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David Bowie - "Leon" (1994)

I became very interested in this album 2day. cool Can someone who is a David Bowie fan please help me out? cry

On March 12 1994, David Bowie, Brian Eno, Reeves Gabrels, Mike Garson, Erdal Kizilcay and Sterling Cambell improvised a three-and-a-half-hour opus at the Mountain Studios in Montreux. This work formed the basis for the album 1. Outside. As Bowie put it: "One of the days we worked, we had a blindingly orgiastic session where it just didn't stop. Almost the entire genesis for this album is contained in those three-and-a-half hours, but it's nearly all dialogue and narrative description and wandering off into characters. I play out a character for maybe five minutes at a time. I mean, I developed an entire interior life of him whilst I was on the mic".

The recordings were mixed at Westside Studios, London in the summer of 1994 and were intended for release as a double-album. Reeves Gabrels wrote on his website: "We hoped that it would have come out intact and un-compromised by financial/commercial pressures. It would have been a very serious musical statement (and maybe even pissed more people off than Tin Machine)". However, Bowie was unable to interest any record label to release 1. Outside in its original form because it was considered too uncommercial.

Somehow 70 minutes from these mixed recordings have escaped. The CD features tracks that can hardly be called songs, as they do not follow conventional arrangements with verses and choruses. They are more like sketches, often with changes in tempo and structure within a single track. Included below is a run-down of the songs, which, because of their nature, have not been assigned titles unless these are known from other sources. Although only a few tracks ('I Am With Name' and 'Leon Takes Us Outside') ended up on 1. Outside, the story line set out throughout these tracks forms the backbone of the album.

I Am With Name/Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the CD opens with a familiar song, 'I Am With Name', but instead of the 1. Outside's four minutes, this version lasts well over 10 minutes. At 4'00" into the track, Bowie launches into a rap which repeats phrases such as "I won't keep it/It will hide me/He should take them/I won't tell it/She can't take it/He won't do this/He said tell it/She said spot this/He should do this/He should be there" and "It will kill that/He should hide me/I won't hide me/She can't be there/I won't tell it/They won't eat me." At 6'10" Nathan Adler is introduced in a segue which is nearly identical to the first segue from 1. Outside: "Old Touchschriek was the main name-server/Suspected of being a shoulder server or faint a hack/This old guy didn't know from shit about challenge response systems/He was way back in the age of cellular clones/We knew that Ramona A Stone was selling interest drugs, magic cookies [...] But wait, I'm getting ahead of myself/Let me take you back to when it all began." Next is the 'Ramona A Stone' segue that opens the song on 1. Outside, but again with slightly different lyrics. The segue and the song ends with the spoken "We'll creep together, you and I. We know who the small friends are. My, this is a crazy world. At this time, you could think of me as a 'syllannibal'. Someone who eats their own words".

Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the second track, which lasts five minutes, starts as a ballad: "We creep together/We'll creep together, you and I/Just a trick of the two/From the slump male/A mumble slough unreal/How many drew the mark?/We'll creep together, you and I/Way back in the Laugh Hotel/I'll reel out the window/You die for diamonds/But you won't live for love." The song then changes tempo: "I am a rose/I am a face/I am a chrome/I am Ramona A Stone/We'll end in chrome/This is the chrome/This is the chrome, my friend, the chrome".

Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the next outtake (6'45") starts off with a segue that possibly should be contributed to Leon Blank: "Then there was nothing left to do but to bring on the Nut Soldiers/Round out the packet sniffers". It features an introduction to The Leek Soldiers, after which the song continues with a repeated "Twist, fly, boy." At 2'35", Nathan Adler reappears with another excerpt from the first segue which is similar to 1. Outside: "Leon was up on that oh-so-heavenly party stage with a criss-cross machete/He could not wait for 12 o'clock midnight/He slashes around, cuts a zero in everything/I mean a zero in the fabric of time itself." This is followed by a short version of the rap as in the first track and the statement "Some day, the internet may become an information super-highway/Don't make me laugh!/A 19th century railroad that passes through the badlands of the Old West [...] Someday, the internet may become an information super-highway/Do not make me laugh!" At 5'50", the track ends with an excerpt from the 'Algeria Touchshriek' segue.

