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Reply #600 posted 07/15/09 2:48pm

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anyone have or ever read this?
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P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!! whistle
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Michael Jackson's Indelible Pop Legacy
July 2009


Trying to trace Michael Jackson's influence on the pop stars that followed him is like trying to trace the influence of oxygen and gravity. So vast, far-reaching and was his impact — particularly in the wake of Thriller's colossal and heretofore unmatched commercial success — that there weren't a whole lot of artists who weren't trying to mimic some of the Jackson formula.

In a way, such appropriation is fitting. After all, Jackson himself was a borrower. He wasn't content to make a pop record or a dance record. Instead, he wanted everything, combining rock guitar with R&B rhythms, disco strings and the funk of 40,000 years. The production on "Wanna Be Startin' Something" is still baffling and magnificent, fusing a stuttering R&B bassline with traditional African call-and-response chants. Who was doing that then? And — even more notable — who's thought to do it since?

While Jackson will never have an equal, he's always had a steady string of disciples, ready and willing to apply his innovations to their own particular craft. Here's a rundown of the pop stars who pay homage and contemporaries who did some borrowing from the King's arsenal:

Pop Protégés:

Justin Timberlake: Timberlake followed Jackson's career arc like it was the KLF's The Manual: start out as the cute one in a precious, loveable boy band, gradually develop a personality that eclipses and then surpasses your fellow group members, and finally launch an ambitious and wildly successful solo career. If Timberlake's first record owed a too-obvious debt to Jackson (play "Rock Your Body" and "Rock With You" back-to-back sometime), he quickly grew past simple mimicry, crafting a follow-up that dabbled in multiple genres without owing a clear debt to any.

Usher: The first and most obvious Jackson follower of the '90s, Usher possessed both a distinctive voice and laser-precise dancing ability. But what worked for Usher was his ability — like Jackson's — to move beyond simple pop balladry and develop a pure, singular artistic vision (and dance like a smooth criminal). Like Thriller, Usher's Confessions embraced a plethora of styles, opening with a searing crunk classic and slowly giving way to a series of raw, searching ballads. His voice has grown with age, from a clipped squeak to a smooth, elegant croon. Usher has borrowed Jackson's best elements, beginning with simple, low-maintenance pop songs and gradually evolving into an artist of stature and class.

Ne-Yo: And speaking of stature and class: Ne-Yo is contemporary soul's author-in-residence. In addition to his own string of hits, Ne-Yo has co-written chart-toppers for other pop stars, chief among them: Beyoncé's "Irreplaceable." Ne-Yo projects maturity and panache, but his best moments — like the gentle ballad "So Sick" or the whip-crack dance number "Nobody" — could have been lifted from any of Jackson's early records. The way Ne-Yo clips and dishes his croon across old-school R&B rhythms is vintage Michael, and his prowess with the pen could easily find him penning this generation's "We Are the World."

Kanye West: Jackson's influence on hip-hop may be harder to trace, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. Of all of hip-hop's current stars, only West possesses Jackson's knack for allowing a singular vision to yield huge commercial dividends. West has Jackson's superstar drive, the consuming desire to do everything bigger and better than anyone before him, and the ability to bring a very particular vision to a mass audience. Like Jackson, West is enamored of the spectacle: the scope and grandeur of his Glow in the Dark Tour was positively Jackson-esque, and his ability to sell hip-hop — in massive quantities — to a pop crowd rivals what Jackson did for R&B.

Beyoncé: Cue up any given track on B'Day, whether the stuttering "Get Me Bodied" or the searing "Ring the Alarm," and hear Michael Jackson's trickle-down effect. Her contemporaries may have Jackson's pop flair, but only Beyoncé possesses his fierceness. The spry toughness of "Survivor" and "Independent Women" are distant cousins to Jackson's darker, meaner numbers (like "Dirty Diana" or "Give it to Me"), and Beyoncé's gradual transformation from bright-eyed ingenue to the new First Lady of Soul rivals Jackson's own ascent to power.

Chris Brown: Unlike Usher, Chris Brown's Jackson copycatting is far more shameless. Herky-jerk, borderline-impossible pop-and-lock dance moves? Check. White suit gangster chic? Check. Awards show stunt performances that often plunge into camp? Check. And now Brown is going to have to figure out how to pull off another Jackson stunt: return from controversy.


Canny Contemporaries:


New Edition: New Edition's debut arrived just one year after Thriller, and if their chirpy chipmunk R&B didn't quite have the same stature as Off the Wall, Jackson's work with his brothers was a clear predecessor to New Edition's pre-teen R&B. Skeptical? Cue up "Candy Girl" and tell us you don't find yourself singing "ABC" halfway through. The rest of the record is full of the kind of bright, brash, hyperkinetic pop music that Jackson was riding to the top of the charts, just pitch-shifted upward to suit the Jr. High set (we'll momentarily ignore the fact that the record contains a song called, uh, "She Gives Me a Bang"). Michael may have been well out of his boy band phase, but New Edition — and, hell, DeBarge, the New Kids on the Block and even Hanson — proved there was still gold in the hills he'd once mined.

