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Thread started 06/04/09 6:53pm

thesexofit

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Patti Labelle and Michael Bolton




Haters gonna hate LOL, but Michael held his own against a live legend like Patti back then. Patti still owns, but Bolton gets props on this performance to.

What do you think?
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Reply #1 posted 06/17/09 3:21pm

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Surprised they didn't do their duet "We're not making love anymore" actually.
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Reply #2 posted 06/17/09 3:23pm

Timmy84

I think I saw this performance as a kid and I think that even though Michael held his own, Patti still took him to school. lol Call her a shouter but I love the way she does it. biggrin
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Reply #3 posted 06/17/09 3:42pm

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Timmy84 said:

I think I saw this performance as a kid and I think that even though Michael held his own, Patti still took him to school. lol Call her a shouter but I love the way she does it. biggrin



Do you know if this was before or after that awful isley Brothers court case? I know any few black/rnb fans he had, vanished after that debacle.
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Reply #4 posted 06/17/09 3:44pm

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thesexofit said:

Timmy84 said:

I think I saw this performance as a kid and I think that even though Michael held his own, Patti still took him to school. lol Call her a shouter but I love the way she does it. biggrin



Do you know if this was before or after that awful isley Brothers court case? I know any few black/rnb fans he had, vanished after that debacle.


Probably before, Patti's hairdo at the time screams 1989 or 1990... hmmm
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Reply #5 posted 06/17/09 3:46pm

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OK, I just checked to see what the description was and it was 1990 ("Motown Live") when this was taped.
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Timmy84 said:

OK, I just checked to see what the description was and it was 1990 ("Motown Live") when this was taped.


Before the "scandel" then. "Love is a wonderful thing" (the song that got sued) came out in 1991. Never did like that song much, and Iam a big fan.
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Reply #7 posted 06/17/09 4:01pm

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thesexofit said:

Timmy84 said:

OK, I just checked to see what the description was and it was 1990 ("Motown Live") when this was taped.


Before the "scandel" then. "Love is a wonderful thing" (the song that got sued) came out in 1991. Never did like that song much, and Iam a big fan.


That was a bad attempt to do a Motown recording. I remember thinking that in 1991 at 7 and I was just starting to understand what was a Motown song and what was not! eek lol
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Timmy84 said:

thesexofit said:



Before the "scandel" then. "Love is a wonderful thing" (the song that got sued) came out in 1991. Never did like that song much, and Iam a big fan.


That was a bad attempt to do a Motown recording. I remember thinking that in 1991 at 7 and I was just starting to understand what was a Motown song and what was not! eek lol


Iam surprised it was as big a hit as it was. Bolton can do rnb/soul, but its very hit and miss. "Soul provider" is decent enough, even "sittin' on the dock of the bay", I think gets a pass, but he kept doing rnb covers/standards and it was abit of a waste really. "When a man loves a woman" is god awful fo example.
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Reply #9 posted 06/17/09 4:26pm

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thesexofit said:

Timmy84 said:



That was a bad attempt to do a Motown recording. I remember thinking that in 1991 at 7 and I was just starting to understand what was a Motown song and what was not! eek lol


Iam surprised it was as big a hit as it was. Bolton can do rnb/soul, but its very hit and miss. "Soul provider" is decent enough, even "sittin' on the dock of the bay", I think gets a pass, but he kept doing rnb covers/standards and it was abit of a waste really. "When a man loves a woman" is god awful fo example.


I never dug Mike anyways. His attempts at doing R&B were terrible. It wasn't like McDonald where McDonald was NATURALLY soulful. Bolton pushed it, but he did find his niche later on in his career when he realized he was a pop crooner and not a soul man. lol
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Reply #10 posted 06/17/09 4:43pm

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- So which Michael did those rnb remakes that I can't stand? Not only "When a Man Loves a Woman" but "I Heard it Through the Grapevine" and so on and so on? McDonald right? hmmm

- There's only one station in my area that plays his remakes and its not the "rnb" ones
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Reply #11 posted 06/17/09 4:47pm

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Mstrustme said:

- So which Michael did those rnb remakes that I can't stand? Not only "When a Man Loves a Woman" but "I Heard it Through the Grapevine" and so on and so on? McDonald right? hmmm


No, Bolton.
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Reply #12 posted 06/17/09 4:50pm

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Timmy84 said:

No, Bolton.


Lol. Thanks
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Reply #13 posted 06/17/09 4:53pm

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Timmy84 said:

thesexofit said:



Iam surprised it was as big a hit as it was. Bolton can do rnb/soul, but its very hit and miss. "Soul provider" is decent enough, even "sittin' on the dock of the bay", I think gets a pass, but he kept doing rnb covers/standards and it was abit of a waste really. "When a man loves a woman" is god awful fo example.


I never dug Mike anyways. His attempts at doing R&B were terrible. It wasn't like McDonald where McDonald was NATURALLY soulful. Bolton pushed it, but he did find his niche later on in his career when he realized he was a pop crooner and not a soul man. lol


I love some Michael Mcdonald, he sounds like James Ingram (or Joe Pizziulo, Joe "bean" Esposito) etc.. and I think he even pre-dates Ingram (though Ingram has the better voice in my opinion), but Bolton's voice is kinda unique. Love him or hate him, he can do pop, rock, ballads, rnb etc... dude can be versitle and has great range too.