Leon Takes Us Outside/Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): another familiar song, 'Leon Takes Us Outside', opens the fourth track (6'50"). At 2'00" into this track, Bowie starts exclaiming "Choir!" and after another change in tempo at 2'40" he sings "First time, that I felt your grace/A tear ran down my cheek/The first time that I saw the boil/Put it on the neck." Next enters Nathan Adler with another segue and the song closes with Bowie singing "Moving through the crowd/In Oxford Town/Moving on the sidewalks/Faces to the ground/Oxford Town".

The Crome/Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): this tracks (lasting 5'30") starts off with another Nathan Adler segue: "Someone once said that beauty is only deep-skin/While it has always been a stone in my flesh [...] You're better off without it/I mean, who eats the hard skin now, huh?/It ain't Ramona A Stone, that's for sure". This is followed by the detective singing "All the baby's left at home/And the sky is made of chrome/A breath-filled sky and it's made of chrome/There was a night of an OK riot [...] OK riot, with waving air [...] Yeah, I'd rather be chrome."

We'll Creep Together/Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): 'We'll Creep Together' is also familiar, albeit from the 1. Outside EPK only. However, here the song has two extra verses: "We'll find the small things, you and I/We'll just have small friends, you and I/We'll be small together/We'll be small together/We'll be small together, you and I/We'll end together, you and I/We'll end together, you and I/We'll end together/We'll end together/We'll end together, you and I". The synth line and drums of 'We'll Creep Together' continue into another Nathan Adler segue, which ends with the familiar "But wait, I'm getting ahead of myself". While the track proceeds as an instrumental, Bowie adds a line familiar from 'The Hearts Filthy Lesson': "Oh Ramona, can you hear me/Oh Ramona."

Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the seventh track (5'15") consists entirely of spoken segues: "What are you in terror of?/Life needn't step on baby fingers/The minutes fall and the demons find their ways unencumbered/Half dead, poisoned by their own fatal art". Next is Nathan Adler and following him is Baby Grace Blue: "I think we're stuck in a web/A sort of nerve net/As it were, a sort of nerve-internet, as it were/We might be here for quite a long time, here, in this web or... internet, as it were/Gotta get away, gotta get away".

Nothing To Be Desired/Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): 'Nothing To Be Desired', which was released as a B-side only, forms the basis of the next track (5'50"). The lyrics include "The editors have done an excellent job/The selections are generous, the notations are scrupulously thoroughly/To believe that the quality of a CD-ROM can be conveyed through translation may seem presumptuous, but I believe the enterprise is greatly successful [...] The editorial apparatus of the CD-ROM leaves nothing to be desired." At 2'30" the song changes tempo: "In far-off California, there is no natural plan/Its mighty branching and its preponderant bowls weigh heavy on a sun-tag morning" and at 3'00" the track develops into a long version of the familiar 'Baby Grace Blue' segue: "And then I recognized the small friends, because one of them was a very infamous and he was a grand visionary, he was the grand visionary, he was who was on a television".

The Enemy Is Fragile (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): track eight (4'10") starts off with "Hallo Leon, would you like something really fishy?". On the Stamford Hill site, Reeves Gabrels identified this track as 'The Enemy Is Fragile'. "The enemy is always there/You could have been fighting to the death, but no!/Well, wrap up, and you'll go dancing, Leon!/Dance fishy?/Something in her mouth/There's something in her mouth/Something mysterious".

Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): next is a 2'23" piano ballad. The atmosphere of this track is quite similar to 'The Motel'.

Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the penultimate track on the CD is a long version of the 'Algeria Touchshriek' segue, lasting five minutes: "Possibly, just maybe, after a nice cup of tea/Some trip of the time/We'll creep together down the memory lane/And then we'll be blind and full of bubbly ambition/Instead of the slump males that we are/Looking through windows for demons/Watching the young advance in all electric".

Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the final track, rather clumsily mixed in when the Touchshriek track fades out, is a totally different, up-tempo song: "Leon, lift up your eyes/The very stars are calling/Your name is Leon/Leon is your name/Murder!".