Janet Jackson: It seems almost too obvious to mention, but Janet was certainly eyeing her big brother when she made her 1986 masterpiece Control. Like Thriller, Control is a product of collaboration; where Michael had Quincy Jones, Janet relied on Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis to shape her nervy, energetic pop. And, like Thriller, nearly every song on Control was a hit, from the corkscrewing floor-filler "Nasty" to the jubilant "When I Think of You." The two Jacksons competed for pop dominance throughout the 80s, the kind of sibling rivalry that yields the best kind of results: increasingly sharp and savvy pop music.

Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey: Houston and Carey may have mightier voices than Michael, but their debt to his dance-pop is unmistakable. Houston's debut contained the roaring Top 40 hit "How Will I Know," but it was her full embrace of Jacksonian rhythm on its follow-up that made her a pop superstar. Ditto for Carey, whose career came to life with the soaring, euphoric "Emotions." While both artists still tend to hew closely to the Big Ballad, their more energetic outings bear all of the King of Pop's trademark traits, and their willingness to apply their mighty pipes to decidedly radio-friendly fare fits Jackson's M.O. to a tee.

Classic Composers:

Marvin Gaye: Gaye's career obviously preceded Jackson's by a good 20 years, but by 1982 he was foundering. Lost in a spiral of drug abuse and self-loathing, releasing dated albums for a dwindling audience, Marvin needed a reinvention if he was going to maintain any measure of relevance. And reinvention is what he got: Gaye's Midnight Love is his final masterpiece, and it's not hard to hear it as a concerted effort to best all comers. Midnight Love finds the king of soul cautiously glancing over his shoulder at the young buck nipping at his heels. The album's sole hit, "Sexual Healing," is vintage Gaye, but the rest of it seems to take cues from Jackson's Off the Wall. "Rockin' After Midnight" and "Turn on Some Music" are sly, slippery R&B numbers that utilize the same kind of syncopation as Jackson's best hits, topping them with the kind of soulful vocal only a master can provide — proof positive that sometimes pioneers need help finding their footing.

Lionel Richie: Richie's legacy was established with the 20-ton funk hits he wrote and performed as part of the Commodores, but his transition into the pop milieu tended toward weepy balladry — that is until 1983's Can't Slow Down. Front-loaded with big, danceable singles like "All Night Long," Richie, too, seemed inspired by Jackson's move toward motion-friendly pop. And if Lionel's star eventually faded, the string of hits he produced in the '80s — among them "All Night Long" and "Dancing on the Ceiling" — seem unthinkable without Michael.

Cool Cousins:

LCD Soundsystem: Let's call Brooklyn's James Murphy the Michael Jackson of the eyeglass-&-T-shirt set. His records are prized by folks whose tastes tend toward the obscure, but it doesn't take much work to hear the King of Pop lurking the shadows of Murphy's finest songs. Like Jackson, Murphy has a fondness for disco and R&B, but he subtly inverts them, making alarmingly original compositions out of familiar musical memes. There's no mistaking the lineage of the propulsive rhythms on LCD songs like "Us v Them" and "Disco Infiltrator." Like Jackson, Murphy is also preoccupied with and terrified by the notion of aging — his best songs, "Losing My Edge" and "All My Friends," are sly meditations on how age dulls, crushing adolescent fantasies and replacing them with day-to-day drudgery. The video for his "New York I Love You But You're Bringing Me Down" even starred Kermit the Frog. LCD Soundsystem provide proof positive it's possible to love both Michael Jackson and New Order.

J.U.S.T.I.C.E.: Not only do the French dance duo share Jackson's affinity for quirky, infectious rhythms they actually name-drop "P.Y.T." in their own alphabetic masterpiece "D.A.N.C.E." The rest of the group's debut veers from glitchy electro to floor-filling techno, but they never lose their knack for a hook. Cue up the manic, screeching "Stress" and tell us you can't envision zombies rising from their graves, both band members transforming into werewolves as a whole new creature feature slowly unspools.

