sosgemini said:

Actually, I heard about this forum on one of janet's webs. It was Janet Xone.

Oh, and I heard that FREEDBACK is 56 on pop and 44 on the rhythmic charts.

DawnD said:

i was asking adisa.

sosgemini said:

Oh, excuse me.

The review refers to Discipline as "easily her most dance-oriented album since Rhythm Nation 1814." It also reveals the title of another new track, "Curtains."

Their review of each of the nine previewed songs is posted below:


1. "Luv" - An extended automotive metaphor (red lights/headlights imagery, the line: "He hit me with his love") makes this like a bumper-car rink for Janet's vocals, which bounce her constant refrain of "Luv, luv, luv, luv..." all over the place. Vocally, it's hyper like the chorus of Chris Brown's "With You," but musically, it sounds like a Southern-fried sequel to Kanye West's "Good Life." Reid played this one twice and after the second time, there was some murmuring about it being the next single. Commercially, that would make a lot of sense.

2. "Feedback" - The single, duh. It has a house beat, but it's the least house-y of the other 4/4 tracks. Oh yeah, Janet goes there. Also, I can't tell you how wonderful it was to hear Janet sing about her period amongst fine wood office furniture and expensive candles. A moment to remember, for sure.

3. "This Can't Be Good" - Think Aaliyah's "Rock the Boat" with a more punishing beat, and you're halfway there. Another obvious reference point would be Michael Jackson's "Butterflies" and/or Janet's own "Spending Time With You" from Damita Jo. Lyrics are standard falling-in-love-too-deep fare, although the song is put together well: the thwack of the snare contrasts heavily with the layers of cooing vocals. The layers pile and pile so that by the bridge, the song is virtually dizzying. This one's extremely well-produced, but perhaps the least exciting track we were privy to.

4. "Rock With You" - This one was rumored to be a cover of Michael Jackson's classic and/or to feature Michael himself. It's neither. It seems to have some melodic elements snatched from Mike's track, although the chorus is more, "Ooh ooh ooh ooooh oooh oooh" than "I wanna rock with you." Janet's vocals seem a bit detached and robotic, but that's not an insult: they're most reminiscent of Donna Summer's in "I Feel Love" without the operatic flair. This one is pure house music, with an electroboogie bass line borrowed from the '80s. It's bright enough so that it wouldn't sound out of place on one of those Beach House compilations released by Hed Kandi.

5. "Tonight" - Speaking of bright, this one just shines. It's another dance track - more or less housey (although the beat pattern has a slight twist keeping it from being straight four-on-the-floor for most of it). It has the filter-house thing of Rihanna's "Don't Stop the Music" going on (the second verse is virtually treble-free), but where that song has a darkish vibe, this one's up up up. Again, Janet seems detached, but that's only during the verses: she breaks out like the sun between clouds during the chorus, belting in her high register that immediately reminded me of "Young Love." The song only gets better as it goes, too: two killer bridges and an amazing breakdown ("Don't leave me alone tonight / Don't leave me tonight") close it out. Epic and brilliant: this is by far my favorite track that we were played.

6. "The Greatest Ex" - A departure for Janet, this one's most akin to OneRepublic's "Apologize." Like "Tonight," there's this epic sensibility, but this time it's applied to the power-ballad template. Timbaland-esque beats skitter around Janet's confession (this definitely seems like the most personal song on the record): "In my heart, I know you'll always be the greatest ex ever." I pointed out to L.A. Reid after that this is the pop smash, the Z100 crossover and he agreed. It's not the best track, but it has tremendous potential to kill at radio. Seriously, if Janet can't get a hit with this one, it isn't her fault; it's the world's.

7. "Discipline" - The baby-making track (though in an interview conducted with Janet today, she told us about "Curtains," which is faster but with a sexy vibe). It's similar in theme to Velvet Rope's "Rope Burn," but not in sound. This is slower and sparser, like a Prince song that's not purple, but black and blue. "I misbehaved / I touched myself even though you told me not to," coos Janet to her "Daddy" before asking him to "take out your frustrations on me." It's heavy stuff, but probably not as dark as it sounds. The snare is made to sound like a whip, which is a pretty brilliant touch.

