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Reply #30 posted 01/21/08 10:19pm

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I, myself, have never heard of any of their music,
but I'm assuming that this record-breaking feat makes them, officially, the greatest musical act ever.
Now,
I'm just hoping that my lazy ass can muster up enough perspective to be able to appreciate the fact that this event has occurred during my lifetime.

I say this, because I missed out on the whole "Beatles phenomenon".
I was alive when it all went down, but since I was born in 1964, my lack of life experience prevented me from really being able to appreciate what was going on.

I'd hate to miss that train again.
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Reply #31 posted 01/21/08 10:45pm

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still my favorite Girls Aloud song
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Reply #32 posted 01/22/08 4:02am

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Christopher said:

PricelessHo said:



can't speak french so i'll let the funky music do the talking hmph!



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Reply #33 posted 01/22/08 4:31am

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Reply #34 posted 01/22/08 6:19am

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Girls Aloud make throwaway pop, but it is GOOD throwaway pop, so who cares?

Fun pop music - Might not stand up next to Joy Division or the Smiths or Radiohead in terms of artistic or intellectual merit but if this kind of thing had been around when i was a kid I'd have loved it. Let's not forget some of the crap that was around in the 80's!



And besides it's nice to see a thread in Music- Non-Prince that ISN'T ABOUT MICAHEL F***** JACKSON! headache
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Reply #35 posted 01/22/08 8:50am

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lastdecember said:

Not Michael, Prince, Mariah,Janet, Britney, Madonna or even the Beatles. thats right GIRLS ALOUD, are the only artist to acheive 17 straight top 10 singles right out of the gate, meaning from their first single release. Dating back to 2002 the Girls have released 17 singles all of which have hit the Top 10 in the UK, this chart accomplishment was never matched in America at all, though all had their runs of consistency, none did it out of the gate. And dont just think "oh thats the UK", the UK has more competition since they get our music and all countries around them and than only have one chart to fight for.


who cares about UK

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Reply #36 posted 01/22/08 9:30am

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who cares about UK

lol



Well..the US has gota have SOMEWHERE to launch missles/ jets from, no....?


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Reply #37 posted 01/22/08 9:31am

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rocknrolldave said:

Girls Aloud make throwaway pop, but it is GOOD throwaway pop, so who cares?

Fun pop music - Might not stand up next to Joy Division or the Smiths or Radiohead in terms of artistic or intellectual merit but if this kind of thing had been around when i was a kid I'd have loved it. Let's not forget some of the crap that was around in the 80's!



And besides it's nice to see a thread in Music- Non-Prince that ISN'T ABOUT MICAHEL F***** JACKSON! headache


I tired to like them i did...its just too lame...aint no style..
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Reply #38 posted 01/22/08 9:46am

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paisleypark4 said:

rocknrolldave said:

Girls Aloud make throwaway pop, but it is GOOD throwaway pop, so who cares?

Fun pop music - Might not stand up next to Joy Division or the Smiths or Radiohead in terms of artistic or intellectual merit but if this kind of thing had been around when i was a kid I'd have loved it. Let's not forget some of the crap that was around in the 80's!



And besides it's nice to see a thread in Music- Non-Prince that ISN'T ABOUT MICAHEL F***** JACKSON! headache


I tired to like them i did...its just too lame...aint no style..

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Reply #39 posted 01/22/08 12:29pm

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it doesnt matter how many they sell,

they can't even sell that much.

people have never bought their records.

each of their albums has sold less than 300,000 on average.

their total worldwide sales are 4 million.

thats pathetic for a girl group after 6 years.
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Reply #40 posted 01/22/08 12:39pm

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Since their 2002 debut the fivesome have notched up an impressive run of hits, last single 'Call The Shots' becoming their 17th consecutive Top 10 hit. Now technically that record is now spoiled forever, thanks to their rendition of the 'Theme To St Trinians' from the soundtrack of the recent film creeping to Number 51 a couple of weeks ago. Their 18th chart hit is effectively a flop, but as it was a random download hit rather than a "proper" single release, should it actually count when it comes to their run of Top 10 hits?
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Reply #41 posted 01/22/08 12:41pm

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Never heard of this group. Do they play any instruments?
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Reply #42 posted 01/22/08 12:44pm

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I have absolutely never even heard of them lol
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Reply #43 posted 01/22/08 12:45pm

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ehuffnsd said:

paisleypark4 said:



I tired to like them i did...its just too lame...aint no style..

i need your homocard.



