Chic35 said:

Michael DID have a will

vainandy said:

Her HOME was in Indiana. Katherine to this day NEVER has considered California home. Alabama and Indiana still holds something dear for her. Jermaine probably wrote the script anyway.

Timmy84 said:

and Chicago

bboy87 said:

From all accounts, Katherine was in East Chicago, Indiana, that's where she was living at when she met Joseph. I know it's weird but there is such a place called East Chicago, Indiana. They weren't far from the Illinois city tho since Gary is connected to Chicago, IL in a way. It's kinda like Memphis, Tennessee and West Memphis, Arkansas.
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ViintageJunkiie said:

According to Jermaine, the main reason why Joseph couldn't always whip Michael is because Michael was able to run so fast that Joseph couldn't always catch him.

But at the same times, I think THIS was also another reason why Joseph verbally abused Michael. If he could whip his son because he was too fast to be caught, Joseph settled for verbally assaulting Michael instead and STILL hurt him emotional.

TonyVanDam said:

And that's the bottom line. Either way Joe still did a number on Mike. The physical abuse only stopped when Michael threatened to quit.

lilgish said:

StarFishNCoffee50 said:

It's about to get even uglier too. From the issue of who gets custody of his kids to his estate, to his finances,etc. It's all gonna be one huge mess.

Copycat said:

I don't understand why nobody thought to use epinephrine to try to restart his heart especially since this doctor is a licensed cardiologist. I'm an animal nurse and the moment a pet comes in with no heartbeat and not breathing, we immediately hook them up to oxygen and inject epinephrine, sometimes directly into the pet's heart (like on 'Pulp Fiction'). I've seen several pets revived with this drug and I know it's used in human medicine, because that's what an Epi-Pen is and they have those in malls. Nobody thought to try this and maybe he could have had a better chance than administering just CPR.

MJ grooving to Ignition.

Michael Jackson’s Posthumous Music: How Will It Compare To Tupac, Biggie And Kurt?

If reports are to be believed, Michael Jackson may have as many as 100 unreleased songs that he left behind. Though it may be quite some time before any songs ever get out, it’s certain that fans will be clamoring for songs they’ve never heard.

But if pop history has taught us anything, it’s that posthumous music releases can be a bit of a nightmare both for the people in control of the estate and the fans craving new music. In fact, sometimes that music actually hurts the legacy of the artist.

When Jimi Hendrix died in 1970, he left behind at least one incomplete album and many more unfinished tracks, demos and outtakes. But for decades, the previously unreleased songs were released haphazardly and were underproduced. It wasn’t until Hendrix’s sister managed to gain control of his catalog that the recordings were considered reasonable enough for commercial release. Hendrix albums have slowed and there are still legal battles over Hendrix’s legacy, but the reconstructed First Rays of the New Rising Sun and the restored Live at Monterey are both keepers. But be warned: A lot of the post-1970 Hendrix releases are horrible.

The same could be said of Tupac, but in reverse. When the rapper was killed in 1996, he left behind dozens of hours of verses, freestyles, outtakes and completed songs. In his case, the albums released closest to his death — The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory (released as Makaveli) and R U Still Down? (Remember Me) — are both excellent, mostly because they were fully realized (or close to it) at the time of his death. After that, things sort of go downhill. There are moments of brilliance on Still I Rise and Better Dayz, but it’s been largely diminishing returns since the end of the century.

Tupac rival the Notorious B.I.G. has had an even rougher time of it. Biggie Smalls was killed in 1997 just before the release of his recently completed Life After Death. Biggie didn’t leave behind very much in the way of unreleased recordings — basically, most everything he recorded he ended up releasing during his life. But there were still a few tapes, most of which got paired with beats and unlikely collaborators on Born Again and Duets: The Final Chapter. Each have decent tracks on them — “Dead Wrong,” a duet with Eminem, is especially impressive — but most of them don’t seem like the types of songs Biggie would actually do.

Like Biggie, Kurt Cobain didn’t record a whole lot of music he didn’t release (and the stuff that was left in the vault was left there for an excellent reason — they weren’t very good). But bootlegs were being widely circulated and the fans were hot for product, so Courtney Love released the live album From the Muddy Banks of the Wishkah in 1996 and With the Lights Out in 2004. The live album is decent if a little ramshackle, but the box set is a bit of a mess. While the DVD footage of Cobain jamming to Led Zeppelin’s “Immigrant Song” at Krist Novoselic’s mother’s house is a fascinating artifact, it doesn’t make up for the three discs worth of sloppy outtakes and poorly-produced demos. The one truly great song — the posthumous single “You Know You’re Right” — isn’t even on the box set (it appeared on the hits compilation Nirvana in 2002), but the pre-Nevermind studio session tunes “Oh, the Guilt” and “Return of the Rat” are both interesting and catchy.

So Jackson probably faces an uphill battle. Depending on who is in control of the legacy, the quality of the work will likely be wildly inconsistent. Plus, it’s still unclear just how finished these “songs” are. But one thing is for sure: They will see the light of day and will, in some ways, dictate Jackson’s musical legacy and perhaps make up for the creative hiccup that was Invincible.

She cracks me up. I don't agree with each and every thing she says but when I see her interview someone I don't like or don't agree with, she give them pure hell and I love it because when she's shitting on them, she's shitting on them they way I'd like to myself.

