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Printablelilgish said: What heterosexual man is going to turn down a woman like Tatiana Thumbtzen. Think of all the dime pieces Mike has turned down, dude is Gay
That's what I'm saying!  Tatiana is gorgeous,and she was truly in love with Michael.She wanted him badly.THAT's who he should have married and had children with,instead of that ugly cow Debbie Rowe.If Michael was straight,he would have been all over Tatiana.
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angel345 said: vainandy said: If you notice, he's looking around that ass instead of at it. He must see a dick somewhere off in the distance. Eddie Murphy wanted her too, but was caught with that transvestite. In her book,she says that she and Prince got together,too | |
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SoulAlive said: dag said: I think so, too. I wonder who has more problems here with MJ´s sexuality. Midnightmover calls anyone a loon, fanatics etc.,yet he/she´s the one with the most responses to MJ over here (definitely in this thread). It´s funny that those loons feel less need to prove their truth about their idol that they so blindly adore than you trying to prove your truth about someone you apparently hate so much. SoulAlive belives we have a problem with a fact (?!) of him being a qay. What if you the "non-loons" have problem with the fact that he might be straight? MJ has already proven to me, that he´s not. I´ve just seen videos of him flirting with women and they´re quite rare ones, cause he doesn´t do that type of stuff in the public. You can see that if you watch the four hours of the NY signing, or the full version of making of Stranger in Moscow or simply because of the fact that what they found in Neverland was not a gay porn, but a straight one. I can´t imagine any gay man having pleasure looking at Playboy or Penthouse and this is probably the most intimate detail about his sex-life that has ever gotten to the public. Oh, I forgot, it was for the little boys and he had so much of it in case his "victims" had a demanding taste. If Michael is straight,then how come we never hear any of his "women" coming out,writing books and describing their lovemaking sessions with Michael? All of the famous women that he has supposedly dated (Brooke Shields,Tatum O'Neal,Stephanie Mills,Maureen McCormick,etc) have all said the same thing :"We were just friends...nothing sexual happened".Brooke even made a recent joke about it,pointing out that,since she "dated Micheal Jackson and George Michael in the 80s",she has alot of experience playing the "beard".Reportedly,when Madonna tried to seduce Michael in the early 90s,he just giggled like a little child,unable to "rise to the occasion".If he was straight,I'm sure by NOW we would have heard several accounts of his affairs and sexual conquests with women (he IS a major superstar,after all,and some of these ladies would have had no problem kissing and telling).
Let's say it all together now: MICHAEL JACKSON IS GAY.Learn it,repeat it,accept it,and move on.It's not a tragedy at all.I think he would truly be at peace with himself if he just came out and stopped hiding in that closet. I don´t understand why a man has to sleep with tons of women in order to be straight. The fact that no single women came forward to describe their love-making sessions means nothing cause there is also NO man who would do that, so how do you know, he´s gay? I don´t think that only ladies would have no problem kissing and telling. If all the stories with Madonna etc. abouth im giggling are true, all it can mean is that he´s just very shy. BTW if I coulc watch or listen to Madonna herself talking about it, please let me know, I´d love to see it. Cause I´ve never seen her get into deatils about this. The only one who ever described or spoke ofsomething physical happening between them(that I know of) was Stephanie Mills and she didn´t speak of any giggling. And let´s not mention that MJ has always been devoted Jehovah Witness, so if LMP was truly his first than that wouldn´t not come as a surprise either cause they´re not allowed to have sex before marriage. And what about Elvis? I think Priscilla wrote in her book, he didn´t have sex with anyone until their wedding night and nobody calls him gay. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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SoulAlive said: lilgish said: What heterosexual man is going to turn down a woman like Tatiana Thumbtzen. Think of all the dime pieces Mike has turned down, dude is Gay
That's what I'm saying! Tatiana is gorgeous,and she was truly in love with Michael.She wanted him badly.THAT's who he should have married and had children with,instead of that ugly cow Debbie Rowe.If Michael was straight,he would have been all over Tatiana.