Go head and clip it neutral
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Reply #44 posted 01/22/08 12:57pm

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Since their 2002 debut the fivesome have notched up an impressive run of hits, last single 'Call The Shots' becoming their 17th consecutive Top 10 hit. Now technically that record is now spoiled forever, thanks to their rendition of the 'Theme To St Trinians' from the soundtrack of the recent film creeping to Number 51 a couple of weeks ago. Their 18th chart hit is effectively a flop, but as it was a random download hit rather than a "proper" single release, should it actually count when it comes to their run of Top 10 hits?


No, digital is too small a % of what is counted in the UK, the theme to that movie isnt going to be a "commercial" single at any point, their next single is "cant Speak French" set for a february release on both digital and a commercial single release. To be counted as a single, technically, they have to be given releases from the label, catalog numbers etc... Digital is brand new to the Uk and its such a small % that its still not a legitimate count for any artist

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Reply #45 posted 01/22/08 1:00pm

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dirtyman2005 said:

it doesnt matter how many they sell,

they can't even sell that much.

people have never bought their records.

each of their albums has sold less than 300,000 on average.

their total worldwide sales are 4 million.

thats pathetic for a girl group after 6 years.


However they have only been issued in 2 countries officially, the UK and Ireland, so to me if you can 4 million (just album sales, with their single sales its over 8) if you look at it as a % to people that buy music in those 2 countries as to the % of the population its well beyond anyone in the usa.

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Reply #46 posted 01/22/08 1:05pm

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lastdecember said:

dodgydicko said:

Since their 2002 debut the fivesome have notched up an impressive run of hits, last single 'Call The Shots' becoming their 17th consecutive Top 10 hit. Now technically that record is now spoiled forever, thanks to their rendition of the 'Theme To St Trinians' from the soundtrack of the recent film creeping to Number 51 a couple of weeks ago. Their 18th chart hit is effectively a flop, but as it was a random download hit rather than a "proper" single release, should it actually count when it comes to their run of Top 10 hits?


No, digital is too small a % of what is counted in the UK, the theme to that movie isnt going to be a "commercial" single at any point, their next single is "cant Speak French" set for a february release on both digital and a commercial single release. To be counted as a single, technically, they have to be given releases from the label, catalog numbers etc... Digital is brand new to the Uk and its such a small % that its still not a legitimate count for any artist

There is of course no right and wrong answer and it will largely depend who compiles the record tables for the next edition of British Hit Singles should it belatedly appear this year.Digital is not a small % many tracks go top 5 purely on downloads only , see this weeks chart for proof i.e Adele , so downloads can make a difference .
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Reply #47 posted 01/22/08 1:11pm

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lastdecember said:



No, digital is too small a % of what is counted in the UK, the theme to that movie isnt going to be a "commercial" single at any point, their next single is "cant Speak French" set for a february release on both digital and a commercial single release. To be counted as a single, technically, they have to be given releases from the label, catalog numbers etc... Digital is brand new to the Uk and its such a small % that its still not a legitimate count for any artist

There is of course no right and wrong answer and it will largely depend who compiles the record tables for the next edition of British Hit Singles should it belatedly appear this year.Digital is not a small % many tracks go top 5 purely on downloads only , see this weeks chart for proof i.e Adele , so downloads can make a difference .



but its still an artist thing, the "physical single" is still a huge part of that market, here in the usa its almost never released, so airplay gets the biggest count than digital sales. All markets are different but this is why i think every song on an album should be made available seperately for any artist, it should only be the single released at that time, mainly because radio is instructed to play a certain song, here in america if they are in the top 40 market they have to play certain songs, they cant play album tracks at will for reasons like that.

the reason i would say no is that the song is technically not available in all its formats, and the cd single is still to big and airplay of that song to just cut it out, the main reason the song even got on the chart is no one wants to buy that soundtrack.
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Reply #48 posted 01/22/08 1:13pm

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Not Michael, Prince, Mariah,Janet, Britney, Madonna or even the Beatles. thats right GIRLS ALOUD, are the only artist to acheive 17 straight top 10 singles right out of the gate, meaning from their first single release. Dating back to 2002 the Girls have released 17 singles all of which have hit the Top 10 in the UK, this chart accomplishment was never matched in America at all, though all had their runs of consistency, none did it out of the gate. And dont just think "oh thats the UK", the UK has more competition since they get our music and all countries around them and than only have one chart to fight for.

