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Reply #570 posted 03/05/08 7:36pm

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Has anyone found it interesting and unique of how Erykah's music has evolved over the years?

First, she stormed the music scene with the monster single that was On & On and the landmark release of Baduizm, which was both an exceptional and revolutionary record. It was something really different for not only the neo-soul generation, but soul and pop music. I mean, here's this woman who wore African attire (with the trademark hair wrap) singing personal, poetic, and cryptic songs on love, observation, and life. With this album, Badu brought hip-hop's beats to her neo-jazz soul. She also addressed much of the world's past and present issues, which was really interesting. Even with the release of the Live album, she not only sang the killer cuts from the Baduizm record, but she performed covers of "Searching", "All Night Long", and "Stay", which displayed her musical influences and diverse love for music also.

Then, she came back really strong, a couple of years later, with the release of Mama's Gun, which really moved so many folks (including myself). I mean, everything that was done on that album was a classic example of how real music from the heart, soul, and mind should be delivered. It was her most effective and strongest record because of the topics she brought up such as self-esteem, relationship breakdowns, and police brutality. It also had an eclectic, organic, and orginal sound, reflecting how far she wanted to go with her music. Never before did people really hear her true emotions and personality. And if you couldn't feel the guilt, hurt, and pain of the epic, 'Green Eyes', then you didn't really have love for yourself nor Miss Badu. When I first heard this song in 2002, I cried like a baby. I could really connect to what she was talking about throughout the whole song. It was like she was talking to me and shared the same pain I had at that time. I think all 14 joints on that album just made me realize that Badu wasn't this by-the-number neo-soul singer. This record alone solidified her status as a true artist. Mama's Gun represented a woman who was unmasked and able to express her emotion and feelings through song. That was her true masterpiece!

Three years later, she released the brave follow-up entitled, Worldwide Underground and that time she grooved more than speaking. Still, nearly everything on that so-called EP rang true. Even though the production was more electronic and jam-based, Erykah still was able to go against the grain and do something conceptually different.

Now in 2008, she delivers New AmErykah: Part One and she has once again proves that she is a powerful force in music today. This time around, it's deeper and darker, than anything she has done and the grooves are undeniably addictive. She speaks loudly on the world and her life in a very brilliant way. It rocks your boots off. I think that with this whole series, in parts one and two, she pushs her artistry to a whole new plateau and stunningly dones something new. That's the thing I love about our analog girl in a digital world.
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Reply #571 posted 03/05/08 9:49pm

Cinnie

purplecam said:

from the words of Prince cause it fits perfectly:

This isn't music, this is a trip!


horns

(The CD finally was in Canada's stores as of yesterday)


I am travelling with the vibes.. jet fro afro pick cloud9
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Reply #572 posted 03/05/08 10:20pm

Alamine

Musical noodling at its worst. Don't see the big hype outside of the album cover about this album. The songwriting is horrid.
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Reply #573 posted 03/05/08 10:25pm

Alamine

silverchild said:

Has anyone found it interesting and unique of how Erykah's music has evolved over the years?

First, she stormed the music scene with the monster single that was On & On and the landmark release of Baduizm, which was both an exceptional and revolutionary record. It was something really different for not only the neo-soul generation, but soul and pop music. I mean, here's this woman who wore African attire (with the trademark hair wrap) singing personal, poetic, and cryptic songs on love, observation, and life. With this album, Badu brought hip-hop's beats to her neo-jazz soul. She also addressed much of the world's past and present issues, which was really interesting. Even with the release of the Live album, she not only sang the killer cuts from the Baduizm record, but she performed covers of "Searching", "All Night Long", and "Stay", which displayed her musical influences and diverse love for music also.

Then, she came back really strong, a couple of years later, with the release of Mama's Gun, which really moved so many folks (including myself). I mean, everything that was done on that album was a classic example of how real music from the heart, soul, and mind should be delivered. It was her most effective and strongest record because of the topics she brought up such as self-esteem, relationship breakdowns, and police brutality. It also had an eclectic, organic, and orginal sound, reflecting how far she wanted to go with her music. Never before did people really hear her true emotions and personality. And if you couldn't feel the guilt, hurt, and pain of the epic, 'Green Eyes', then you didn't really have love for yourself nor Miss Badu. When I first heard this song in 2002, I cried like a baby. I could really connect to what she was talking about throughout the whole song. It was like she was talking to me and shared the same pain I had at that time. I think all 14 joints on that album just made me realize that Badu wasn't this by-the-number neo-soul singer. This record alone solidified her status as a true artist. Mama's Gun represented a woman who was unmasked and able to express her emotion and feelings through song. That was her true masterpiece!

