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Reply #150 posted 08/10/09 12:06pm

suga10

Diddy said to Letterman that MJ wanted to dance with Beyonce at his party (obviously he had a crush on her), so there goes the theory that he doesn't like black girls.
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Reply #151 posted 08/10/09 12:07pm

BoOTyLiCioUs

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Karen71 said:



Michael admitted to the drug addiction YEARS ago--and gave a public statement about his trip to rehab to address it.

Here's the real problem: There has been NO definitive proof of child abuse. I'm willing to bet that if such a video surfaced, he would lose the personal respect of all.


isn't that the problem with most child abuse cases? there is no definitive proof? it's the word of a child against the word of an adult? an adult who may have money for good lawyers and be able to play mental tricks on kids to keep them quiet?

did MJ hide his homosexuality as he was convinced the world would turn against him if he came out as the person he really was? was the world in love with who the thought MJ was, instead of the real MJ?


Even if there is no evidence such as physical, you can still tell by the child's behavior. For example, when I was sexually abused as child, my dad said he noticed in pictures and in general that i didn't smile like i used to. I also noticed during the time i was being abused, i became overweight and over ate. I was very healthy before the abuse happened. So with Gavin as being a cancer victim, even if something had happened between them, his health would of gotten worse and he wouldn't of been cured of cancer.
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Reply #152 posted 08/10/09 12:07pm

Timmy84

suga10 said:

Diddy said MJ had a crush on Beyonce, so there goes the theory that he doesn't like black girls.


Plus Stephanie Mills said she and MJ briefly dated.
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Reply #153 posted 08/10/09 12:08pm

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Speaking of Diana Ross she's been notably silent since MJ's death. Has she said anything about him since he was arrested in 2003?
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Reply #154 posted 08/10/09 12:08pm

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I remember in an interview where he declared that the most wonderful thing to do is share a bed with a child. This was it for me I couldn't stand him after that. Imagine all the pedophiles out there lapping that up. Yuck!
When I heard he died I really didn't give a shit & I still don't!
I only feel sorry for his children - I hope they find happiness.

FOCUS PEOPLE MJ WAS NOT THE KING OF POP!


The most wonderful thing is to share your bed with an adult! Grown Male of Female could have rocked his world. They could have even dressed up like a child to turn him on as well.


You have grown ass dwarfs and midgets that could fit in his damn sleeping bag. They would have enjoyed drinking Jesus juice with his ass. confused
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Reply #155 posted 08/10/09 12:08pm

Timmy84

dearmother said:

StillDirrty said:


I told y'all imo he loves the white girls. To me that is his sexual preference.



i wonder about stephanie mills and diana ross and there was some other black woman i saw on tv, can't remember her name. it is odd that he never came out and professed his love for those people.


He professed his love for Diana, lol.
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Reply #156 posted 08/10/09 12:09pm

BoOTyLiCioUs

midnightmover said:

BoOTyLiCioUs said:



reread what i wrote. I know it is hard to understand because of the sand in your head but REREAD WHAT I WROTE.

This just shows what a confused thinker you are. Here is what you said..... "u mean you got an orgnote from OldTeenager? How is joking about pedophillia and/or sexual assault/rape ok or funny ever? Answer that question for me."

You are asking me to explain how joking about paedophilia is funny when I never said it was. lol What's funny is just how much of a scatterbrain you are. Even worse, you will undoubtedly read this post and still not understand how silly you've just been.


i was implying that she sent you the orgnote because she has been very vocal in her opinions and her opinions about mj fans. go and take your meds midnight mover.
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Reply #157 posted 08/10/09 12:09pm

StillDirrty

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i wonder about stephanie mills and diana ross and there was some other black woman i saw on tv, can't remember her name. it is odd that he never came out and professed his love for those people.

He did for Diana Ross. But was her husband white? MJ claimed that he was jealous when she got married. But still, I think he preferred them. Like in the Bashir documentary some girl asks for hug and he says something like I'll give you more than a hug. This girl was NOT cute! & then the crazy fan video, it looks like he gets it up after she puts her head in his crotch that girl was white. So many. He liked Beyonce supposedly but many claim her as a black girl who tries to look white. & who knows what other girls. I don't care if that is his preference it just seems obvious to me that is what he liked.
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Reply #158 posted 08/10/09 12:09pm

Timmy84

midnightmover said:

Speaking of Diana Ross she's been notably silent since MJ's death. Has she said anything about him since he was arrested in 2003?


Not really but she DID say in 2007 that she loved him and she believed that he was one of the most talented people she ever met. She has kept in private because she didn't wanna mourn publicly at his memorial.
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Reply #159 posted 08/10/09 12:11pm

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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

midnightmover said:


This just shows what a confused thinker you are. Here is what you said..... "u mean you got an orgnote from OldTeenager? How is joking about pedophillia and/or sexual assault/rape ok or funny ever? Answer that question for me."

