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Reply #30 posted 08/23/08 10:52am

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sunsetdriver1999 said:

Can someone please give me a rough description of who her fan base are?

her core fan base is the gays, the demographic with the most expendable income.

than i'd say comes 20-45 age range women who if with out kids will shell out the money or have their boyfriend/husband do it. in fact i tried to talk my cousin's husband into buying her tickets to see Madge in Denver.
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Reply #31 posted 08/23/08 10:55am

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errant said:

Se7en said:

I think a lot of that pricing strategy has to do with keeping the "riff-raff" out of her shows, and elevating her fanbase. I think she's aiming that price at the fans she wants to have.



gross. confused

no it's a good idea. iv'e gotten into stupid arguements with dumb teenage girls who think they own the world at concerts i've been too. When the price is that high they don't come to the show. One instanst in particular was a group of highschoolers at coachella a couple years ago who tired to put one of them on their shoulders so she could see the show. a few words were against, i called the girl a c*nt for acting that way, she called me a fag the group of muscle bears standing next to us, it was the year of the Scissor Sisters and Madonna, made them feel very unwelcome and they left. all of that can be avoided with high tickets prices.
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Reply #32 posted 08/23/08 11:09am

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ehuffnsd said:

errant said:




gross. confused

no it's a good idea. iv'e gotten into stupid arguements with dumb teenage girls who think they own the world at concerts i've been too. When the price is that high they don't come to the show. One instanst in particular was a group of highschoolers at coachella a couple years ago who tired to put one of them on their shoulders so she could see the show. a few words were against, i called the girl a c*nt for acting that way, she called me a fag the group of muscle bears standing next to us, it was the year of the Scissor Sisters and Madonna, made them feel very unwelcome and they left. all of that can be avoided with high tickets prices.


so basically, you want higher ticket prices so you aren't tempted to go around calling teenage girls cunts and make other people feel unwelcome at concerts.

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Reply #33 posted 08/23/08 11:22am

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errant said:

ehuffnsd said:


no it's a good idea. iv'e gotten into stupid arguements with dumb teenage girls who think they own the world at concerts i've been too. When the price is that high they don't come to the show. One instanst in particular was a group of highschoolers at coachella a couple years ago who tired to put one of them on their shoulders so she could see the show. a few words were against, i called the girl a c*nt for acting that way, she called me a fag the group of muscle bears standing next to us, it was the year of the Scissor Sisters and Madonna, made them feel very unwelcome and they left. all of that can be avoided with high tickets prices.


so basically, you want higher ticket prices so you aren't tempted to go around calling teenage girls cunts and make other people feel unwelcome at concerts.

k....
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no, i want people that respect those around them. When they asked us if we minded if they put their friend on their shoulders and everyone around them said they did mind, but they went ahead and did it several things happened. Water bottles being thrown from behind us lots of yelling. I'm sure my calling her a cunt was the least of what happened to them.
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Reply #34 posted 08/23/08 11:36am

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ehuffnsd said:

errant said:



so basically, you want higher ticket prices so you aren't tempted to go around calling teenage girls cunts and make other people feel unwelcome at concerts.

k....
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no, i want people that respect those around them. When they asked us if we minded if they put their friend on their shoulders and everyone around them said they did mind, but they went ahead and did it several things happened. Water bottles being thrown from behind us lots of yelling. I'm sure my calling her a cunt was the least of what happened to them.


yeah, but you still called her a cunt and people threw water at them. doesn't sound like they're the "riff raff" that needs to be kept out with higher prices.
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Reply #35 posted 08/23/08 12:55pm

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Yeah,people never talk about how much money Madonna donates to charity.They never mention her Malawi foundation.They see her as a selfish,greedy bitch rolleyes Meanwhile,it's cool for the rappers to brag about their material possessions and show off their mansions on "Cribs".

Madge donates every year to the LA Aids Walk for Team Ciccone which is helmed by her youngest half-brother. The exact amount is never stated but is listed on his teams site.

Madonna has donated millions and helped raised millions for HIV/AIDS and was one of the first public figures to even talk about it. Even in the early days when Martin was dying she'd go see him even people thought she'd catch from him.


nod I know she does alot for various charities and causes but nobody ever wants to focus on that.They would rather believe that's she's a cold,selfish,greedy bitch.
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Reply #36 posted 08/23/08 1:20pm

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Se7en said:

I think a lot of that pricing strategy has to do with keeping the "riff-raff" out of her shows, and elevating her fanbase. I think she's aiming that price at the fans she wants to have.


hmmm I think alot of it just has to do with the fact that,she CAN charge these prices and still sellout shows.She's no different from anyone else in that she wants to make as much money as she can.Make no mistake about it....many other longtime artists would do the same thing if they could.How many longtime artists wouldn't like to make over $200 million for just three or four months of touring? I bet even Prince would do this,if he could.