. [Edited 12/5/08 6:09am] And she loves Micheal til this day. She speaks of him constantly and you can see it on YouTube. He is even on MySpace. She has also been in and out of relationships, to my understanding. | |
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dag said: SoulAlive said: If Michael is straight,then how come we never hear any of his "women" coming out,writing books and describing their lovemaking sessions with Michael? All of the famous women that he has supposedly dated (Brooke Shields,Tatum O'Neal,Stephanie Mills,Maureen McCormick,etc) have all said the same thing :"We were just friends...nothing sexual happened".Brooke even made a recent joke about it,pointing out that,since she "dated Micheal Jackson and George Michael in the 80s",she has alot of experience playing the "beard".Reportedly,when Madonna tried to seduce Michael in the early 90s,he just giggled like a little child,unable to "rise to the occasion".If he was straight,I'm sure by NOW we would have heard several accounts of his affairs and sexual conquests with women (he IS a major superstar,after all,and some of these ladies would have had no problem kissing and telling).
Let's say it all together now: MICHAEL JACKSON IS GAY.Learn it,repeat it,accept it,and move on.It's not a tragedy at all.I think he would truly be at peace with himself if he just came out and stopped hiding in that closet. I don´t understand why a man has to sleep with tons of women in order to be straight. The fact that no single women came forward to describe their love-making sessions means nothing cause there is also NO man who would do that, so how do you know, he´s gay? I don´t think that only ladies would have no problem kissing and telling. If all the stories with Madonna etc. abouth im giggling are true, all it can mean is that he´s just very shy. BTW if I coulc watch or listen to Madonna herself talking about it, please let me know, I´d love to see it. Cause I´ve never seen her get into deatils about this. The only one who ever described or spoke ofsomething physical happening between them(that I know of) was Stephanie Mills and she didn´t speak of any giggling. And let´s not mention that MJ has always been devoted Jehovah Witness, so if LMP was truly his first than that wouldn´t not come as a surprise either cause they´re not allowed to have sex before marriage. And what about Elvis? I think Priscilla wrote in her book, he didn´t have sex with anyone until their wedding night and nobody calls him gay. I read someone one day that Micheal wasn't interested in Madonna because she's not his type, and called her a skank. She called him a wimp. That was it. | |
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SoulAlive said: angel345 said: Eddie Murphy wanted her too, but was caught with that transvestite. In her book,she says that she and Prince got together,too Yes, I've read about that, as well. | |
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angel345 said: SoulAlive said: That's what I'm saying! Tatiana is gorgeous,and she was truly in love with Michael.She wanted him badly.THAT's who he should have married and had children with,instead of that ugly cow Debbie Rowe.If Michael was straight,he would have been all over Tatiana.
. [Edited 12/5/08 6:09am] And she loves Micheal til this day. She speaks of him constantly and you can see it on YouTube. He is even on MySpace. She has also been in and out of relationships, to my understanding. Let me also say this. What was puzzling is she wrote a book about being with Micheal, and his parents backed her up on national tv. Why then would she change her story and say it never happened. If you want to make a so-called gay man look good, wouldn't it be wise to stick to your story? | |
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angel345 said: SoulAlive said: In her book,she says that she and Prince got together,too Yes, I've read about that, as well. Do you remember back in 1988 when MJ won the BRE awards and Tatiana was on stage with him. I was told that according to her book, he walked off the stage and left her hanging because he was pissed that she slept with both Eddie Murphy and Prince while they was supposedly dating. Don't know. | |
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angel345 said: SoulAlive said: That's what I'm saying! Tatiana is gorgeous,and she was truly in love with Michael.She wanted him badly.THAT's who he should have married and had children with,instead of that ugly cow Debbie Rowe.If Michael was straight,he would have been all over Tatiana.