Are there any David Bowie fans here who have the "Outside" outtakes (also known as the "Leon" tapes) who can share them with me through PMs? I've searched all over the net 4 them 2day & can't find them anywhere. Anyplace I look, it's either an expired link or I have 2 pay 2 join the website b4 I can download the torrent file. The "Leon" tapes first leaked on2 the Internet in March 2003, I read. Why is it so hard 2 find the songs 4 free? confused Anyway, I read David Bowie recorded about 24 hours of material (WOW that's a lot!! eek) 4 the "Leon"/"Outside" album project. Also, if U have any/all of these "Outside" outtakes: smile

1."The Animals" (from the "Showgirls" soundtrack)
2."Nothing To Be Desired" (from "The Hearts Filthy Lesson" single)
3."Get Real" (from the "Outside" Japanese edition)

Or any of the extended versions/remixes from the "Outside" special edition or from the 2-CD edition in the new "Bowie Box Set", PLEASE share them with me through PMs & well, eye have some things by Prince that U might like! biggrin cool wink
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Reply #1 posted 02/21/08 9:37pm

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Whoa. Gimme a minute here.
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Reply #2 posted 02/21/08 10:28pm

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Got 'em. Have no idea where they are. GF has them though.

I can't remember being all that impressed with them. But there wasn't really much to them, as far as I remember.
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Reply #3 posted 02/21/08 11:39pm

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Raze said:

Got 'em. Have no idea where they are. GF has them though.

I can't remember being all that impressed with them. But there wasn't really much to them, as far as I remember.


OK, that's cool, and I hope U or GangstaFam can share PM with me any/all of these songs from the "Outside" era: wink

Leon Takes Us Outside
Outside
The Heart's Filthy Lesson
A Small Plot Of Land
Baby Grace (A Horrid Cassette)
Hallo Spaceboy
The Motel
I Have Not Been To Oxford Town
No Control
Algeria Touchshriek
The Voyeur Of Utter Destruction (As Beauty)
Ramona A. Stone/I Am With Name
Wishful Beginnings
We Prick You
Nathan Adler
I'm Deranged
Thru These Architect's Eyes
Nathan Adler (Pt. 2)
Strangers When We Meet
The Heart's Filthy Lesson [Trent Reznor Alternative Mix]
The Heart's Filthy Lesson [Rubber Mix]
The Heart's Filthy Lesson [Simple Test Mix]
The Heart's Filthy Lesson [Filthy Mix]
The Heart's Filthy Lesson [Good Karma Mix by Tim Simenon]
Small Plot of Land [Basquiat Ost. Version]
Hallo Spaceboy [12" Remix]
Hallo Spaceboy [Double Click Mix]
Hallo Spaceboy [Instrumental]
Hallo Spaceboy [Lost in Space Mix]
I Am With Name
I'm Deranged [Jungle Mix]
I Am With Name/Unknown (unreleased 10 min. version)
Unknown (The Crome??)
We'll Creep Together/Unknown
The Enemy Is Fragile
PLUS 7 OR 8 UNKNOWN TRACKS FROM "LEON",
The Animals,
Nothing To Be Desired,
and Get Real.

oh PRETTY PLEASE!! pray
PS: I have a lot of songs by Prince 2 share, in return. Afterwards, I'll give U a list & then U can pick from it what U want. thumbs up!
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Whoa. Gimme a minute here.


So then, U have them? smile I PMed ya.
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Reply #5 posted 02/22/08 10:14pm

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Also here's a 3-part video doc. about David Bowie's "Outside": cool




And I just heard from a David Bowie interview that he was getting high on a lot of drugs blunt eek back in 94 during the "Leon"/"Outside" musical era, so that would xplain the weirdness of the music he recorded from the "Leon"/"Outside" period! falloff wacky lol I just thought U like 2 know! wink
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I've got three CDs of Outside Outtakes. They're mind-blowingly good, but bear very little resemblance to the finished album. They're more a sound collage than proper songs.
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raveun2thejoyfantastic said:

I became very interested in this album 2day. cool Can someone who is a David Bowie fan please help me out? cry

On March 12 1994, David Bowie, Brian Eno, Reeves Gabrels, Mike Garson, Erdal Kizilcay and Sterling Cambell improvised a three-and-a-half-hour opus at the Mountain Studios in Montreux. This work formed the basis for the album 1. Outside. As Bowie put it: "One of the days we worked, we had a blindingly orgiastic session where it just didn't stop. Almost the entire genesis for this album is contained in those three-and-a-half hours, but it's nearly all dialogue and narrative description and wandering off into characters. I play out a character for maybe five minutes at a time. I mean, I developed an entire interior life of him whilst I was on the mic".