I liked the song he wrote with Babyface called "best of love", but it flopped

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thesexofit said:

Timmy84 said:

OK, I just checked to see what the description was and it was 1990 ("Motown Live") when this was taped.


Before the "scandel" then. "Love is a wonderful thing" (the song that got sued) came out in 1991. Never did like that song much, and Iam a big fan.

what scandal?
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Reply #15 posted 06/17/09 5:37pm

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thesexofit said:



Before the "scandel" then. "Love is a wonderful thing" (the song that got sued) came out in 1991. Never did like that song much, and Iam a big fan.

what scandal?


The Isley Brothers sued Michael for plagiarizing parts of one of their Motown recordings, I believe.
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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:


what scandal?


The Isley Brothers sued Michael for plagiarizing parts of one of their Motown recordings, I believe.



Yep. I never heard the song Michael (and Walter Affansief) supposedly stole, but Michael stupidly said he never heard that song in question before, despite being known for loving soul music. Its possible he never heard it, but very unlikely. He lost the case.
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Reply #17 posted 06/17/09 5:42pm

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Timmy84 said:



The Isley Brothers sued Michael for plagiarizing parts of one of their Motown recordings, I believe.



Yep. I never heard the song Michael (and Walter Affansief) supposedly stole, but Michael stupidly said he never heard that song in question before, despite being known for loving soul music. Its possible he never heard it, but very unlikely. He lost the case.


Yep, that's exactly what happened. He tried to have it overturned in 2001 but they upheld the decision. Apparently it was a song the Isleys wrote that Motown published though the Isleys had recorded it in a different label.
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Timmy84 said:

thesexofit said:




Yep. I never heard the song Michael (and Walter Affansief) supposedly stole, but Michael stupidly said he never heard that song in question before, despite being known for loving soul music. Its possible he never heard it, but very unlikely. He lost the case.


Yep, that's exactly what happened. He tried to have it overturned in 2001 but they upheld the decision. Apparently it was a song the Isleys wrote that Motown published though the Isleys had recorded it in a different label.


Yeah, I read about the appeal from Michael. Just give it up already LOL. Sounds quite obscure to be fair to Mike. I'd still like to hear it. Anyway, I read Teddy Riley is a big fan of Mike's? Who knew?
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Timmy84 said:



Yep, that's exactly what happened. He tried to have it overturned in 2001 but they upheld the decision. Apparently it was a song the Isleys wrote that Motown published though the Isleys had recorded it in a different label.


Yeah, I read about the appeal from Michael. Just give it up already LOL. Sounds quite obscure to be fair to Mike. I'd still like to hear it. Anyway, I read Teddy Riley is a big fan of Mike's? Who knew?


I'm not so surprised. I've heard so many hip-hop heads admit they even have a Johnny Mathis or Johnny Cash CD in their case, lol.
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Timmy84 said:

thesexofit said:



Yeah, I read about the appeal from Michael. Just give it up already LOL. Sounds quite obscure to be fair to Mike. I'd still like to hear it. Anyway, I read Teddy Riley is a big fan of Mike's? Who knew?


I'm not so surprised. I've heard so many hip-hop heads admit they even have a Johnny Mathis or Johnny Cash CD in their case, lol.

Alot of hip hop fans love Yacht Rock too lol

They love Kenny Loggins like a mug lol
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Reply #21 posted 06/17/09 11:23pm

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Timmy84 said:



I'm not so surprised. I've heard so many hip-hop heads admit they even have a Johnny Mathis or Johnny Cash CD in their case, lol.

Alot of hip hop fans love Yacht Rock too lol

They love Kenny Loggins like a mug lol


I noticed. lol
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bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:



I'm not so surprised. I've heard so many hip-hop heads admit they even have a Johnny Mathis or Johnny Cash CD in their case, lol.

Alot of hip hop fans love Yacht Rock too lol

They love Kenny Loggins like a mug lol


On internet messageboards, the truth comes out huh?

Loggins to be fair can be soulful. It ain't all "danger zone" and "footloose", as Iam sure you know.

I know Babyface is a big fan of Phil Collins. Infact, some rnb stars did a tribute album to Phil. I remember Brandy and Ray J releasing "another day in paradise".
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Reply #23 posted 06/18/09 5:52pm

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thesexofit said:

bboy87 said:


Alot of hip hop fans love Yacht Rock too lol

They love Kenny Loggins like a mug lol


On internet messageboards, the truth comes out huh?

Loggins to be fair can be soulful. It ain't all "danger zone" and "footloose", as Iam sure you know.

I know Babyface is a big fan of Phil Collins. Infact, some rnb stars did a tribute album to Phil. I remember Brandy and Ray J releasing "another day in paradise".


Both Kenny & Phil have material that I love. I don't give a damn if people don't dig it. wink
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