You are asking me to explain how joking about paedophilia is funny when I never said it was. lol What's funny is just how much of a scatterbrain you are. Even worse, you will undoubtedly read this post and still not understand how silly you've just been.


i was implying that she sent you the orgnote because she has been very vocal in her opinions and her opinions about mj fans. go and take your meds midnight mover.

Just totally dodged the point I see. I take this as a good sign. It means you are smart enough to know you embarrassed yourself.
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Reply #160 posted 08/10/09 12:11pm

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Timmy84 said:

StillDirrty said:


I don't know the details all I know is that she was OBVIOUSLY lying.


From Michael's mouth: "She unbuttoned my shirt and I just covered my eyes and she stopped and just walked out, she knew I wasn't ready."


No one wants to have relations with a grown ass man acting childish!
Pussy intimidated Michael as to where little boys he could relate to didn't! cool
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Reply #161 posted 08/10/09 12:16pm

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He did for Diana Ross. But was her husband white? MJ claimed that he was jealous when she got married. But still, I think he preferred them. Like in the Bashir documentary some girl asks for hug and he says something like I'll give you more than a hug. This girl was NOT cute! & then the crazy fan video, it looks like he gets it up after she puts her head in his crotch that girl was white. So many. He liked Beyonce supposedly but many claim her as a black girl who tries to look white. & who knows what other girls. I don't care if that is his preference it just seems obvious to me that is what he liked.


honestly i dont know much about what all he's said on diana personally about being in love. as for fans when a camera's rolling, he's just feeding off attention from those (lots of white) girls, who wouldn't!! i tend to ignore it. his videos i think feature darker skinned girls. but again that's for his image

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Reply #162 posted 08/10/09 12:17pm

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Timmy84 said:

midnightmover said:

Speaking of Diana Ross she's been notably silent since MJ's death. Has she said anything about him since he was arrested in 2003?


Not really but she DID say in 2007 that she loved him and she believed that he was one of the most talented people she ever met. She has kept in private because she didn't wanna mourn publicly at his memorial.


Katherine Jackson and Diana Ross didn't get along at all!
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Reply #163 posted 08/10/09 12:19pm

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OldTeenager said:

Timmy84 said:



Not really but she DID say in 2007 that she loved him and she believed that he was one of the most talented people she ever met. She has kept in private because she didn't wanna mourn publicly at his memorial.


Katherine Jackson and Diana Ross didn't get along at all!



Why??
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Reply #164 posted 08/10/09 12:20pm

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cuteness
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Reply #165 posted 08/10/09 12:21pm

BoOTyLiCioUs

midnightmover said:

BoOTyLiCioUs said:



i was implying that she sent you the orgnote because she has been very vocal in her opinions and her opinions about mj fans. go and take your meds midnight mover.

Just totally dodged the point I see. I take this as a good sign. It means you are smart enough to know you embarrassed yourself.


no you are embrassing urself...proving that you are senile.
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Reply #166 posted 08/10/09 12:21pm

StillDirrty

He has paraded white women only. How many know about his relationship with Stephanie Mills? Only older people. I wouldn't showcase her either she's not pretty. But then again he married ugly ass Debbie Rowe! He hit on Katie Couric! I heard a rumor that he hit on botoxed Nicole Kidman! I mean wth! How is it that he finds Lisa Marie to be the most beautiful girl ever and not Tatiana who blows her out of the water? I don't get it.
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Reply #167 posted 08/10/09 12:21pm

Timmy84

OldTeenager said:

Timmy84 said:



Not really but she DID say in 2007 that she loved him and she believed that he was one of the most talented people she ever met. She has kept in private because she didn't wanna mourn publicly at his memorial.


Katherine Jackson and Diana Ross didn't get along at all!


That's because Katherine felt Diana was a wrong influence on MJ allegedly. Diana has never had any physical contact with Katherine because she didn't wanna cause trouble. Apparently Katherine was jealous that Michael was spending all that time in Diana's home during the building interim of the career of the Jackson 5. She had nothing to worry about though: Diana wasn't very sociable back then. I think this was according to Randy Taraborelli...I think.

Not saying this is true but if you're reading from that book, I can see how you can say that.
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Reply #168 posted 08/10/09 12:22pm

Timmy84

StillDirrty said:

He has paraded white women only. How many know about his relationship with Stephanie Mills? Only older people. I wouldn't showcase her either she's not pretty. But then again he married ugly ass Debbie Rowe! He hit on Katie Couric! I heard a rumor that he hit on botoxed Nicole Kidman! I mean wth! How is it that he finds Lisa Marie to be the most beautiful girl ever and not Tatiana who blows her out of the water? I don't get it.


