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Thread started 10/14/07 8:26am

floetcist

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I hate to make another thread about MJ/Vitiligo but..

The other two were closed. lol

Okay, so I need help with this one. Some idiot posted this comment on my blog in regards to an article I had about Michael and vitiligo, and I'm just floored with how much illogical nonsense he managed to put out in each and every sentence.

Can someone help me with this? I don't know what to say. My brain is hurting.



Michael Jackson does not have vitiligo. Micheal Jackson HAD what is called “post in flammatory Hyper-pigmentation” as a result of severe adolescent acne. This condition leaves dark spots of pigment on the skin, and is most prominent in blacks. Jackson talks about his spots in many interviews. One treatment for this is bleaching cream usually combined with the acne medication cream Retin-A, which acts as a vehicle to make the bleaching cream penetrate the skin even further. The cream is applied on the face, but not the eyelids, lips and around the nostrils.

This treatment targets the over active melanicites (the cells in the skin that produce pigment) and slowly destroys them. If used properly, for the right amount of time and then discontinued, the spots will disappear and skin tone will be evened out.

I believe he used too much, for too long doing what is called “self-medicating”.

Goolre pictures of Jackson’s face in his late teens, it is dark brown with spots (when seen without make-up). Around the time of Thriller, his facial skin becomes refined perfectly even, smooth and brighter. You can see this starting in the Motown25 special. Look closely at his face in the movie theater scene of the Thriller video. You will see his cheeks are lighter and smooth, while the color of his nose tip, upper lip and eye lids is darker. This is because he wasn’t using the bleaching creams there. Look at the Beat it video, shot soon after Thriller. There is a scene at the beginning of the video showing him leaning back in bed. You can clearly see that his face looks pink and light compared to his neck, nose, eye lids and upper lip which are still dark brown, his arms are darker too. Check out phots of his recieving his Grammy’s for Thriller, you can start to see thsi too, especially his hands being darker brown than hsi face. This becomes extremely obvious in many other photos of his around this time. Check out the “The Way You Make me Feel” video in the close up of him at the beginning. His face looks almost white except for his eye lids. In the Bad video, his face changes from light yellow to pink from scene to scene, depending on the make up and lighting. I have seen many photos of him on line from the Bad era, with the pattern of coloring described above. In pictures that do not show this it is because he is wearing make up to cover it and probably using a self tanning lotion to cover light spots.

Sometime by the late 80’s or early 90’s he had to make a choice; go through life with a bleached white face and black body, or de-pigment his entire body to match his face. This is what some vitiligo patients do. So Michael Jackson had to litterally bathe in bleaching solution to make his body color match his bleached face.

For all you skeptics, watch the scene in the Martin Bashire interview with Jackson in a Las Vegas hotel, talking about his first sexual experiences and Tatum Oneal. He puts his pink hand up to his white face but his fingernails are still brown! That is because you can’t get bleaching cream under your fingernails, you can see this in many other pictures on line too.

Michael Jackson was the mentally unstable superstar of the world in the 80’s. It is obvious he is into excess, to put it mildly. The insidious thing about overusing bleaching cream is that it takes about 1-1/2 months to see the permanent effect of ‘over-doing’ it because that’s how long it takes for newly created pigment cells to reach the surface of the skin. In other-words, if you over do it, you won’t know right away. What you will think is that you skin is getting better and better looking, then discover you went to far, and it’s too late. Michael Jackson is obviously someone who is into “self-medicating” with plastic surgery, so this makes sense.

When you see Jackson today, wearing that bizarre wig that hangs over the sides of his face, notice that he uses it to shade his face from the sun. That is what his “germ mask” and fedora hats were all about too.

I think the whole Vitiligo explanation was devised by Jackson’s publicists and he is trapped in this tragic lie.

I feel sorry for Jackson for two reasons; One, he inadvertently ruined not only his skin, but his face with plastic surgery (destroyed his nose and has to wear a prosthetic tip, cheek implants, upper lip implant, lower lip and eye lid fat removal, chin cleft and implant, forehead light) He has to live with this everyday. Two, he can’t come clean about this and it is one of the primary reasons he is perceived as odd, reculsive and eccentric. Oh yes, there is a third; When he was black, he built Neverland, the ultimate outdoor fantasy land. As soon as it was complete the turned white and could no longer expose himself to the sun. Oh, there is a fourth; the active ingredient in bleaching cream contain mercury. Too much mercury absorbed into the bloodstream causes insanity…Go figure!
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Reply #1 posted 10/14/07 8:30am

Rodya24

Please tell me you did NOT make another thread about Michael Jackson and vitiligo!
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Reply #2 posted 10/14/07 8:37am

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floetcist said:

the active ingredient in bleaching cream contain mercury. Too much mercury absorbed into the bloodstream causes insanity…Go figure!
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Oh man. This is definitely my favourite part in that post.
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Reply #3 posted 10/14/07 8:38am

Rodya24

And BTW, the comment that "Michael Jackson had to litterally bathe in bleaching solution to make his body color match his bleached face" is so ludicrous that I cannot help laugh. Good grief. Do some research on the consequences of bleaching, people!
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Reply #4 posted 10/14/07 8:44am

PatrickS77

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Why bother to respond... it's all speculation, nobody can prove anything, pro or contra... and people will believe what they want to believe anyway!
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Reply #5 posted 10/14/07 8:48am

floetcist

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Rodya24 said:

Please tell me you did NOT make another thread about Michael Jackson and vitiligo!


I need your wisdom.

And I already said that the other two were closed. I would of written this in them if they were still open. neutral boxed
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Reply #6 posted 10/14/07 8:49am

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I do believe he has vitiligo but I still think he wants to be white. Instead of using makeup to match his darker natural skin, he chose to use makeup to match the white spots. He doesn't even look like a white person though. He doesn't even look human. He looks like one of those porcelain oriental china dolls with the white faces.
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Reply #7 posted 10/14/07 8:50am

Timmy84

Lord Jesus, in my best Ron Isley voice: "here we go again..."
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Reply #8 posted 10/14/07 8:54am

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Well, if more of his body is white than black, then it makes sense to go white and cover the dark spots... but yes, I think, to a certain extent, he wasn't too unhappy about the situation and used it for himself! It helped him branch out of the black market, come more acceptable for white audiences... so to say! I mean, even Prince had a phase where he was using light make up to apear more white! In Michael's case it worked, for a while, specially during the late Thriller, Bad to early Dangerous era... of course he soon kinda has lost all of his credibility due to the changing of his skincolour!
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Reply #9 posted 10/14/07 10:35am

midnightmover

Vitiligo gives a person completely white patches on their skin. Y'all are saying that he used white make up to cover the remaining dark spots. There is a blindingly obvious flaw in this argument that most of you haven't noticed. That is that for years Michael was neither his natural black colour, nor his eventual white colour. He had an in-between phase of about a decade where he was different shades of brown. That means that if he had vitiligo he would have had to not only lighten the remaining black skin, but also darken the newly white skin to achieve the light brown complexion. He would have had to do this every day on the Bad tour. What's more, when he took his shirt off on stage, the skin on his torso was basicaly the same brown colour as his face. This means, according to your story, he would have had to applied the same process (lightening the black spots, darkening the white ones) to his whole back and chest (bare in mind also, that he was sweating profusely on stage). Looked at objectively, does this sound probable to you? And have you ever heard of any other vitiligo sufferer doing the same?
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