sassybritches said:

It boggles the mind how ANYONE with properly functioning ears could enjoy some of that stuff, but even moreso an adult. I don't get it. I started a thread not too long ago asking about the similar tastes between the two groups and got shot down with the quickness for "stereotyping" and obviously not knowing anything about young gay men.

sassybritches said:

It boggles the mind how ANYONE with properly functioning ears could enjoy some of that stuff, but even moreso an adult. I don't get it. I started a thread not too long ago asking about the similar tastes between the two groups and got shot down with the quickness for "stereotyping" and obviously not knowing anything about young gay men.

meow85 said:

what do 23 yo gay boys listen? I have the feeling Shitney became a gay idol for a younger generation. Like the mother of Liza Minelli was fo a certain generation, Diana Ross, Barbra and Madonna.

graecophilos said:

The same thing 13 year old girls listen to.

My 21 year old gay male roommate plays the same music his 12 year old sister played when she came out here to visit. Lots and lots and lots of Britney, Beyonce, Pussycat Dolls, and sounds of that variety.

Gay clubs even in this town, even bear bars that supposedly target an older crowd, all play the same crap.
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meow85 said:

I never used to want to go to the gay bars with friends when I lived in Atlanta because most of the time, the music they play is just un-fucking-listenable.
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Boy Bands...

you heard one you've heard them all.

graecophilos said:

Bareback Street Boys

TD3 said:

Oh, you...

I couldn't have come up with a better name for them myself.

Arnotts said:

As Cinne ssaid..then she came out with Energy:

The same boring tuneless shit 23 year old gay boys listen to.

I don't get the whole Disney phenomena for teenagers. It reminds me of the stuff I'd be suckered into when I was EIGHT. EIGHT YEARS OLD! By the time you're 13 you're usually wanting to grow up a bit. When you're 13, you wish you were 16-18. I was obsessed with Prince at 13 and finding all the dirtiest songs I could.

I wasn't running after... oh shit, in the early to mid 90s there wasn't really anything like these Disney stars, even the boy bands weren't too clean cut either. Maybe a couple of R&B girl groups like Eternal were the most parent-friendly things I was listening to at 13, but they were girls in their early 20s - i.e. what 13 year olds look up to and aspire to be. I wouldn't be listening to a 15 year old girl like Miley Cyrus because it's far too close an age gap. Especially for girls, it's just nature to want to look up to someone older than identify with someone your own age.

I'm the same age as Britney and Billie Piper - when they first came out they were playing to 10 year olds, not me.
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Ellie said:

The cleanness of this new crop is mostly what weirds me out. Those boybands and girlgroups of ten years ago regularly talked and sang about fucking, even if they didn't use that actual word. The Jonas Brothers sing about how hard modesty is to find in a girl.

meow85 said:

No one actually believes them, though Well, no one over 15 anyway. One of them's had a ton of girlfriends.

purplesweat said:

Well of course not. I almost laughed out loud when I heard about their saving themselves, or whatever chastity PR nonsense that was.

But the shift in teen idol image is weird. When I was 13, I was getting encouragement from all corners of the pop world to go out and fight a pretty body to have fun with. Today's 13 year olds are having Disney tell them to wait 'til the wedding night.

Where's this generation's Lay Down Beside Me?

meow85 said:

I'm guessing here but there's definitely been a big rebellion against that kind of "skank" attitude amongst younger people. I don't know why and I don't know what brought it on but teens are definitely waiting til they're older before they start dating/having sex.

When emo/goth was popular again amongst teens in 2006-2007, there was a movement called 'straight edge' where if you say "I'm straight edge", it means you don't drink, smoke or have sex and you believe in God...while listening to Marilyn Manson

I thought it was ridiculous and most of my friends grew out of it by 17 or 18 but I think it's still alive and well amongst the 12-16 age group.

So I guess Disney is cashing in on this movement.

I suppose it's not THAT bad a movement but it's when they start judging or looking down on those who don't do it that gets to me.

purplesweat said:

I wouldn't go dragging goth into this mess, but emo has definitely had a weird effect on things. Around here though "straight edge" usually doesn't include references to God, but the rest is about the same.

There are worse things that telling kids to wait 'til they're ready for sex, for sure. But a lot of this Disney crowd seem to be of a more judgmental bent, or at least the ones I've been exposed to.

Still though, half the fun in the pop music I grew up with was just how naughty -and occasionally outright dirty -it could be.

meow85 said:

I just said "goth" in case you didn't know what emo was Goths can be cool, emo's are just pathetic attention seekers.

Same with me with pop, I grew up with Britney It was hilarious watching all the parents go bonkers each time a video came out. Hell, Fox News is STILL going on about her

purplesweat said:

Well, you know how I feel about Britney, and I know how you feel about BSB, but I know exactly what you mean.

Britney may have claimed to be a virgin but everyone knew it was bull and her whole image even back then was sort of a stripper Lolita thing. Quite the contrast to an act like Hilary Duff.


I remember when my young self figured out exactly what the Spice Girls meant when they sang 2 Become 1, or exactly why boybands are so often posed in photoshoots only half-dressed. is feeling nostalgic