Three years later, she released the brave follow-up entitled, Worldwide Underground and that time she grooved more than speaking. Still, nearly everything on that so-called EP rang true. Even though the production was more electronic and jam-based, Erykah still was able to go against the grain and do something conceptually different.

Now in 2008, she delivers New AmErykah: Part One and she has once again proves that she is a powerful force in music today. This time around, it's deeper and darker, than anything she has done and the grooves are undeniably addictive. She speaks loudly on the world and her life in a very brilliant way. It rocks your boots off. I think that with this whole series, in parts one and two, she pushs her artistry to a whole new plateau and stunningly dones something new. That's the thing I love about our analog girl in a digital world.




Evolved into what though? The new album needed better production, and some direction. The vocals on this album, blah. Worldwideunderground was bullshit. LOL
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Reply #574 posted 03/06/08 2:28am

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Alamine said:

Musical noodling at its worst. Don't see the big hype outside of the album cover about this album. The songwriting is horrid.

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Reply #575 posted 03/06/08 7:01am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

OK, I know I can't be the only one who noticed this but the time listed for the tracks does not coincide with the time of most of the actual songs on the CD. Has anyone pieced together any significance of the extra portions of each song? I kind of went through and tried to see if there might be a message there but I don't think so. Also, does anyone know what the 42 laws might be that Analog girl says she lost at the end of the first track?


I haven’t noticed the timing on the songs yet but I’m almost positive the 42 laws is a reference to the 42 Laws of Ma’at – the Egyptian Goddess of truth, balance and justice. She is usually depicted a scale with a feather on one side and a heart in the other. If your heart outweighs the feather you have done wrong in your life. The laws are the divine principles to live by but of course some have been tweaked to suit modern understanding and times. Some consider several of them to be the foundation for the Ten Commandments.

On Twinkle I think the guy speaking in ancient Kemet says something about Ma’at but not sure.
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Reply #576 posted 03/06/08 7:04am

Graycap23

Alamine said:

Musical noodling at its worst. Don't see the big hype outside of the album cover about this album. The songwriting is horrid.

The finance background in me won't allow me 2 go over 100% agreement with U, but in this case, I agree with U 1,000,000%
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Reply #577 posted 03/06/08 10:30am

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I have only listened once, (in headphones, but I didn't get to the last two songs) so it wouldn't be fair to try to give a real review of this record, but it's so different I had to make a comment.

I was listening, thinking, these aren't really even songs, they're sounds. But each track is something I've never heard before. There were moments that reminded me of Radiohead, in brilliance and annoyance smile

One second I was inspired, and the next I was thinking "this absolutely sucks." lol

I felt at times like it was beautiful for an artist to get so deep into making cool noises like this, and how do they create such new sounds with such confidence? And I wondered, does this album contain an actual melody? And has Erikyah smoked even more weed than I did in my 20's?

I think maybe she has--for better or worse? I don't know yet.
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Reply #578 posted 03/06/08 5:29pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

sassybritches said:


trying too hard to be avante garde or something, lol.

for instance, "my people" has an amazing sound but why just the chant? why no lyrics, just some high pitch talking and squeeking. i like the song but i like it as background not as something to get into.

the end of "me" is the same sort of thing. it's cool for a few seconds but a full minute of this? just seems like she wants people to say, "oh that erykah, she's gone crazy" and it doesn't come off as sincere.


Sassy, she's a Pisces and as a Pisces you'll have to just trust me when I say that she is just wanderin, checkin out the scenery lol Like a little fish that stumbled upon a big cave, eager to explore. Our personal journeys tend to be like that nod

oh i get what she's doing and all that...don't know much about zodiac and all that stuff, but...its just that i thought her experimentation was perfectly balanced on mama's gun and even moreso on worldwide underground. on this record, at times it comes off like she's more interested in experimenting rather than making music. see, i think the experimenting should happen in the lab (or the studio, in the case of music) and the finished product should be an experiment that showcases music rather than a music that showcases an experiment.

this belief, of course, has outliers such as bitches brew and a love supreme, lol!
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Reply #579 posted 03/06/08 6:49pm

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Alamine said:

Musical noodling at its worst. Don't see the big hype outside of the album cover about this album. The songwriting is horrid.