. [Edited 12/5/08 6:09am] And she loves Micheal til this day. She speaks of him constantly and you can see it on YouTube. He is even on MySpace. She has also been in and out of relationships, to my understanding. I gotta say, to me that would be a good reason not to get with her. She seems pretty obsessive/stalkerish. I'm sure there are plenty of pretty people (male or female) he could get with that have not had an obsessive crush on him for the past 20-odd years, if he wanted a relationship. | |
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SoulAlive said: dag said: I think so, too. I wonder who has more problems here with MJ´s sexuality. Midnightmover calls anyone a loon, fanatics etc.,yet he/she´s the one with the most responses to MJ over here (definitely in this thread). It´s funny that those loons feel less need to prove their truth about their idol that they so blindly adore than you trying to prove your truth about someone you apparently hate so much. SoulAlive belives we have a problem with a fact (?!) of him being a qay. What if you the "non-loons" have problem with the fact that he might be straight? MJ has already proven to me, that he´s not. I´ve just seen videos of him flirting with women and they´re quite rare ones, cause he doesn´t do that type of stuff in the public. You can see that if you watch the four hours of the NY signing, or the full version of making of Stranger in Moscow or simply because of the fact that what they found in Neverland was not a gay porn, but a straight one. I can´t imagine any gay man having pleasure looking at Playboy or Penthouse and this is probably the most intimate detail about his sex-life that has ever gotten to the public. Oh, I forgot, it was for the little boys and he had so much of it in case his "victims" had a demanding taste. If Michael is straight,then how come we never hear any of his "women" coming out,writing books and describing their lovemaking sessions with Michael? All of the famous women that he has supposedly dated (Brooke Shields,Tatum O'Neal,Stephanie Mills,Maureen McCormick,etc) have all said the same thing :"We were just friends...nothing sexual happened".Brooke even made a recent joke about it,pointing out that,since she "dated Micheal Jackson and George Michael in the 80s",she has alot of experience playing the "beard".Reportedly,when Madonna tried to seduce Michael in the early 90s,he just giggled like a little child,unable to "rise to the occasion".If he was straight,I'm sure by NOW we would have heard several accounts of his affairs and sexual conquests with women (he IS a major superstar,after all,and some of these ladies would have had no problem kissing and telling).
Let's say it all together now: MICHAEL JACKSON IS GAY.Learn it,repeat it,accept it,and move on.It's not a tragedy at all.I think he would truly be at peace with himself if he just came out and stopped hiding in that closet. other than Tatiana's book... 
The story of Theresa Gonsalves and Michael Jackson has been told on a few occassions. You may have read a little about their relationship in Randy Taraborelli's book "Michael Jackson the Magic and the Madness" or you may have recently seen a little of their story on the VH1 Special.."Childhood Secrets of Michael Jackson!" You will have additional opportunity to read more about her relationship with Michael when STAR Magazine releases an article on her book Obsessions and her thoughts on the trial. Theresa's relationship with Michael began when she was twelve years old. She became "obsessed" with him and wrote him numerous letters until they met in Las Vegas for her sixteenth birthday! The obsession continued as they stayed in touch from that point on. Their worlds have continuously gone full circle always leading back to each other. They last saw each other four days before his arrest for these current child molestation charges as she introduced her own son Mychal (named after Michael) to him. Michael had his kids with him as well and was genuinely happy to see that Theresa's son was so well cared for! However, it was Theresa's son Todd that was the controversy behind the hit song Billie Jean. Her friendship with Michael was such that she confided in him about all aspects of her life. In detailing her situation about her baby's daddy....Michael wrote the song Billie Jean about her! While Theresa and Michael spent lots of intimate moments together that they chose not to share with the world, the kid is NOT his son!!! Some of their intimacies, however, are detailed in Theresa's book OBSESSIONS as it was her obsessive relationship with Michael Jackson that led her into the obsessive relationship that almost killed her! In 1984 Star Magazine revealed Theresa Gonsalves as the Real Billie Jean There was Romonica Harris(she looks off, though )
Shana Mangatal who appeared in Ghosts "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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SoulAlive said: lilgish said: What heterosexual man is going to turn down a woman like Tatiana Thumbtzen. Think of all the dime pieces Mike has turned down, dude is Gay
That's what I'm saying! Tatiana is gorgeous,and she was truly in love with Michael.She wanted him badly.THAT's who he should have married and had children with,instead of that ugly cow Debbie Rowe.If Michael was straight,he would have been all over Tatiana.
. [Edited 12/5/08 6:09am] she was hot, but homegirl didn't have body! She was skinny as hell back then "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: SoulAlive said: If Michael is straight,then how come we never hear any of his "women" coming out,writing books and describing their lovemaking sessions with Michael? All of the famous women that he has supposedly dated (Brooke Shields,Tatum O'Neal,Stephanie Mills,Maureen McCormick,etc) have all said the same thing :"We were just friends...nothing sexual happened".Brooke even made a recent joke about it,pointing out that,since she "dated Micheal Jackson and George Michael in the 80s",she has alot of experience playing the "beard".Reportedly,when Madonna tried to seduce Michael in the early 90s,he just giggled like a little child,unable to "rise to the occasion".If he was straight,I'm sure by NOW we would have heard several accounts of his affairs and sexual conquests with women (he IS a major superstar,after all,and some of these ladies would have had no problem kissing and telling).