8. "Rollercoaster" - One of the most bizarre things that Janet's ever done, it wouldn't be surprising if this one ended up being left off the album. It's extremely layered and tough to get your head around: the melody never seems quite right until the bridge and then after, it's more topsy-turvy. Rodney Jerkins produced this one and though it shares virtually no musical ideas with it, it has the same woozy effect as "What About Us?" which he produced for Brandy.

9. "Let Me Know" - A Miami-bass-esque ballad that's somewhat indistinct, but nice all the same. It sounds more like filler than anything else we were played, but it's pleasant enough.

is it about her meat curtains?

Does anyone know if Discipline has interludes?

If it only contains 9 trax, that means that Janet used the same formula as "Control".

daPrettyman said:

9 tracks are what they played for this listening party, but that doesn't mean that there are 9 tracks on the album. They played 8 for the London listening party. One other has been played at a listening party (Letchu Go), and Janet mentioned another one called Curtains.

Everyone is getting the hint to start making their albums shorter, it should be a rule, like back in the day when radio wouldnt play anything over 4 minutes long, no one should have long albums anymore, clearly it rarely worked (unless its a best of) and usually whoever the artist is, they hit you with "filler" and interludes and skits just to get 14-18 tracks and 80 minute cds. Finally people are hitting the edit button.

lastdecember said:

it's not a janet album without out interludes. Everything since Control, even though they aren't index as seperate tracks, has had them.

ehuffnsd said:

I think three to five will be alright. But sometimes she overdoes them.

Rodya24 said:

20 YO had 5 i didn't mind them.

ehuffnsd said:

I just think whomever the artist its a very "90's" way of thinking, not so much the interludes but just filling the cds up, many times has people just getting bored and why you dont have many "strong" records anymore and you almost never get one that has 14+ tracks on it. I think the whole "tracks" thing was a game that labels played with consumers, i did music retail and i can tell you that people always hated the price but if they saw 16 tracks they were like "oh ok, thats alright than" i mean it was all a game you could have 4 songs and have some poetry readings and people would buy it for "quantity". As i said long ago i dont 80 minutes of "new" music from anyone in one shot, mainly because i get bored, tracks get lost, alot of time its alot of filler, and if that much of an album is filler i just tend to stop listening to it. Id rather 10 tracks 40 minutes solid work, no filler,no interludes, skits,prayers,poetry etc.
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DawnD said:

#44 R&B up eight positions. I don't know what the deal is with the Hot 100. Is this another "Just A Little While"?

sextonseven said:

Well, I think it'll do better than JUST A LITTLE WHILE.
Someone had posted on a couple of her sites that FEEDBACK went from 76 to 38 or the charts. Now, unfortunately I couldn't tell you which charts it is.
But, who knows the song seems to be going up and down and bouncing back and forth.

sosgemini said:

google... google... google NOT prince... i thought this site was a cool site.... could care less about prince... nor do i post in his section unless i have something negative to say....and even at that i don't pay attention so i don't really know what is going on with him

sextonseven said:

It will be moving up.

DawnD said:

why?????

paisleypark4 said:

Wait. Wasn't Feedback released only in early January? Give it some time. I am sure it will become top 20 if not top 10 soon.

Rodya24 said:

The reason it dropped a bit this week is because digital downloads decreased (however, the song is now moving back up on the iTunes chart). The track just debuted on Hot 100 Airplay at #68.

VoicesCarry said:

paisleypark4 said:

How you doin', paisleypark4?
And, because I was too lazy to check it out!

DawnD said:

Awww

Hey Dawn

To celebrate Janet....here's a look back

Beautiful photos!
Thanks for posting.

those pics are so beautiful, the first one made me go oooooh, and the last one which I'd never seen before of that particular shot made me go awwwww

alphastreet said:

dont that like just like Mike?

paisleypark4 said:

Shole' do!

DawnD said:

Actually, its Sen. Craig strollin' for Jackson balls.

I do believe Janet is BACK.....She cumming HARD and I LOVE IT!!!!!

regcart said:

Yeah I actually can't wait for the second single. I believe that will set it off just in case "Feedback" falls. But hey FB is good for the dance charts.