Im guessing The Rainbow Children was too much for you 2 ha?
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Reply #580 posted 03/06/08 7:23pm

MsLegs

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"4th World War," the first half of Erykah Badu's double album series "New Amerykah," debuts at No. 2, selling 124,000 copies.

It's the R&B singer's first studio effort since 2003's "Worldwide Underground," an EP that began at No. 3 with 144,000. The second, as-yet-untitled portion "New Amerykah" is due some time this summer via Universal Motown. (Source: Billboard)

nod Release competition was going on during this time around.
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Reply #581 posted 03/06/08 7:23pm

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I am honestly surprised that the reaction to New Amerykah was mainly, estatically positive on these boards.

I know a lot of Erykah fans who just don't like it. My initial reaction was very negative. But, I listened a few more times and found some cuts that I really like, but overall I just can't get into the album as a whole. The first four songs drive me nuts. The album is competent, but I just don't agree with the claims that it is in anyway breaking new ground or revolutionary.

Anyway, one of the best things in life is music you love, so I don't want to piss all over those of you who enjoy the album. I'm happy that you have new music that you enjoy. Wish I did too.
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Reply #582 posted 03/06/08 7:25pm

MsLegs

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If the music is half as dope as the cover.... cool

The proof is in the pudding.
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Reply #583 posted 03/06/08 7:27pm

MsLegs

unkemptpueblo said:

Dance said:

This should be her album cover:



or maybe this



that should be my house plant. lol

ohgoonLord Have Mercy. You ain't right. lol
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Reply #584 posted 03/07/08 6:26am

Graycap23

paisleypark4 said:

Alamine said:

Musical noodling at its worst. Don't see the big hype outside of the album cover about this album. The songwriting is horrid.


Im guessing The Rainbow Children was too much for you 2 ha?

PP4, please tell me that u are NOT comparing this dribble 2 The Rainbow Children.....
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Reply #585 posted 03/07/08 6:27am

Graycap23

coltrane3 said:

I am honestly surprised that the reaction to New Amerykah was mainly, estatically positive on these boards.

I know a lot of Erykah fans who just don't like it. My initial reaction was very negative. But, I listened a few more times and found some cuts that I really like, but overall I just can't get into the album as a whole. The first four songs drive me nuts. The album is competent, but I just don't agree with the claims that it is in anyway breaking new ground or revolutionary.

Anyway, one of the best things in life is music you love, so I don't want to piss all over those of you who enjoy the album. I'm happy that you have new music that you enjoy. Wish I did too.

Co-sign.
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Reply #586 posted 03/07/08 8:04am

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Graycap23 said:

paisleypark4 said:



Im guessing The Rainbow Children was too much for you 2 ha?

PP4, please tell me that u are NOT comparing this dribble 2 The Rainbow Children.....

Yeah, let's not insult Erykah like that. lol
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Reply #587 posted 03/07/08 8:09am

Graycap23

AlexdeParis said:

Graycap23 said:


PP4, please tell me that u are NOT comparing this dribble 2 The Rainbow Children.....

Yeah, let's not insult Erykah like that. lol

Now that is the funniest thing I've read here in weeks. Thanks 4 that laugh. lol
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Reply #588 posted 03/07/08 8:12am

Empress

Graycap23 said:

AlexdeParis said:


Yeah, let's not insult Erykah like that. lol

Now that is the funniest thing I've read here in weeks. Thanks 4 that laugh. lol


I nearly spewed my cornflakes!

Some people don't have a clue about great musicianship.
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Reply #589 posted 03/07/08 8:14am

Graycap23

Empress said:

Graycap23 said:


Now that is the funniest thing I've read here in weeks. Thanks 4 that laugh. lol


I nearly spewed my cornflakes!

Some people don't have a clue about great musicianship.

U got that right. Just take a look at the Billborad Top 5,000.
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Reply #590 posted 03/07/08 8:20am

Empress

Graycap23 said:

Empress said:



I nearly spewed my cornflakes!

