. This a is a good thing considering the varied approaches to
reviving old masters during and after the transfer. For example, I am
fairly certain that The Beatles tapes didn't suffer from this problem,
but obviously each transfer - and all the archaeological digging - seems
to yield better results.

eddie

...Hope this helps.

He teaches at these 2 locations:
http://www.ipr.edu/
http://www.mastersrecording.com/


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peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

That was very helpful.
Thanx
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