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Reply #60 posted 08/02/09 4:06am

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LoveIsTheMessage said:

shorttrini said:

Do you know what the meaning of the word, falsetto means? It literally means, "False Voice". People who sing soprano are really singing in that high octave. It is when they go into that that lower octave, that they are singing in a falsetto, because that is not their normal voice. Think of Prince's vocals on "Daddy Pop", some of that song or most of it, is sung falsetto, because it is not his "real voice".

Wrong. The falsetto is above the modal range, not below it. Singers use the falsetto when the go above their normal modal voice.
All males can sing in falsetto, but not all their falsettos sound a like. A bass singer going above his modal voice into falsetto, for example, will most likely produce a lower falsetto than a tenor voice going into falsetto.
Some singers (countertenors) sing in soprano range using the falsetto.
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I took voice for 20 years and while researching the response to the original question, my voice teacher said, while it is usually singing in a "higher than normal voice", it still means false voice, so when Prince sings, in the lower register at the opening of "Daddy Pop", he is actually singing falsetto.
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Reply #61 posted 08/02/09 5:51am

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shorttrini said:

LoveIsTheMessage said:


Wrong. The falsetto is above the modal range, not below it. Singers use the falsetto when the go above their normal modal voice.
All males can sing in falsetto, but not all their falsettos sound a like. A bass singer going above his modal voice into falsetto, for example, will most likely produce a lower falsetto than a tenor voice going into falsetto.
Some singers (countertenors) sing in soprano range using the falsetto.
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I took voice for 20 years and while researching the response to the original question, my voice teacher said, while it is usually singing in a "higher than normal voice", it still means false voice, so when Prince sings, in the lower register at the opening of "Daddy Pop", he is actually singing falsetto.

I'd like to know where your voice teacher got that impression.
See, the difference between the falsetto and the modal voice is the amount of involvement from the vocal cords. In falsetto, the edges of the vocal cords vibrate, whereas in modal voice, the whole vocal cord is involved.

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When going into lower register, I don't believe the same effect is achieved.

I've never heard anyone claim that the term falsetto would be applied to someone going into deeper register. The general, and widely accepted, usage of the term always refers to someone going into higher register.

In any case, thanks for your input, even if we don't agree on this one. It's interesting because, like I said, I've never heard anyone use the term falsetto in that context.
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Reply #62 posted 08/02/09 4:04pm

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Reply #63 posted 08/02/09 4:23pm

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Don't forget, Russell Thompkins of 'The Stylistics' smile

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Reply #64 posted 08/02/09 4:36pm

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Don't forget, Russell Thompkins of 'The Stylistics' smile

http://www.youtube.com/wa...vh7kbUAJ_4



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Reply #65 posted 08/02/09 5:47pm

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Reply #66 posted 08/03/09 1:41am

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Reply #67 posted 08/03/09 3:14am

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TD3 said:

Don't forget, Russell Thompkins of 'The Stylistics' smile

http://www.youtube.com/wa...vh7kbUAJ_4



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Reply #68 posted 08/20/09 3:15pm

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El DeBarge (he's my favorite after Prince).


El DeBarge, Johnny Gill, Whitney Houston and Kenny Lattimore tribute Luther Vandross Medley 1999:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...fc8g1-H-1Y

El at the piano singing with his Mama and Deniece Williams:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...a5IgNyJbjU

I Like it live1997:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...s1vx1VA70Y

El at the piano, sings a spiritual then goes into Heart Mind and Soul:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...q76FgnfKuc

Babyface with El DeBarge live You Are So Beautiful:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...95hf4IhEGQ

Phil Perry doing El Debarge's "All This Love":
http://www.youtube.com/wa...EsRFdHpXGA
Phil Perry You Make Me Feel Brand New:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...fbSvbQiSqU

Maxwell This Woman's Work live (this is incredible he sounds just as good as the album version... Prince, can he sing live Love 2 the 9s or Strollin or Pink Cashmere, the full song just as it is on the cd?):
http://www.youtube.com/wa...JYxc5ftEzg

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