We shouldn't be too surprised though.In 1985,she warned us that she is a "material girl" lol
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Reply #37 posted 08/23/08 1:33pm

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I have no idea what I would do with that kind of money. It'd be a full time job just spending it! I've never really understood why people want more than they need. But I can understand it with her -- she likes to excel!
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Reply #38 posted 08/23/08 1:57pm

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yup and the first show should be over by now.
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Reply #39 posted 08/23/08 2:42pm

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SoulAlive said:

ehuffnsd said:


Madge donates every year to the LA Aids Walk for Team Ciccone which is helmed by her youngest half-brother. The exact amount is never stated but is listed on his teams site.

Madonna has donated millions and helped raised millions for HIV/AIDS and was one of the first public figures to even talk about it. Even in the early days when Martin was dying she'd go see him even people thought she'd catch from him.


nod I know she does alot for various charities and causes but nobody ever wants to focus on that.They would rather believe that's she's a cold,selfish,greedy bitch.


You can be a major donor and also be a cold, selfish, greedy bitch. They are not mutually exclusive. It's called a charitable tax receipt, and it's one of the major reasons why those with a lot of money tend to give a lot of it away.

Not saying this is necessarily Madonna's primary reason for donating, but she's openly made a career out of being cold, greedy, selfish and bitchy and even the fans agree on that one.
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Reply #40 posted 08/23/08 2:51pm

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VoicesCarry said:

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nod I know she does alot for various charities and causes but nobody ever wants to focus on that.They would rather believe that's she's a cold,selfish,greedy bitch.


You can be a major donor and also be a cold, selfish, greedy bitch. They are not mutually exclusive. It's called a charitable tax receipt, and it's one of the major reasons why those with a lot of money tend to give a lot of it away.


Bullshit.A person who gives alot of their money to charity and spends alot of their time and effort on various causes is NOT selfish and greedy.Would you say that Bono is a cold,selfish bastard?
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Reply #41 posted 08/23/08 2:53pm

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You can be a major donor and also be a cold, selfish, greedy bitch. They are not mutually exclusive. It's called a charitable tax receipt, and it's one of the major reasons why those with a lot of money tend to give a lot of it away.


Bullshit.A person who gives alot of their money to charity and spends alot of their time and effort on various causes is NOT selfish and greedy.Would you say that Bono is a cold,selfish bastard?


Please reread my statement: I said that it's possible to be a donor and possess those qualities, not that they always go together. You claim that because Madonna donates she somehow cannot be cold, selfish, greedy or bitchy? Now that's fucking ridiculous.

As someone who works in fundraising, let me shatter your illusions that people who give are unselfish and kind. Most often they are looking out primarily for what they can get out of it. Be it name recognition, press or, in the case of most donors, the handy dandy tax receipt.
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Reply #42 posted 08/23/08 2:53pm

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Yeah,people never talk about how much money Madonna donates to charity.They never mention her Malawi foundation.They see her as a selfish,greedy bitch rolleyes Meanwhile,it's cool for the rappers to brag about their material possessions and show off their mansions on "Cribs".

personally, i don't think someone has to give to charity to justify the amount of money they make. there is absolutely nothing wrong with being compensated for, and profiting from, your own ability and skill.

madonna does her thing. she employs and pays people for the assistance they provide, and she expects to be employed and paid for the product she provides. if someone doesn't want to buy it, then someone shouldn't. but to sit and dictate that a person...any person...makes too much money for the skill and ability they use is immoral. yes, immoral! lol

people never point to themselves and say "I make too much money." it's always to someone else this statement is directed. that, in my eyes, is what's really greedy.


Very good point.
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Reply #43 posted 08/23/08 2:54pm

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SoulAlive said:

VoicesCarry said:



You can be a major donor and also be a cold, selfish, greedy bitch. They are not mutually exclusive. It's called a charitable tax receipt, and it's one of the major reasons why those with a lot of money tend to give a lot of it away.


Bullshit.A person who gives alot of their money to charity and spends alot of their time and effort on various causes is NOT selfish and greedy.Would you say that Bono is a cold,selfish bastard?

umm. i know people who donate lots of time and money so they can say "look at what i do for such and such aren't i a great person"

though most of Madge's donations come out of a personal fundation, more than likely that probably has no assoc to her public persona, that her selfless donating. Stuff like Rasising Mawali and other things are also done for ego purposes.
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Reply #44 posted 08/23/08 8:16pm

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Life With My Sister Madonna

Okay, I'll ask this again, as nobody did on my thread. Is Prince mentioned at all in this book?
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Reply #45 posted 08/23/08 9:59pm

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Life With My Sister Madonna

Okay, I'll ask this again, as nobody did on my thread. Is Prince mentioned at all in this book?

i doubt it. Chris wasn't paid staff for his Sister til late 84-early 85 after Prince had come and left the scene.
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