Oh, I've seen her cut people off and it's funny as hell when she does it. I'm not saying that it's right but it's definately humorous. And then there's the callers. Most of them are usually on her side but I notice that after they ask their question, you never hear them say anything else after that. Just like tonight when she went slap off on that caller and the caller never responded back. I know if I were the caller, I would have been saying...."look bitch, I just asked a question"...but they never respond back. She probably has her staff to hang up on them right after they ask the question so they can't respond. I've also seen her guests prove her wrong sometimes and when that happens, she has one of those looks on her face and the next thing you know, a commercial shows up on the screen.

She's pure comedy to me. Hey, what can I say, I'm desperate for entertainment these days since reality shows are on all the other channels.

StarFishNCoffee50 said:

I just read an article today on ATT.com homepage that said that Michael had a large stack in Sony/AEG music. That roster includes the Beatles, Bob Dylan, Lady Gaga, the Jonas Brothers, and other big names. The article said the stack could be worth close to $2 billion. It also said that Katherine wants to be named beneficiary of his estate so she can ensure that her grandchildren get their father's assets. I think Katherine is the person who should get these children because she knows what she's doing and she won't steal from her grandchildren...she just doesn't seem like that type of person. I hoped for either her or Janet, because they seem like the more responsible and trustworthy two in the family to me, but that's just my

Anxiety said:

personally, it's seeing them deteriorate in their last moments/days/weeks, etc., in a hospital, nursing home, whatever, that bugs me. the body doesn't so much, and brings some closure to it for me. i'd rather remember them the way they were, and then see them when it's done so that it sinks in for me.

but that might have to do with my own brushes with mortality and repeated stays in hospitals from the ages of 10 to 17. when i was sort of experiencing an avalanche of death around me for a few years, i found it very uncomfortable to look at someone in a hospital bed, but realized that the body really presents no problems for me.

but everyone's different, and i guess i bring my own issues to it.

Timmy84 said:

Kathrine also spoke out against the gay rumors about Michael as well. Keep in mind that she is still a strict JW.

But you know what is so funny about The Jacksons' parents?!? Katherine & Joseph were (still are) quick enough to defend Michael's human sexuality as a straight man, but NEVER bother defending the human sexuality of Latoya (who has kissing another woman before) OR Janet (who was once rumored by the tabloid for having an one night stand with a female back-up dancer, never mind the hints of being bi-curious on The Velvet Rope album!) as straight women. Why is that?!?
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cdcgold said:

Of all of The Jackson siblings, Marion had THE most of Joseph's whippings. And most of the time, it was because (according to Joseph) Marion couldn't always dance in perfect timing like Michael.

And yet, Marion ended up being THE most "normal" of all of his adult siblings. He never had shown any of the weaknesses that Michael has.

I didn't know any of that.

TonyVanDam said:

You mean Marlon? But it also depends on personality too. Michael said in Moonwalker that when both of them had acne Marlon was out there super happy as ever, while it affected Michael's self esteem badly. Marlon has always been the funny over the top Jackson, hes just more of a positive person who can deal with things better
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TonyVanDam said:

What about Tito?

Dayum Nancy Grace is up arms about Katherine having custody of Michael's kids! She's pissed because Katherine is 79 years old. Why are none of the other younger siblings stepping up to take custody of the children?

TonyVanDam said:

It's because of the speculation because of Michael's appearance and that he didn't have alot of girlfriends in the public eye

TonyVanDam said:

Double standard. Yeah I know of Katherine's apparent discomfort with homosexual men too. I don't wanna buy that "but they came from a different time" excuse.

Arnotts said:

Something about Marlon actually reminds me of myself: just happy with life and peaceful. He was also premature in birth like me though I didn't have a twin brother.

Timmy84 said:

Gay male JW men do exist, it's been here from day one whether she chooses to believe it or not!
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Timmy84 said:

Thats probably another reason why your handling the death well? I'm definitely not that kind of person which is another reason why this is not easy.

Chic35 said:

She has no idea what's going on behind the scenes so she needs to shut that trap


Nancy Grace is the best example of what I call "Erection Kryptonite"

Cinnamon234 said:

Oh, please Lord, don't let this turn into Anna Nicole Smith: Part 2. Please God! I just can't handle that again. It took them almost 2 weeks to bury that poor woman and then that bitch of a mother she had didn't want her buried in the Bahamas even though that was what Anna had requested in her will. Than that cunt had the nerve to try to fight the will. Then she tried to stop the funeral. Then she tried to have her grandson dug up and moved to Texas. No wonder Anna was all screwed up. I'd be jacked up to if my mother was an asshole and a total fucktard. There's a nice seat in hell for that evil bitch...right under Satan's nutsack. Last I heard, they wanted to dig up Anna and move her to Texas and Danny's father had jumped in and wanted to dig up his son (a son he hadn't done shit for in over a decade) and relocate him to Texas, but not bury him next to his mother. Why can't they just let that woman lay next to her son in the Bahamas? I've been to the Bahamas. It's nice as hell down there. Wow, some people are just soo selfish and greedy it's sad.

I'm watching the "Unauthorized" interview and I wonder how LaToya is doing. She, Michael, Janet, and Randy were thick as thieves

moussemaker said:

thats my favorite private film of michael he could even dance sitting

Arnotts said:

Could be. Plus he's not making a big fuss like Papa Joe apparently is. He just said he was "grieving on the inside", lol.

motownlover said:

Mike was turnin' the wheel!

I haven't watched that part for obvious reasons but it's for Mike so I did