The recordings were mixed at Westside Studios, London in the summer of 1994 and were intended for release as a double-album. Reeves Gabrels wrote on his website: "We hoped that it would have come out intact and un-compromised by financial/commercial pressures. It would have been a very serious musical statement (and maybe even pissed more people off than Tin Machine)". However, Bowie was unable to interest any record label to release 1. Outside in its original form because it was considered too uncommercial.

Somehow 70 minutes from these mixed recordings have escaped. The CD features tracks that can hardly be called songs, as they do not follow conventional arrangements with verses and choruses. They are more like sketches, often with changes in tempo and structure within a single track. Included below is a run-down of the songs, which, because of their nature, have not been assigned titles unless these are known from other sources. Although only a few tracks ('I Am With Name' and 'Leon Takes Us Outside') ended up on 1. Outside, the story line set out throughout these tracks forms the backbone of the album.

I Am With Name/Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the CD opens with a familiar song, 'I Am With Name', but instead of the 1. Outside's four minutes, this version lasts well over 10 minutes. At 4'00" into the track, Bowie launches into a rap which repeats phrases such as "I won't keep it/It will hide me/He should take them/I won't tell it/She can't take it/He won't do this/He said tell it/She said spot this/He should do this/He should be there" and "It will kill that/He should hide me/I won't hide me/She can't be there/I won't tell it/They won't eat me." At 6'10" Nathan Adler is introduced in a segue which is nearly identical to the first segue from 1. Outside: "Old Touchschriek was the main name-server/Suspected of being a shoulder server or faint a hack/This old guy didn't know from shit about challenge response systems/He was way back in the age of cellular clones/We knew that Ramona A Stone was selling interest drugs, magic cookies [...] But wait, I'm getting ahead of myself/Let me take you back to when it all began." Next is the 'Ramona A Stone' segue that opens the song on 1. Outside, but again with slightly different lyrics. The segue and the song ends with the spoken "We'll creep together, you and I. We know who the small friends are. My, this is a crazy world. At this time, you could think of me as a 'syllannibal'. Someone who eats their own words".

Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the second track, which lasts five minutes, starts as a ballad: "We creep together/We'll creep together, you and I/Just a trick of the two/From the slump male/A mumble slough unreal/How many drew the mark?/We'll creep together, you and I/Way back in the Laugh Hotel/I'll reel out the window/You die for diamonds/But you won't live for love." The song then changes tempo: "I am a rose/I am a face/I am a chrome/I am Ramona A Stone/We'll end in chrome/This is the chrome/This is the chrome, my friend, the chrome".

Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the next outtake (6'45") starts off with a segue that possibly should be contributed to Leon Blank: "Then there was nothing left to do but to bring on the Nut Soldiers/Round out the packet sniffers". It features an introduction to The Leek Soldiers, after which the song continues with a repeated "Twist, fly, boy." At 2'35", Nathan Adler reappears with another excerpt from the first segue which is similar to 1. Outside: "Leon was up on that oh-so-heavenly party stage with a criss-cross machete/He could not wait for 12 o'clock midnight/He slashes around, cuts a zero in everything/I mean a zero in the fabric of time itself." This is followed by a short version of the rap as in the first track and the statement "Some day, the internet may become an information super-highway/Don't make me laugh!/A 19th century railroad that passes through the badlands of the Old West [...] Someday, the internet may become an information super-highway/Do not make me laugh!" At 5'50", the track ends with an excerpt from the 'Algeria Touchshriek' segue.

Leon Takes Us Outside/Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): another familiar song, 'Leon Takes Us Outside', opens the fourth track (6'50"). At 2'00" into this track, Bowie starts exclaiming "Choir!" and after another change in tempo at 2'40" he sings "First time, that I felt your grace/A tear ran down my cheek/The first time that I saw the boil/Put it on the neck." Next enters Nathan Adler with another segue and the song closes with Bowie singing "Moving through the crowd/In Oxford Town/Moving on the sidewalks/Faces to the ground/Oxford Town".

The Crome/Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): this tracks (lasting 5'30") starts off with another Nathan Adler segue: "Someone once said that beauty is only deep-skin/While it has always been a stone in my flesh [...] You're better off without it/I mean, who eats the hard skin now, huh?/It ain't Ramona A Stone, that's for sure". This is followed by the detective singing "All the baby's left at home/And the sky is made of chrome/A breath-filled sky and it's made of chrome/There was a night of an OK riot [...] OK riot, with waving air [...] Yeah, I'd rather be chrome."