Have you seen Stephanie recently? She's FAR more beautiful than the women he allegedly hit on. nod
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Reply #169 posted 08/10/09 12:25pm

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just b/c you parade someone (especially an attractive celebb) around doesn't mean youre more attracted to those people, its superficial
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Reply #170 posted 08/10/09 12:26pm

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that stephanie mills convo blows my mind though, but that was so long ago so who knows. he was only 19 or so
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Reply #171 posted 08/10/09 12:28pm

Timmy84

dearmother said:

just b/c you parade someone (especially an attractive celebb) around doesn't mean youre more attracted to those people, its superficial


Exactly. I doubt he was really in love with these women even if he says he was. The women he was in love with didn't get talked about as much. He thought he was in love with Diana but he says he was childish in believing his love for her was genuine. He still admired the lady to his dying day, i.e., the will.
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Reply #172 posted 08/10/09 12:29pm

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Timmy84 said:

OldTeenager said:



Katherine Jackson and Diana Ross didn't get along at all!


That's because Katherine felt Diana was a wrong influence on MJ allegedly. Diana has never had any physical contact with Katherine because she didn't wanna cause trouble. Apparently Katherine was jealous that Michael was spending all that time in Diana's home during the building interim of the career of the Jackson 5. She had nothing to worry about though: Diana wasn't very sociable back then. I think this was according to Randy Taraborelli...I think.

Not saying this is true but if you're reading from that book, I can see how you can say that.


Half of the time Diana wouldn't even put Michael on the phone when Katherine called. I believed some hanky panky was going on. Mrs. Katherine didn't like it. Diana was putting it on Michael he probably didn't know if he was cumin or going! It took him a while to get over her. razz I would have put it on his ass too, she was doing her job! rolleyes lol
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Reply #173 posted 08/10/09 12:29pm

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StillDirrty said:

He has paraded white women only. How many know about his relationship with Stephanie Mills? Only older people. I wouldn't showcase her either she's not pretty. But then again he married ugly ass Debbie Rowe! He hit on Katie Couric! I heard a rumor that he hit on botoxed Nicole Kidman! I mean wth! How is it that he finds Lisa Marie to be the most beautiful girl ever and not Tatiana who blows her out of the water? I don't get it.


Well his chef Kai Chase (employed recently) said he was flirting with her a bit.


wink

He told the kids to tell her that he was going to bring Kai with him to London smile
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Reply #174 posted 08/10/09 12:30pm

StillDirrty

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just b/c you parade someone (especially an attractive celebb) around doesn't mean youre more attracted to those people, its superficial

But Brooke says that he proposed to her several times. & on those phone tapes he says that Tatum had "his nose wide open & he knew that she was playing him." & then there's LMP whom he LOVED. Tatiana claims that they dated but he kept it on the low, (if it's true). Why?


She is gorgeous!
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Reply #175 posted 08/10/09 12:32pm

StillDirrty

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Well his chef Kai Chase (employed recently) said he was flirting with her a bit.


wink

That is true. She's much better looking than the other women he was linked to in his later years. I mean I don't think he didn't like black women I just think he had a preference for white women.
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Reply #176 posted 08/10/09 12:32pm

Timmy84

OldTeenager said:

Timmy84 said:



That's because Katherine felt Diana was a wrong influence on MJ allegedly. Diana has never had any physical contact with Katherine because she didn't wanna cause trouble. Apparently Katherine was jealous that Michael was spending all that time in Diana's home during the building interim of the career of the Jackson 5. She had nothing to worry about though: Diana wasn't very sociable back then. I think this was according to Randy Taraborelli...I think.

Not saying this is true but if you're reading from that book, I can see how you can say that.


Half of the time Diana wouldn't even put Michael on the phone when Katherine called. I believed some hanky panky was going on. Mrs. Katherine didn't like it. Diana was putting it on Michael he probably didn't know if he was cumin or going! It took him a while to get over her. razz I would have put it on his ass too, she was doing her job! rolleyes lol


You really believed Diana molested Michael? eek Remember he was 11 when he and Marlon (apparently) were living with her. I doubt that seriously. confused Plus she was in a strange relationship with Berry Gordy (they were still fucking at the time).
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Reply #177 posted 08/10/09 12:32pm

Timmy84

StillDirrty said:

suga10 said:



Well his chef Kai Chase (employed recently) said he was flirting with her a bit.


wink

That is true. She's much better looking than the other women he was linked to in his later years. I mean I don't think he didn't like black women I just think he had a preference for white women.


Oops, sorry I misread your post but I still doubt he had a preference.
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Reply #178 posted 08/10/09 12:36pm

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StillDirrty said:


But Brooke says that he proposed to her several times. & on those phone tapes he says that Tatum had "his nose wide open & he knew that she was playing him."


i thought he was talking about diana at that point? those tapes are so confusing!
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Reply #179 posted 08/10/09 12:40pm

StillDirrty

Timmy84 said:



Oops, sorry I misread your post but I still doubt he had a preference.

That's ok. I feel bad. I always have defended Michael when people say that he wanted to be white. But sometimes I ask myself, "what is his obsession with white people?" confuse But then again David Guest did say that he had a crush on Kelly Rowland but I chose not to believe him because he also claimed that he liked to listen to Eminem. Maybe it's true considering they were friends but eh....
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