Maybe if any of those artists had been manufactured in full view of the nation on a prime-time reality TV show, they might have matched this awesome achievement. Aren't you the one always complaining about how artists don't come up the hard way anymore? I wonder what it could be about these scantily clad bimbos that you find so appealing?
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Reply #49 posted 01/22/08 1:20pm

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lastdecember said:

Not Michael, Prince, Mariah,Janet, Britney, Madonna or even the Beatles. thats right GIRLS ALOUD, are the only artist to acheive 17 straight top 10 singles right out of the gate, meaning from their first single release. Dating back to 2002 the Girls have released 17 singles all of which have hit the Top 10 in the UK, this chart accomplishment was never matched in America at all, though all had their runs of consistency, none did it out of the gate. And dont just think "oh thats the UK", the UK has more competition since they get our music and all countries around them and than only have one chart to fight for.

Maybe if any of those artists had been manufactured in full view of the nation on a prime-time reality TV show, they might have matched this awesome achievement. Aren't you the one always complaining about how artists don't come up the hard way anymore? I wonder what it could be about these scantily clad bimbos that you find so appealing?
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Dude im quoting their record OK. And as far as a prime-time reality show, wow how come only 2 people from american idol have even lasted?? And on the list who the hell came up HARD? with the exception of the Beatles and Prince which one ever played a club gig? so please, enough of this nonsense already its boring the shit out of me. Like i said do a good song i'll like it, whether you look good or look like a fucking ape case closed. And take a good look over 45 people already responded to this, and yet 2 of my other threads on MUSICIANS were replied by 2-3 people, so where's the MUSIC LOVERS u are preaching, do me a favor jump of it already because its about as tired as a timbaland beat.
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Reply #50 posted 01/22/08 1:21pm

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Wtf! Who the hell are Girls Aloud?

Lmao.
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Reply #51 posted 01/22/08 1:23pm

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lastdecember said:

midnightmover said:


Maybe if any of those artists had been manufactured in full view of the nation on a prime-time reality TV show, they might have matched this awesome achievement. Aren't you the one always complaining about how artists don't come up the hard way anymore? I wonder what it could be about these scantily clad bimbos that you find so appealing?
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Dude im quoting their record OK. And as far as a prime-time reality show, wow how come only 2 people from american idol have even lasted?? And on the list who the hell came up HARD? with the exception of the Beatles and Prince which one ever played a club gig? so please, enough of this nonsense already its boring the shit out of me. Like i said do a good song i'll like it, whether you look good or look like a fucking ape case closed. And take a good look over 45 people already responded to this, and yet 2 of my other threads on MUSICIANS were replied by 2-3 people, so where's the MUSIC LOVERS u are preaching, do me a favor jump of it already because its about as tired as a timbaland beat.
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both Michael and Madonna paied their dues. I know for sure Madonna played Max's KC CBGB's and a slew of other NY Clubs before making it big.
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Reply #52 posted 01/22/08 1:28pm

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ehuffnsd said:

lastdecember said:



Dude im quoting their record OK. And as far as a prime-time reality show, wow how come only 2 people from american idol have even lasted?? And on the list who the hell came up HARD? with the exception of the Beatles and Prince which one ever played a club gig? so please, enough of this nonsense already its boring the shit out of me. Like i said do a good song i'll like it, whether you look good or look like a fucking ape case closed. And take a good look over 45 people already responded to this, and yet 2 of my other threads on MUSICIANS were replied by 2-3 people, so where's the MUSIC LOVERS u are preaching, do me a favor jump of it already because its about as tired as a timbaland beat.
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both Michael and Madonna paied their dues. I know for sure Madonna played Max's KC CBGB's and a slew of other NY Clubs before making it big.

Ok my point is its a record and im posting it. Its not a record of who struggled the most or paid the most dues or played the most club dates. When Mariah Carey breaks the Beatles #1's record of 20 in a few years it will be just that , a record broken, its not saying anyone is better or comparable, christ already.

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Reply #53 posted 01/22/08 1:33pm

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lastdecember said:

midnightmover said:


Maybe if any of those artists had been manufactured in full view of the nation on a prime-time reality TV show, they might have matched this awesome achievement. Aren't you the one always complaining about how artists don't come up the hard way anymore? I wonder what it could be about these scantily clad bimbos that you find so appealing?
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Dude im quoting their record OK. And as far as a prime-time reality show, wow how come only 2 people from american idol have even lasted?? And on the list how the hell came up HARD? with the exception of the Beatles and Prince which one ever played a club gig? so please, enough of this nonsense already its boring the shit out of me. Like i said do a good song i'll like it, whether you look or look like a fucking ape case closed. And take a good look over 45 people already responded to this, and yet 2 of my other threads on MUSICIANS were replied by 2-3 people, so where's the MUSIC LOVERS u are preaching, do me a favor jump of it already because its about as tired as a timbaland beat.