We'll Creep Together/Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): 'We'll Creep Together' is also familiar, albeit from the 1. Outside EPK only. However, here the song has two extra verses: "We'll find the small things, you and I/We'll just have small friends, you and I/We'll be small together/We'll be small together/We'll be small together, you and I/We'll end together, you and I/We'll end together, you and I/We'll end together/We'll end together/We'll end together, you and I". The synth line and drums of 'We'll Creep Together' continue into another Nathan Adler segue, which ends with the familiar "But wait, I'm getting ahead of myself". While the track proceeds as an instrumental, Bowie adds a line familiar from 'The Hearts Filthy Lesson': "Oh Ramona, can you hear me/Oh Ramona."

Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the seventh track (5'15") consists entirely of spoken segues: "What are you in terror of?/Life needn't step on baby fingers/The minutes fall and the demons find their ways unencumbered/Half dead, poisoned by their own fatal art". Next is Nathan Adler and following him is Baby Grace Blue: "I think we're stuck in a web/A sort of nerve net/As it were, a sort of nerve-internet, as it were/We might be here for quite a long time, here, in this web or... internet, as it were/Gotta get away, gotta get away".

Nothing To Be Desired/Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): 'Nothing To Be Desired', which was released as a B-side only, forms the basis of the next track (5'50"). The lyrics include "The editors have done an excellent job/The selections are generous, the notations are scrupulously thoroughly/To believe that the quality of a CD-ROM can be conveyed through translation may seem presumptuous, but I believe the enterprise is greatly successful [...] The editorial apparatus of the CD-ROM leaves nothing to be desired." At 2'30" the song changes tempo: "In far-off California, there is no natural plan/Its mighty branching and its preponderant bowls weigh heavy on a sun-tag morning" and at 3'00" the track develops into a long version of the familiar 'Baby Grace Blue' segue: "And then I recognized the small friends, because one of them was a very infamous and he was a grand visionary, he was the grand visionary, he was who was on a television".

The Enemy Is Fragile (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): track eight (4'10") starts off with "Hallo Leon, would you like something really fishy?". On the Stamford Hill site, Reeves Gabrels identified this track as 'The Enemy Is Fragile'. "The enemy is always there/You could have been fighting to the death, but no!/Well, wrap up, and you'll go dancing, Leon!/Dance fishy?/Something in her mouth/There's something in her mouth/Something mysterious".

Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): next is a 2'23" piano ballad. The atmosphere of this track is quite similar to 'The Motel'.

Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the penultimate track on the CD is a long version of the 'Algeria Touchshriek' segue, lasting five minutes: "Possibly, just maybe, after a nice cup of tea/Some trip of the time/We'll creep together down the memory lane/And then we'll be blind and full of bubbly ambition/Instead of the slump males that we are/Looking through windows for demons/Watching the young advance in all electric".

Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the final track, rather clumsily mixed in when the Touchshriek track fades out, is a totally different, up-tempo song: "Leon, lift up your eyes/The very stars are calling/Your name is Leon/Leon is your name/Murder!".


Are there any David Bowie fans here who have the "Outside" outtakes (also known as the "Leon" tapes) who can share them with me through PMs? I've searched all over the net 4 them 2day & can't find them anywhere. Anyplace I look, it's either an expired link or I have 2 pay 2 join the website b4 I can download the torrent file. The "Leon" tapes first leaked on2 the Internet in March 2003, I read. Why is it so hard 2 find the songs 4 free? confused Anyway, I read David Bowie recorded about 24 hours of material (WOW that's a lot!! eek) 4 the "Leon"/"Outside" album project. Also, if U have any/all of these "Outside" outtakes: smile

1."The Animals" (from the "Showgirls" soundtrack)
2."Nothing To Be Desired" (from "The Hearts Filthy Lesson" single)
3."Get Real" (from the "Outside" Japanese edition)

Or any of the extended versions/remixes from the "Outside" special edition or from the 2-CD edition in the new "Bowie Box Set", PLEASE share them with me through PMs & well, eye have some things by Prince that U might like! biggrin cool wink
[Edited 2/21/08 21:41pm]



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Reply #8 posted 02/23/08 1:29pm

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Shapeshifter said:

Give me a couple of days and this Jean Genie will grant your wishes ....
wink


giggle O.K. WOW thank U! I'm downloading the "Outside" album right now & would love to have all the outtakes. Then, I'll PM you so U can pick from my list of rare Prince songs, what U want in return. cool
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Reply #9 posted 02/23/08 2:00pm

Miles

'Outside' is a very interesting Bowie album imo, if not his most accessible.