Some people don't have a clue about great musicianship.

U got that right. Just take a look at the Billborad Top 5,000.


Oh, I hear you! People going gaga over Janet and Erykah. I just don't get it, but I guess we all have moments of weakness. I'm lovin the new Lenny Kravitz cd wink
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Reply #591 posted 03/07/08 8:22am

Graycap23

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Graycap23 said:


U got that right. Just take a look at the Billborad Top 5,000.


Oh, I hear you! People going gaga over Janet and Erykah. I just don't get it, but I guess we all have moments of weakness. I'm lovin the new Lenny Kravitz cd wink

I have not checked out Lenny yet. I've been busy listening 2 my own work. Maybe I'll peep Lenny this weekend.
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Reply #592 posted 03/07/08 8:24am

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Graycap23 said:

AlexdeParis said:


Yeah, let's not insult Erykah like that. lol

Now that is the funniest thing I've read here in weeks. Thanks 4 that laugh. lol

Glad I could help. nod
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Reply #593 posted 03/07/08 8:26am

Empress

Graycap23 said:

Empress said:



Oh, I hear you! People going gaga over Janet and Erykah. I just don't get it, but I guess we all have moments of weakness. I'm lovin the new Lenny Kravitz cd wink

I have not checked out Lenny yet. I've been busy listening 2 my own work. Maybe I'll peep Lenny this weekend.


Well, it's far from groundbreaking, but if you're a fan you should like it and it's also much better than his last cd.
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Reply #594 posted 03/07/08 8:27am

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Empress said:

Graycap23 said:


Now that is the funniest thing I've read here in weeks. Thanks 4 that laugh. lol


I nearly spewed my cornflakes!

Some people don't have a clue about great musicianship.

rolleyes Sign 'O' The Times is great musicianship; The Rainbow Children is pretentious and largely boring.

Corn Flakes? Some people don't have a clue about great cereal. lol
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Reply #595 posted 03/07/08 8:29am

Graycap23

AlexdeParis said:

Empress said:



I nearly spewed my cornflakes!

Some people don't have a clue about great musicianship.

rolleyes Sign 'O' The Times is great musicianship; The Rainbow Children is pretentious and largely boring.

Corn Flakes? Some people don't have a clue about great cereal. lol

As opposed 2 Amerykah? Wow.....I'm speechless.
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Reply #596 posted 03/07/08 8:40am

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Graycap23 said:

AlexdeParis said:


rolleyes Sign 'O' The Times is great musicianship; The Rainbow Children is pretentious and largely boring.

Corn Flakes? Some people don't have a clue about great cereal. lol

As opposed 2 Amerykah? Wow.....I'm speechless.

nod
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Reply #597 posted 03/07/08 9:41am

llf553

I put this CD in my everyday playlist and moved on . . . for about 2 days!

I had to go back to listening to this thing on repeat. Me, Soldier, The Cell, That Hump, Telephone, Honey . . . I like how I feel listening to this!!
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Reply #598 posted 03/07/08 9:56am

Empress

AlexdeParis said:

Empress said:



I nearly spewed my cornflakes!

Some people don't have a clue about great musicianship.

rolleyes Sign 'O' The Times is great musicianship; The Rainbow Children is pretentious and largely boring.

Corn Flakes? Some people don't have a clue about great cereal. lol


I must agree with you about SOTT!! It's my favorite Prince cd and I consider it a masterpiece. As for TRC - the lyrics are awful on some songs, but the music is amazing and shows his real genius! Very sophisticated and his guitar work is awesome.
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Reply #599 posted 03/07/08 10:19am

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llf553 said:

I put this CD in my everyday playlist and moved on . . . for about 2 days!

I had to go back to listening to this thing on repeat. Me, Soldier, The Cell, That Hump, Telephone, Honey . . . I like how I feel listening to this!!


That's what I keep going back to. I still don't really love any song, exactly, but it makes me feel more creative just to listen to it. At times a song like Twinkle might feel like an experiment than a masterpiece, but it doesn't sound like the same ol' thing.

I was just talking about how there feels like there's nothing new in music. This is new. It reminds me of MIles' ON the Corner, which might not be as rich or have as many classics as Kind Of Blue, but I love how it creates a sound I've never heard before.

Well I just compared the album to Miles Davis, I guess that's a compliment lol
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