Let's say it all together now: MICHAEL JACKSON IS GAY.Learn it,repeat it,accept it,and move on.It's not a tragedy at all.I think he would truly be at peace with himself if he just came out and stopped hiding in that closet. other than Tatiana's book...
The story of Theresa Gonsalves and Michael Jackson has been told on a few occassions. You may have read a little about their relationship in Randy Taraborelli's book "Michael Jackson the Magic and the Madness" or you may have recently seen a little of their story on the VH1 Special.."Childhood Secrets of Michael Jackson!" You will have additional opportunity to read more about her relationship with Michael when STAR Magazine releases an article on her book Obsessions and her thoughts on the trial. Theresa's relationship with Michael began when she was twelve years old. She became "obsessed" with him and wrote him numerous letters until they met in Las Vegas for her sixteenth birthday! The obsession continued as they stayed in touch from that point on. Their worlds have continuously gone full circle always leading back to each other. They last saw each other four days before his arrest for these current child molestation charges as she introduced her own son Mychal (named after Michael) to him. Michael had his kids with him as well and was genuinely happy to see that Theresa's son was so well cared for! However, it was Theresa's son Todd that was the controversy behind the hit song Billie Jean. Her friendship with Michael was such that she confided in him about all aspects of her life. In detailing her situation about her baby's daddy....Michael wrote the song Billie Jean about her! While Theresa and Michael spent lots of intimate moments together that they chose not to share with the world, the kid is NOT his son!!! Some of their intimacies, however, are detailed in Theresa's book OBSESSIONS as it was her obsessive relationship with Michael Jackson that led her into the obsessive relationship that almost killed her! In 1984 Star Magazine revealed Theresa Gonsalves as the Real Billie Jean There was Romonica Harris(she looks off, though )
Shana Mangatal who appeared in Ghosts All their stories are very confucking though.  | |
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I've never really believed Shana's story. Even tho she said Michael didnt put her up to that interview, somebody did--either someone in his camp, or one of his family member's...or maybe Mike did ask her to do the ET interview and she lied, but I dont believe she did it for herself because she wanted to set the record straight. I dont believe she was his secret girlfriend for 7 years--that would've meant that Mike was seeing her when he was married to LMP and impregnating Debbie? Yeah right  Her story is full of holes.
The thing that strikes me about her interview is her mannerisms, facial expressions, the way she answered some of the questions--were alot like Michael's when he does interviews. Very interesting. MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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NaughtyKitty said: I've never really believed Shana's story. Even tho she said Michael didnt put her up to that interview, somebody did--either someone in his camp, or one of his family member's...or maybe Mike did ask her to do the ET interview and she lied, but I dont believe she did it for herself because she wanted to set the record straight. I dont believe she was his secret girlfriend for 7 years--that would've meant that Mike was seeing her when he was married to LMP and impregnating Debbie? Yeah right
Her story is full of holes.
The thing that strikes me about her interview is her mannerisms, facial expressions, the way she answered some of the questions--were alot like Michael's when he does interviews. Very interesting. Shana is pretty but she is a WEIRD woman. I saw holes in her story myself. | |
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seeingvoices12 said: midnightmover said: Who said he married her because of her father?  If you could actually keep track of the argument you'd know I think he married her to make himself look straight after he got accused of molesting a little boy. The point about her father is in response to daq's naive argument that since Michael wanted to meet her earlier it means he must have wanted a romance with her. This is an illogical supposition. Anyone with any observational skills would know he was obsessed with old showbiz legends and meeting Elvis's daughter fits right in with that. He only wanted to marry her after he got accused of abuse. As Lisa said, she then got "sucked into his PR machine".
And I make nothing up, fool. I simply point out things that you are oblivious to. If a civilised man travels to a land of savages and tells them about cars and planes, they'd probably think he was making it up too. Here is what you said..... midnightmover said: Lisa Marie was daughter of Elvis Presley, the biggest solo artist in history, and the man who's success Michael wanted to surpass. It's perfectly natural that Michael at that time (when he was quite the star fucker) would have wanted to meet Elvis's daughter..
What the hell this sentence means? It means that MJ only wanted to meet lisa because she is elvis's daughter...thats was your explanation not mine ..those your words, the whole notion of meeting lisa was her father...you are completely delusional poster...and again, you make things up and you also recycle so much rubbish. [Edited 12/4/08 16:37pm] Wow, that's pretty devious. You completely took that quote out of context. Here is the bit from that post which you deliberately chose not to quote.... "MJ wanted to meet her years earlier, but it's very naive to think that means he wanted her romantically. MJ was obsessed with showbiz royalty with links to earlier eras like Katherine Hepburn, Jane Fonda (daughter of Henry Fonda), etc. He knew nothing about these peoples' work, but he was intoxicated with their glamourous history."