He has clearly heard Scott Walker's beautiful but mad album, 'Tilt', released around the time 'Outside' was recorded IIRC - an important influence on 'Outside' musically and on Bowie vocally at the time, I'd say.

Bowie has always had a low attention span when it comes to album projects. '1.Outside' was intended to be the first in a series of linked concept albums, and I've read that the bare bones of the second one do exist (perhaps these are the 'Leon' tapes already being discussed?), but, I doubt these will see official release. Bowie quickly moved onto the 'Earthling' project just as the 'Outside' tour finished IIRC.

Having said that, 'Earthling' gets a lot more airings in my house than 'Outside' smile - 'Dead Man Walking' cool smile

I know he's recently resurfaced on somebody's album as a featured vocalist on a couple of tracks, but I'm beginning to wonder if, following his serious heart scare, he might have basically retired. I could understand if touring were a no no in future, but no new material for, like four years now, I think eek neutral.
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Miles said:

'Outside' is a very interesting Bowie album imo, if not his most accessible.

He has clearly heard Scott Walker's beautiful but mad album, 'Tilt', released around the time 'Outside' was recorded IIRC - an important influence on 'Outside' musically and on Bowie vocally at the time, I'd say.

Bowie has always had a low attention span when it comes to album projects. '1.Outside' was intended to be the first in a series of linked concept albums, and I've read that the bare bones of the second one do exist (perhaps these are the 'Leon' tapes already being discussed?), but, I doubt these will see official release. Bowie quickly moved onto the 'Earthling' project just as the 'Outside' tour finished IIRC.

Having said that, 'Earthling' gets a lot more airings in my house than 'Outside' smile - 'Dead Man Walking' cool smile

I know he's recently resurfaced on somebody's album as a featured vocalist on a couple of tracks, but I'm beginning to wonder if, following his serious heart scare, he might have basically retired. I could understand if touring were a no no in future, but no new material for, like four years now, I think eek neutral.


The album David Bowie is featured on is "Anywhere I Lay My Head" by Scarlett Johannson, which comes out May 20th.

Also, the sequel to "1.Outside" was supposedly called "2.Contamination" & here's the tracklist (I don't know if it's real, though shrug)
1. segue - A Brief Inquisition (0:45)
2. Contamination (5:13)
3. Ebola Jazz (4:28)
4. A Fragmented Line (2:06)
5. The Hive Of No Desire (5:33)
6. segue - The Mad Ramblings of Long Beard (1:15)
7. Ill Refute (5:06)
8. A Tribe From The Ghost Plains (4:33)
9. Drawing A Blank (3:48)
10. Mausoleum (4:25)
11. Serengeti Song (7:34)
12. segue - The Fever Is Still (0:32)
13. Dream Child (5:52)
14. Crazed In The Hot-Zone (4:51)
15. Wiredlife (3:03)
16. Verona No More (3:55)
17. The Only Part Of My Days (4:43)
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Reply #11 posted 02/23/08 2:37pm

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Miles said:

'Outside' is a very interesting Bowie album imo, if not his most accessible.

He has clearly heard Scott Walker's beautiful but mad album, 'Tilt', released around the time 'Outside' was recorded IIRC - an important influence on 'Outside' musically and on Bowie vocally at the time, I'd say.

Bowie has always had a low attention span when it comes to album projects. '1.Outside' was intended to be the first in a series of linked concept albums, and I've read that the bare bones of the second one do exist (perhaps these are the 'Leon' tapes already being discussed?), but, I doubt these will see official release. Bowie quickly moved onto the 'Earthling' project just as the 'Outside' tour finished IIRC.

Having said that, 'Earthling' gets a lot more airings in my house than 'Outside' smile - 'Dead Man Walking' cool smile

I know he's recently resurfaced on somebody's album as a featured vocalist on a couple of tracks, but I'm beginning to wonder if, following his serious heart scare, he might have basically retired. I could understand if touring were a no no in future, but no new material for, like four years now, I think eek neutral.


