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Thread started 12/11/06 8:45am

BillieSparks

Rolling Stones albums

I have these albums
Let It Bleed
Beggars Banquet
Sticky Fingers
Exile On Main Street
Some Girls
Tatoo You


what are some other essential Stones albums I should check out?
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Reply #1 posted 12/11/06 9:32am

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Goats Head Soup
Black and Blue
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Reply #2 posted 12/11/06 9:39am

NorthernLad

check out a couple underrated 80's albums: "Undercover", with its steller single "Undercover of the Night" and "Steel Wheels". Both are very very solid.


I would also recommend their acoustic album "Stripped" - great stuff!!
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Reply #3 posted 12/11/06 12:46pm

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BillieSparks said:

I have these albums
Let It Bleed
Beggars Banquet
Sticky Fingers
Exile On Main Street
Some Girls
Tatoo You


what are some other essential Stones albums I should check out?



Excellent start, Billie. Very impressed that you've got Some Girls and Tattoo You.

Depending on what floats your boat, era-wise, here's where you should go next:

Get Yer Ya-Yas Out - the only official Stones live album you'll really need, except for Stripped, but that's for later. There are some superb bootlegs of the Exile tour, the best of which is The Complete Brussels from 1973. It has superb sound quality and performances to match.

60s:

After-math
Their Satanic Majesties Request - this one's divisive, some loathe it, as many love it; it was, on the surface, The Stones trying to keep up with Sgt Pepper, but dig deeper and you'll find an album that was almost a masterpiece. They never got this bold and experimental until Undercover

70s:

Goats Head Soup - the post-Exile album; underrated at the time (it did follow Exile), but there isn't a bad track here. Ok, I skip Angie, but that's overfamiliarity for you.
Black And Blue - a stew of funk, reggae and bluesy rock; more highpoints than low.

80s:

Steel Wheels - dated production aside, half of this is as close as The Stones came to making another Tattoo You, a third is throwaway, and another third is experimental.
Undercover - arguably their darkest album (nihilistic imagery abounds in almost every song); it's a rock-dance-reggae hybrid.
Emotional Rescue - Some Girls lite (in some cases so lite it floats away)it has some priceless moments - Dance, the title song - but beware, there are stinkers here.

90s

The Stones released all of two studio albums (and three live albums, of which the only good one is Stripped) in the 90s:

Voodoo Lounge - the best of the two (Bridges to Babylon is very avoidable); it's overlong, which wouldn't matter, but there's stuff on there you'll never want to hear again after you've heard it once. They left off two of their best songs from the same sessions - Jump On Top Of Me and So Young.

00s

Here we have a problem, because their latest offering is a slight improvement on the atrocious Bridges to Babylon. Ignore the acclaim heaped on this. It's not a "return to form" and it's vastly inferior to their 80s output; it's two good songs and a bunch of middling to awful ones. Keith's "This Place is Empty" shouldn't have left his brain.


Solo albums:

Mick Jagger - Wandering Spirit is excellent. It was produced by Rick Rubin and might have been even better had he given Rubin more control. I liked Goddess in the Doorway, but it's not really worth getting unless you must have everything.

Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap is also excellent, and much better than the two solo albums Jagger released in the same period (She's The Boss - awful - and Primitive Cool - marginally better). The follow-up, Main Offender, isn't as hot.
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Reply #4 posted 12/11/06 11:04pm

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I have really been digging 'UNDERCOVER' lately. Its very Stones like no doubt, but there are also loads of wonderful instrumentations, mainly percussion and horns.
And like was pointed out earlier from others it just has a great mix of music styles, from funk to reggae to dance and new wave to your classic Stones rockers.

I guess you could call one of the songs off this album, 'All The Way Down' their own version of 'Head'(in subject matter that is) by Prince even!
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Reply #5 posted 12/13/06 2:18pm

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PurpleJam said:

I have really been digging 'UNDERCOVER' lately. Its very Stones like no doubt, but there are also loads of wonderful instrumentations, mainly percussion and horns.
And like was pointed out earlier from others it just has a great mix of music styles, from funk to reggae to dance and new wave to your classic Stones rockers.