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Reply #602 posted 07/15/09 2:49pm

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MJ on the set of Free to Be You and Me (1974). smile
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Reply #603 posted 07/15/09 2:49pm

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Timmy84 said:




Seriously, what the hell is up with these Safari Hats!!!??? disbelief lol


Looks like Obama got some inspiration

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Reply #604 posted 07/15/09 2:50pm

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MJ on the set of Free to Be You and Me (1974). smile



oh now that makes me sad. cry
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Reply #606 posted 07/15/09 2:51pm

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Funny MJ's the one wearing an all-white tux. lol


lol!! hey he was the leader
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Reply #607 posted 07/15/09 2:51pm

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MJ pouring his heart out at a 1974 concert.
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Reply #608 posted 07/15/09 2:52pm

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Funny MJ's the one wearing an all-white tux. lol


lol!! hey he was the leader


Yeah yeah I know... giggle
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Reply #609 posted 07/15/09 2:55pm

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Reply #610 posted 07/15/09 2:56pm

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Reply #611 posted 07/15/09 2:57pm

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http://www.imeem.com/artists/the_jacksons/music/nresMTwh/the-jacksons-find-me-a-girl/

SING IT MICHAEL!

This was kinda the update of Jermaine's "I Found That Girl". Very Motown-esque I believe. cool

"What you gonna do!?"[/i] cool


[i]I'm gonna be real good to her
, One of the best slow jams Gamble & Huff ever worked on IMO
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Reply #612 posted 07/15/09 2:57pm

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Timmy84 said:

http://www.imeem.com/artists/the_jacksons/music/nresMTwh/the-jacksons-find-me-a-girl/

SING IT MICHAEL!

This was kinda the update of Jermaine's "I Found That Girl". Very Motown-esque I believe. cool

"What you gonna do!?"[/i] cool


[i]I'm gonna be real good to her
, One of the best slow jams Gamble & Huff ever worked on IMO


exclaim nod
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Reply #613 posted 07/15/09 2:58pm

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MJ performing in Jamaica around 1975.
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Reply #614 posted 07/15/09 2:59pm

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Another rare photo of the Jacksons in Jamaica:

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Reply #616 posted 07/15/09 3:01pm

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Another rare photo of the Jacksons in Jamaica:




Okay I'm sorry but...


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I can hardly see the dude on the left.
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Reply #617 posted 07/15/09 3:02pm

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Reply #618 posted 07/15/09 3:05pm

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The Jacksons w/Andy Warhol
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Reply #619 posted 07/15/09 3:06pm

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Neverland Ranch To Be Bought By French Designer
July 2009


The French fashion designer Christian Audigier is planning to buy pop icon Michael Jackson's fantasy themed Neverland Ranch.

According to reports , the designer who has provided his expertise to brands like Lee, Von Dutch and Tommy Hilfiger says he plans to create a Jackson's fantasy themed complex similar to Elvis Presley's Graceland and allow online tours, reported.

Audigier who rented Jackson the Holmby Hills house in LA where the star died told French TV, "I have decided to buy that house."

Colony Capital bought the California ranch in 2008 for 20 million pounds and is keen to sell. The ranch is said to be worth an estimated 60 million pounds, the Mirror reported.

The sprawling 5800 acre property, which Jackson named after J M Barrie's fictitious world of 'Peter Pan', is a symbol of Jackson's success and excesses.

The 'King of Pop' bought the property in 1988 from developer William Bone, who built the house on the property, then called Sycamore Valley Ranch.

The singer renamed the ranch as Neverland and turned it into a fairyland complete with trains and a zoo.

Jackson could not enjoy staying in his fantasy themed abode after being accused of child molestation in 1993. The singer moved to Bahrain following his acquittal in 2005.


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Reply #620 posted 07/15/09 3:10pm

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I believed Vitiligo to a certain degree but I have never known anyone that it spread to their whole body. Why lie about it this whole time?


It does indeed spread in some cases. One of my cousins has it, he is the last of 6 boys, none have it but him and it is all over his body. Just because you have never known it to happen, does not mean that it cannot and probably hasn't.

I know that but I have known many people with this and it has NEVER changed their race. If someone can show where an entire body changes from vitiligo, I'm open to accept it. So far nobody has done that and everyone who knows people with Vitiligo also have not seen the complete change in skin color.
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Reply #621 posted 07/15/09 3:11pm

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The full layout of the Thriller cover with the tiger cub on his knee.



I use to lay on my bedroom floor listening to to the LP,and staring at that for hours. I also believed that I was going to marry him. lol
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach
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Reply #622 posted 07/15/09 3:11pm

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I'm surprised bboy hasn't posted this yet.
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Reply #623 posted 07/15/09 3:12pm

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The full layout of the Thriller cover with the tiger cub on his knee.



I use to lay on my bedroom floor listening to to the LP,and staring at that for hours. I also believed that I was going to marry him. lol


lol

I heard Mary J. Blige say the same thing. I don't know if it was during Off the Wall or Thriller but she also thought she was going to marry him. lol
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Michael Jackson's Skin Condition - Vitiligo
July 2009


Michael Jackson’s skin condition has been reported to be vitiligo. Vitiligo causes the the skin to loose it’s pigmentation resulting in white patches.