Firstly, you've often spoken about INXS and others paying their dues and compared them to today's artists who have it handed to them. Secondly, it's disingenuous to boast about Girls Aloud having this many Top 10 hits "out of the gate" when the other artists you compared them to didn't have a reality TV show to guarantee them early success. And once again I ask, where are the male non-entities you make threads about and come running to defend? There aren't any. You've obviously got a thing for vacuous young girls.

btw, Madonna played plenty of club gigs before she became famous.
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Reply #54 posted 01/22/08 1:44pm

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lastdecember said:



Dude im quoting their record OK. And as far as a prime-time reality show, wow how come only 2 people from american idol have even lasted?? And on the list how the hell came up HARD? with the exception of the Beatles and Prince which one ever played a club gig? so please, enough of this nonsense already its boring the shit out of me. Like i said do a good song i'll like it, whether you look or look like a fucking ape case closed. And take a good look over 45 people already responded to this, and yet 2 of my other threads on MUSICIANS were replied by 2-3 people, so where's the MUSIC LOVERS u are preaching, do me a favor jump of it already because its about as tired as a timbaland beat.

Firstly, you've often spoken about INXS and others paying their dues and compared them to today's artists who have it handed to them. Secondly, it's disingenuous to boast about Girls Aloud having this many Top 10 hits "out of the gate" when the other artists you compared them to didn't have a reality TV show to guarantee them early success. And once again I ask, where are the male non-entities you make threads about and come running to defend? There aren't any. You've obviously got a thing for vacuous young girls.

btw, Madonna played plenty of club gigs before she became famous.
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Ok well this isnt a thread about DUES its a chart record, that simple, do charts matter to me no, but i posted it for the fucking org, so we wouldnt have to hear anymore MJ has a new song threads. Plain and simple, i have spoken about alot of artists where were u chiming in on my Ann Wilson thread or Joni Mitchell having the best records out last year? missed those i guess? or when i talk of bands like a-Ha or member of a-Ha Magne Furuholmen who has a new way to distribute music, where were U on that thread??? hmmm he doesnt sound like a female to me. And how am i defending them by posting THEIR record? look the shit up if you dont like it, i'll post what the hell i want. Where were u on my Ryan Adams is the artist of this decade thread?? again NOWHERE, so cut the shit already, stop looking at only what you wanna look at. Like i said do a good song i'll post it Ok. Amerie had the best RB mainstream album last year sorry if you dont like it, i dont give a shit, Ryan Adams and Paul McCartney had the best overall albums, John Mellencamp and Springsteen had the best Rock Albums. Crowded House and REO had the best Indie Records. Ok so theres your defense of artists, dont like them?? i dont give a shit.
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BTw you were also silent on discussions i had on the new Mellencamp out in a few months, discussions on the HOF, discussions on Rashaan Patterson etcc...So keep going picking and choosing but you seem absent on these threads and my defense of them.
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Reply #55 posted 01/22/08 1:52pm

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lastdecember said:

midnightmover said:


Firstly, you've often spoken about INXS and others paying their dues and compared them to today's artists who have it handed to them. Secondly, it's disingenuous to boast about Girls Aloud having this many Top 10 hits "out of the gate" when the other artists you compared them to didn't have a reality TV show to guarantee them early success. And once again I ask, where are the male non-entities you make threads about and come running to defend? There aren't any. You've obviously got a thing for vacuous young girls.

btw, Madonna played plenty of club gigs before she became famous.
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Ok well this isnt a thread about DUES its a chart record, that simple, do charts matter to me no, but i posted it for the fucking org, so we wouldnt have to hear anymore MJ has a new song threads. Plain and simple, i have spoken about alot of artists where were u chiming in on my Ann Wilson thread or Joni Mitchell having the best records out last year? missed those i guess? or when i talk of bands like a-Ha or member of a-Ha Magne Furuholmen who has a new way to distribute music, where were U on that thread??? hmmm he doesnt sound like a female to me. And how am i defending them by posting THEIR record? look the shit up if you dont like it, i'll post what the hell i want. Where were u on my Ryan Adams is the artist of this decade thread?? again NOWHERE, so cut the shit already, stop looking at only what you wanna look at. Like i said do a good song i'll post it Ok. Amerie had the best RB mainstream album last year sorry if you dont like it, i dont give a shit, Ryan Adams and Paul McCartney had the best overall albums, John Mellencamp and Springsteen had the best Rock Albums. Crowded House and REO had the best Indie Records. Ok so theres your defense of artists, dont like them?? i dont give a shit.
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Reply #56 posted 01/22/08 2:14pm