That's the context of the quote. None of this is made up. Mike went out of his way to forge connections with people connected to earlier eras of showbiz, including the offspring of dead legends (Sean Lennon, Princess Stephanie, etc.). That's a fact that no one can deny. Now if you accept that that's a fact, then it's not hard to see that meeting Elvis's daughter fits right in with that. How can you argue that that's made up? It's a perfectly clear point. Do you have any logical counter-argument to this? So far all you've offered are ridiculous claims about me that you can't back up. You've said nothing to say what exactly is so unbelievable about this. Obviously because you have no argument so you have to just vent your frustration instead. And just to help you out here, (since I know you guys have a hard time keeping track of arguments) I'm not saying he married her because she was Elvis's daughter. I'm saying he wanted to meet her because she was Elvis's daughter. Marriage only came up after he got busted for molesting a little boy and needed to make himself look straight. [Edited 12/5/08 12:06pm] “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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284 comments and he's still the object of debate. Does that mean he's gay? He keeps me wondering. | |
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bboy87 said: SoulAlive said: If Michael is straight,then how come we never hear any of his "women" coming out,writing books and describing their lovemaking sessions with Michael? All of the famous women that he has supposedly dated (Brooke Shields,Tatum O'Neal,Stephanie Mills,Maureen McCormick,etc) have all said the same thing :"We were just friends...nothing sexual happened".Brooke even made a recent joke about it,pointing out that,since she "dated Micheal Jackson and George Michael in the 80s",she has alot of experience playing the "beard".Reportedly,when Madonna tried to seduce Michael in the early 90s,he just giggled like a little child,unable to "rise to the occasion".If he was straight,I'm sure by NOW we would have heard several accounts of his affairs and sexual conquests with women (he IS a major superstar,after all,and some of these ladies would have had no problem kissing and telling).
Let's say it all together now: MICHAEL JACKSON IS GAY.Learn it,repeat it,accept it,and move on.It's not a tragedy at all.I think he would truly be at peace with himself if he just came out and stopped hiding in that closet. other than Tatiana's book...
The story of Theresa Gonsalves and Michael Jackson has been told on a few occassions. You may have read a little about their relationship in Randy Taraborelli's book "Michael Jackson the Magic and the Madness" or you may have recently seen a little of their story on the VH1 Special.."Childhood Secrets of Michael Jackson!" You will have additional opportunity to read more about her relationship with Michael when STAR Magazine releases an article on her book Obsessions and her thoughts on the trial. Theresa's relationship with Michael began when she was twelve years old. She became "obsessed" with him and wrote him numerous letters until they met in Las Vegas for her sixteenth birthday! The obsession continued as they stayed in touch from that point on. Their worlds have continuously gone full circle always leading back to each other. They last saw each other four days before his arrest for these current child molestation charges as she introduced her own son Mychal (named after Michael) to him. Michael had his kids with him as well and was genuinely happy to see that Theresa's son was so well cared for! However, it was Theresa's son Todd that was the controversy behind the hit song Billie Jean. Her friendship with Michael was such that she confided in him about all aspects of her life. In detailing her situation about her baby's daddy....Michael wrote the song Billie Jean about her! While Theresa and Michael spent lots of intimate moments together that they chose not to share with the world, the kid is NOT his son!!! Some of their intimacies, however, are detailed in Theresa's book OBSESSIONS as it was her obsessive relationship with Michael Jackson that led her into the obsessive relationship that almost killed her! In 1984 Star Magazine revealed Theresa Gonsalves as the Real Billie Jean There was Romonica Harris(she looks off, though )
Shana Mangatal who appeared in Ghosts Thanks so much for this bboy. I´ve never seen this interview. Interesting.  "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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angel345 said: 284 comments and he's still the object of debate. Does that mean he's gay? He keeps me wondering.
We don't know yet. | |
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Timmy84 said: angel345 said: 284 comments and he's still the object of debate. Does that mean he's gay? He keeps me wondering.
We don't know yet. and who really cares now..... what matters right now is my damn music teacher cut me off in mid muthafuckin' sentence! 
yes, I'm pissed "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: I know how THIS thread is gonna turn out.....
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