I guess you could call one of the songs off this album, 'All The Way Down' their own version of 'Head'(in subject matter that is) by Prince even!



And then there's Starfucker (aka Star Star) with it's "Betcha keepya pussy clean!" line, and the one in Mick's "Sweet Thing" about "Ya hadme licking from your golden spoon", and, of course, "Brown Sugar" ...
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Reply #6 posted 12/14/06 3:32pm

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While they've obviously made some timeless classics, 'Undercover of the Night' was their last truly classic single imo.

As to their recent stuff and any kind of truly creative future, the Stones need to get rid of Don Was as their producer. I mean, he's been there, I think since 'Voodoo Lounge'. He's hardly encouraging them to experiment or develop in any real way. As Mick would say, 'getting old is such a drag'. Doesn't have to be tho ...

David Bowie can reinvent himself in later career, Paul McCartney's still pretty inventive at times, so why can't the Stones?? Maybe Mick needs to be more in the driving seat for an album and in a more asertive, experimental mood than of late, with Keef a little more on the sidelines (and not singing any songs. Ho ho.).

And, to be controversial, I reckon Ronnie Wood did his best stuff with the Faces and Rod Stewart!! biggrin
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Reply #7 posted 12/14/06 3:52pm

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OMFG how can u not have Now! and Between the Buttons (UK!)

and don't forget Aftermath (UK version again)
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Reply #8 posted 12/14/06 6:14pm

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Miles said:

While they've obviously made some timeless classics, 'Undercover of the Night' was their last truly classic single imo.

As to their recent stuff and any kind of truly creative future, the Stones need to get rid of Don Was as their producer. I mean, he's been there, I think since 'Voodoo Lounge'. He's hardly encouraging them to experiment or develop in any real way. As Mick would say, 'getting old is such a drag'. Doesn't have to be tho ...

David Bowie can reinvent himself in later career, Paul McCartney's still pretty inventive at times, so why can't the Stones?? Maybe Mick needs to be more in the driving seat for an album and in a more asertive, experimental mood than of late, with Keef a little more on the sidelines (and not singing any songs. Ho ho.).

And, to be controversial, I reckon Ronnie Wood did his best stuff with the Faces and Rod Stewart!! biggrin



Yeah I have to agree with that.... the last truly brilliant single the Stones did was "undercover of the night".

The did some solid ones after that.... mixed emotions was pretty good, IMHO... but nothing close to undercover of the night.
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Reply #9 posted 12/14/06 9:04pm

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Miles said:

While they've obviously made some timeless classics, 'Undercover of the Night' was their last truly classic single imo.

As to their recent stuff and any kind of truly creative future, the Stones need to get rid of Don Was as their producer. I mean, he's been there, I think since 'Voodoo Lounge'. He's hardly encouraging them to experiment or develop in any real way. As Mick would say, 'getting old is such a drag'. Doesn't have to be tho ...

David Bowie can reinvent himself in later career, Paul McCartney's still pretty inventive at times, so why can't the Stones?? Maybe Mick needs to be more in the driving seat for an album and in a more asertive, experimental mood than of late, with Keef a little more on the sidelines (and not singing any songs. Ho ho.).

And, to be controversial, I reckon Ronnie Wood did his best stuff with the Faces and Rod Stewart!! biggrin



I had read once where Jagger was saying how during the making of 'Voodo Lounge' that the band had been working on certain some songs with some real nice grooves in them and some songs with African influences, but that Don Was had steered them clearly away from all of those types of ideas and told them that they should stick with the kind of material that had worked for them in the past, such as on 'Exile' and such.

Jagger had said later on that he felt that this approach by Was was a mistake and complained that Was had made the 'VL' album way too retro sounding with his obsession of trying to make The Stones sound stuck in 1972.
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Reply #10 posted 12/15/06 10:36pm

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PurpleJam said:

Miles said:

While they've obviously made some timeless classics, 'Undercover of the Night' was their last truly classic single imo.