The album David Bowie is featured on is "Anywhere I Lay My Head" by Scarlett Johannson, which comes out May 20th.

Also, the sequel to "1.Outside" was supposedly called "2.Contamination" & here's the tracklist (I don't know if it's real, though shrug)
1. segue - A Brief Inquisition (0:45)
2. Contamination (5:13)
3. Ebola Jazz (4:28)
4. A Fragmented Line (2:06)
5. The Hive Of No Desire (5:33)
6. segue - The Mad Ramblings of Long Beard (1:15)
7. Ill Refute (5:06)
8. A Tribe From The Ghost Plains (4:33)
9. Drawing A Blank (3:48)
10. Mausoleum (4:25)
11. Serengeti Song (7:34)
12. segue - The Fever Is Still (0:32)
13. Dream Child (5:52)
14. Crazed In The Hot-Zone (4:51)
15. Wiredlife (3:03)
16. Verona No More (3:55)
17. The Only Part Of My Days (4:43)



Definitely a fake track list. Contamination was part of the 70 odd hours of material Bowie recorded with Eno - sessions which included the basis much of what wound up on Outside.

Tilt came out in April 1995, Outside in September 95 (I think). While there are very tenuous similarities between the the two, I doubt Bowie heard Tilt before he conceived Outside. Outside was recorded the previous year, when Walker was putting the finishing touches to Tilt.

The nearest Bowie came to emulating Tilt was the song he recorded with Goldie for the latter's Saturn Returnz album - Truth. It sounds like a homage to Tilt.
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Reply #12 posted 02/23/08 2:48pm

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Miles said:

'Outside' is a very interesting Bowie album imo, if not his most accessible.

He has clearly heard Scott Walker's beautiful but mad album, 'Tilt', released around the time 'Outside' was recorded IIRC - an important influence on 'Outside' musically and on Bowie vocally at the time, I'd say.

Bowie has always had a low attention span when it comes to album projects. '1.Outside' was intended to be the first in a series of linked concept albums, and I've read that the bare bones of the second one do exist (perhaps these are the 'Leon' tapes already being discussed?), but, I doubt these will see official release. Bowie quickly moved onto the 'Earthling' project just as the 'Outside' tour finished IIRC.

Having said that, 'Earthling' gets a lot more airings in my house than 'Outside' smile - 'Dead Man Walking' cool smile

I know he's recently resurfaced on somebody's album as a featured vocalist on a couple of tracks, but I'm beginning to wonder if, following his serious heart scare, he might have basically retired. I could understand if touring were a no no in future, but no new material for, like four years now, I think eek neutral.
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I don't think he's stopped making music. I think he's stopped releasing it for now. After his heart attack, he said he was pissed off with Sony and dismayed by the music industry in general.

I doubt he'll do a full-scare tour again though.
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Umm, it's been a week so...do U have them songs yet, please? wink I just PMed U, Shapeshifter.
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Thank U, Shapeshifter. thumbs up!
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Reply #15 posted 03/08/08 1:44am

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Thank U, Shapeshifter. thumbs up!



You're welcome. Bet you hate them, right? wink lol
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Reply #16 posted 03/08/08 2:42am

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I've got three CDs of Outside Outtakes. They're mind-blowingly good, but bear very little resemblance to the finished album. They're more a sound collage than proper songs.
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Hi all.

I really love the Bowie's "Outside" era (my favourite album of his together with "Low").

I'm aware of the tracks that emerged some years ago, even if what I listened to was a shortened version of the full 70 minutes outtakes which are listed above.

I'm just curious to know how is the material on the 3 cds you talk of, and eventually to know the tracklist.

If you can post details. Thank you.
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raveun2thejoyfantastic said:

Thank U, Shapeshifter. thumbs up!



You're welcome. Bet you hate them, right? wink lol


Nope I heart them, infact I shared it with some fans at a David Bowie forum, hope U don't mind. wink
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Reply #18 posted 03/08/08 9:05am

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Shapeshifter said:




You're welcome. Bet you hate them, right? wink lol


Nope I heart them, infact I shared it with some fans at a David Bowie forum, hope U don't mind. wink


No, you're welcome to. It's not like they're my private property. lol

Glad you like 'em.
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