midnightmover said:

He would bave been more credible too if that meeting had never happened

jn2 said:

Blasphemy! Everyone knows Mike only met Ron so he could plead for social justice and protest the growing gap between rich and poor. Any MJ fan can tell you that.

midnightmover said:

Dylan was just channeling genius in his early 20s, it's scary how great he was.

mynameisnotsusan said:

Shhh, we don't want to intimidate the MJ fans.... So tell me, what do you think of Beyonce's latest? I think it's a rip off of Billie Jean myself.

bboy87 said:

Haven't clicked the link but if we're talking about the Bad video, didn't Scorsese direct that shit?

CalhounSq said:

No,they're talking about Michael's "They Don't Care About Us" video from 1995.It was directed by Spike Lee

interestingly,just a few years earlier,Spike directed Prince's "Money Don't Matter 2Night" video.

SoulAlive said:

Interesting, I knew the video to Prince's had a Spike Lee feel to it but I had no idea it was directed by the man himself. It definitely had Spike Lee resonance to it and that's a bold statement to make about Michael's "They Don't Care". While I do dig it, I wouldn't dare it call the most powerful political statement ever made into a song, I think Marvin's "You're the Man", Stevie's "You Haven't Done Nothin'", Curtis Mayfield's "If There's a Hell Below" and Bob's "The Times They Are-A Changin'" qualify way OVER "They Don't Care".

midnightmover said:

Dylan is my idol, but how the hell did we get to him?

EmbattledWarrior said:

Midnightmover just listed a bunch of iconic 'protest' songs and four of them Dylan wrote, all of which are as powerful and relevant today as they were when he wrote them.

mynameisnotsusan said:

Oh? and?
Comparing MJ wiith Dylan is like Critiqing Michael Jordan's Baseball career, rediculous.

Plus out of all the so called "Protest songs"
Idiot wind is my personal favorite

pplrain said:

Lucky you! I´d love to meet the two of them at that time. I was a "fan of their marriage". I thought they were great together.

EmbattledWarrior said:

You obviously haven't been paying attention. seeingvoices called TDCAU the best political song ever; a ridiculous statement. Some other orgers stepped in to mention some more powerful songs. I merely added to that list.

P.S. Idiot Wind is not a protest song. It's much more in the tradition of Positively Fourth Street and Like A Rolling Stone. Pure personal vituperation (I've never used that word before. Damn I'm good! "Vituperation"! How do you like that, ma? )

SoulAlive said:

Yes, and both videos sucked big time, which was a surprise since Spike always made such great looking films, you would've thought that if nothing else his videos would at least look good, but they didn't. And of course he's famous for being extremely heavy handed, unsubtle and dumb when it comes to political points. The Brazilian version of TDCAU particularly was a disgrace that all parties involved should be ashamed of. It was also the first time I saw MJ dancing like a lookalike. The version here is better and more appropriate, but still extremely problematic for obvious reasons.
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Michael is shit.

the vid was dumb. i dont think its smart to show MJ in jail

Cloudbuster said:

Cloudy where have you been?

midnightmover said:

I know its not a protest song, but if youu read the words it always sounds like a protest song against people who flap their gums way too damn much... erm...

EmbattledWarrior said:

Under your bed.

EmbattledWarrior said:

Sounds like someone is a little bit sore... MJ fans...