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lastdecember said:

midnightmover said:


Maybe if any of those artists had been manufactured in full view of the nation on a prime-time reality TV show, they might have matched this awesome achievement. Aren't you the one always complaining about how artists don't come up the hard way anymore? I wonder what it could be about these scantily clad bimbos that you find so appealing?
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Dude im quoting their record OK. And as far as a prime-time reality show, wow how come only 2 people from american idol have even lasted?? And on the list who the hell came up HARD? with the exception of the Beatles and Prince which one ever played a club gig? so please, enough of this nonsense already its boring the shit out of me. Like i said do a good song i'll like it, whether you look good or look like a fucking ape case closed. And take a good look over 45 people already responded to this, and yet 2 of my other threads on MUSICIANS were replied by 2-3 people, so where's the MUSIC LOVERS u are preaching, do me a favor jump of it already because its about as tired as a timbaland beat.
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Michael Jackson and his brothers did not have an easy time when they first started. They played at clubs and other places children of their age should not have been in the first place. Also, Madonna worked at clubs as well.

Funny how you conveniently forget these facts.
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Dude im quoting their record OK. And as far as a prime-time reality show, wow how come only 2 people from american idol have even lasted?? And on the list who the hell came up HARD? with the exception of the Beatles and Prince which one ever played a club gig? so please, enough of this nonsense already its boring the shit out of me. Like i said do a good song i'll like it, whether you look good or look like a fucking ape case closed. And take a good look over 45 people already responded to this, and yet 2 of my other threads on MUSICIANS were replied by 2-3 people, so where's the MUSIC LOVERS u are preaching, do me a favor jump of it already because its about as tired as a timbaland beat.
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Michael Jackson and his brothers did not have an easy time when they first started. They played at clubs and other places children of their age should not have been in the first place. Also, Madonna worked at clubs as well.

Funny how you conveniently forget these facts.


I didnt forget them actually, this wasnt about the Jackson 5 it was Michael solo for one and as for Madonna her club circuit was not impressive, sorry, i give her props for playing clubs, but she did alot more playing around than playing in clubs. If you wanna talk a POP female from that era that played clubs, talk Lisa Lisa and the Cult Jam, they busted it in the same clubs that madonna did, and played, didnt play around like she would do. And that is on the word of Alex Mosely of the cult jam and the things that went on in alot of those clubs
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Reply #58 posted 01/22/08 2:21pm

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lastdecember said:

Rodya24 said:



Michael Jackson and his brothers did not have an easy time when they first started. They played at clubs and other places children of their age should not have been in the first place. Also, Madonna worked at clubs as well.

Funny how you conveniently forget these facts.


I didnt forget them actually, this wasnt about the Jackson 5 it was Michael solo for one and as for Madonna her club circuit was not impressive, sorry, i give her props for playing clubs, but she did alot more playing around than playing in clubs. If you wanna talk a POP female from that era that played clubs, talk Lisa Lisa and the Cult Jam, they busted it in the same clubs that madonna did, and played, didnt play around for most part.


You cannot separate the two. When MJ launched his solo career with the song "Ben" he had already been part of the Jackson Five. He worked hard as a child. Without his hard work in the local clubs and talent shows along with his brothers, the Jackson Five would never have been able to get a recording contract.

And why bring up the other women? You did not mention them in your original post.
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lastdecember said:

Rodya24 said:



Michael Jackson and his brothers did not have an easy time when they first started. They played at clubs and other places children of their age should not have been in the first place. Also, Madonna worked at clubs as well.

Funny how you conveniently forget these facts.


I didnt forget them actually, this wasnt about the Jackson 5 it was Michael solo for one and as for Madonna her club circuit was not impressive, sorry, i give her props for playing clubs, but she did alot more playing around than playing in clubs. If you wanna talk a POP female from that era that played clubs, talk Lisa Lisa and the Cult Jam, they busted it in the same clubs that madonna did, and played, didnt play around like she would do. And that is on the word of Alex Mosely of the cult jam and the things that went on in alot of those clubs
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Madge busted her ass in the Breakfast Club and Emmy doing the NY punk scene. Though both made music unlike what made her a star. She was smart enough to play her sexuality to her advantage. can't blame her for that.
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