There is no known cause for vitiligo though doctors and scientists suspect is may be due to an immune system disorder. It does seem to be more common in people with other autoimmune diseases such as lupus. It most often starts as it did with Michael Jackson before the age of 40.

Michael Jackson’s skin condition began as most vitiligo cases do with skin areas exposed to the sun. In his case, it is most often reported to have been his hand – hence the trademark sequin glove used to hide the patches and also to protect the skin from the sun. Other common sun-exposed areas affected besides the hands include the feet, arms, face and lips.

Vitiligo generally appears in one of three patterns:

Focal. Depigmentation is limited to one or a few areas of your body.

Segmental. Loss of skin color occurs on only one side of your body.

Generalized. Pigment loss is widespread across many parts of your body, often symmetrically.

The natural course of vitiligo is difficult to predict. The depigmented patches can stop forming without treatment, but most often the white areas spread and can eventually involve most of the surface of your skin.

It is important if you have the same skin problem as Michael Jackson (the vitiligo) to use sunscreen and protective clothing to protect your skin.

Treatments for vitiligo include medicines, light therapy and surgery. Not every treatment is right for everyone. Many have side effects. Some take a long time. Some do not always work.

Vitiligo affects all races, but may be more noticeable and disfiguring in people with darker skin. Vitiligo usually starts as small areas of pigment loss that spread with time. These changes in your skin can result in stress and worries about your appearance.

There is no cure for vitiligo. The goal of treatment is to stop or slow the progression of pigment loss and, if you desire, attempt to return some color to your skin.

You should see a physician for diagnosis and treatment if areas of you skin, hair, or eyes lose coloring. Though no cure exists for vitiligo, there are treatments available to help slow and sometimes stop the process of depigmentation.

Medical treatment begins with self-care steps, such as using sunscreen. Use of cosmetic camouflage cream may improve the appearance of your skin.

Treatment for vitiligo may take as long as six to 18 months, and you may have to try more than one treatment before you find the one that works best for you. You may be prescribed topical corticosteroid therapy or topical immunomodulators or photochemotherapy or oral psoralen photochemotherapy (oral PUVA) or Narrowband ultraviolet B (UVB) therapy.

Sometimes the best option is to attempt to depigment the remaining skin, especially if your vitiligo covers more than half your skin.

Vitiligo treatment choices are best discussed with your dermatologist. Remember to look for and seek comfort in support groups.


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Reply #625 posted 07/15/09 3:13pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

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Um, no. We have a knee jerk reaction from a fan who can't compute the fact that you can criticize the actions of a man and have sympathy for the children he left as orphans.


LOOk , through all the thread you have said Nothing informative and useful, you have been spearding bullshit all over the thread, Nothing useful, calling michael jackson mentaly ill and evil man and despite all that I didn't even bother to respond to your ridiculous posts, people like you have no right to criticize me , go do something useful and go play in traffic.

thank you utopia biggrin
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Just because they aren't useful to YOU doesn't invalidate my opinion that Michael Jackson was a ridiculously spoiled brat who drove himself to his own grave.

And MJ obviously had body dismorphia syndrome. Chopping your face apart is the hallmark of mental illness.

Now find a lane kneejerk lol
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Reply #626 posted 07/15/09 3:17pm

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Timmy84 said:


[Edited 7/15/09 14:40pm]


Awww! This reminds me of the skit he did with Roberta Flack. "When We Grow Up"
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Reply #627 posted 07/15/09 3:23pm

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Teddy Riley Remembers Michael Jackson
July 2009


Teddy Riley worked with Jackson on his "Dangerous" album in 1990, and "Invincible" in 2001.

Riley spoke to WAVY.com's Nicole Livas by phone Friday afternoon, "When I heard he passed away it dropped my heart, my spirit, my soul. Everything just dropped. It's devastating," said Riley.

Teddy Riley worked on two of Michael Jackson's albums in his former Virginia Beach studio, Future Records. He has fond memories of Jackson's last visit to Hampton Roads eight years ago. He says they were putting the final touches on "Invincible," which would become Jackson's final studio album.

Riley also told WAVY.com that they mangaged to squeeze in some fun at Waterside in Norfolk. Riley said, "We took all the kids, and all of my nephews and nieces. We took them to Jillian's with us and we all had a ball with Michael Jackson at Jillian's. It was the most incredible time."

Riley says he last spoke to Michael Jackson a few months ago, as he prepared for his July comeback tour kickoff in London. Riley says he sounded upbeat and ready to perform again for his fans.

Now, the "King of Pop" will forever live on in spirit, through his music.

"Michael was definitely a spirit sent from God," said Riley.


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Reply #628 posted 07/15/09 3:27pm

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Those are some pretty cool figures. Where can ya get 'em?
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Wendy: He’s a girl, for sure, but he’s not gay. He looked at me like a gay woman would look at another woman. Lisa: Totally. He’s like a fancy lesbian.
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