As to their recent stuff and any kind of truly creative future, the Stones need to get rid of Don Was as their producer. I mean, he's been there, I think since 'Voodoo Lounge'. He's hardly encouraging them to experiment or develop in any real way. As Mick would say, 'getting old is such a drag'. Doesn't have to be tho ...

David Bowie can reinvent himself in later career, Paul McCartney's still pretty inventive at times, so why can't the Stones?? Maybe Mick needs to be more in the driving seat for an album and in a more asertive, experimental mood than of late, with Keef a little more on the sidelines (and not singing any songs. Ho ho.).

And, to be controversial, I reckon Ronnie Wood did his best stuff with the Faces and Rod Stewart!! biggrin



I had read once where Jagger was saying how during the making of 'Voodo Lounge' that the band had been working on certain some songs with some real nice grooves in them and some songs with African influences, but that Don Was had steered them clearly away from all of those types of ideas and told them that they should stick with the kind of material that had worked for them in the past, such as on 'Exile' and such.

Jagger had said later on that he felt that this approach by Was was a mistake and complained that Was had made the 'VL' album way too retro sounding with his obsession of trying to make The Stones sound stuck in 1972.


that's what you always get when you work with Don Was. a watered-down version of yourself.
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Miles said:

While they've obviously made some timeless classics, 'Undercover of the Night' was their last truly classic single imo.

You're right, but I liked their version of Harlem Shuffle, Mixed Emotions was a great song and I've got a soft spot for Anybody Seen My Baby.

As to their recent stuff and any kind of truly creative future, the Stones need to get rid of Don Was as their producer. I mean, he's been there, I think since 'Voodoo Lounge'. He's hardly encouraging them to experiment or develop in any real way. As Mick would say, 'getting old is such a drag'. Doesn't have to be tho ...

You're right, but Rick Rubin fell out with Jagger during the "Wandering Spirit" sessions because Rubin tried to tell him that some of the songs were crap and Jagger was having none of it.

David Bowie can reinvent himself in later career, Paul McCartney's still pretty inventive at times, so why can't the Stones?? Maybe Mick needs to be more in the driving seat for an album and in a more asertive, experimental mood than of late, with Keef a little more on the sidelines (and not singing any songs. Ho ho.).

I think The Stones basically stopped pushing themselves as a creative unit after Steel Wheels (their last decent and interesting album, in my opinion). They basically make albums as tour afterthoughts, albums which basically fit the template Keith worked to when he made Dirty Work (yup, he was the architect of that lurid turd) - an album they can play live, without deviating too far from their template. Listening to the last three pieces of product (which is really what their albums are now - interchangeable pieces of branded metal, the musical equivalent of tee shirts, mugs and other tacky official memorabilia) The Stones have come up with, I can't get away from the impression that they're four company directors getting together to write shareholder reports. I don't think they're interested in breaking new ground, in pushing themselves creatively any more. As far back as 1978, Jagger defined the band's post-Exile attitude as It's 1972. We've made "Exile On Main Street". Fuck it!.

And, to be controversial, I reckon Ronnie Wood did his best stuff with the Faces and Rod Stewart!! biggrin


In terms of his playing - absolutely. Glynn Johns said that Ronnie's joining The Stones was the worst thing for both parties. Ronnie's creativity was effectively stifled, and The Stones had a guitarist who got on with everybody and made them laugh, but not grow, as Mick Taylor and Brian Jones did.

They've made one masterpiece with Ron - Some Girls - but, his slide on Faraway Eyes notwithstanding, his guitar playing on the album is anonymous. Some Girls was almost entirely Jagger's album.
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Reply #12 posted 12/16/06 12:16am

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PurpleJam said:

Miles said:

While they've obviously made some timeless classics, 'Undercover of the Night' was their last truly classic single imo.

As to their recent stuff and any kind of truly creative future, the Stones need to get rid of Don Was as their producer. I mean, he's been there, I think since 'Voodoo Lounge'. He's hardly encouraging them to experiment or develop in any real way. As Mick would say, 'getting old is such a drag'. Doesn't have to be tho ...

David Bowie can reinvent himself in later career, Paul McCartney's still pretty inventive at times, so why can't the Stones?? Maybe Mick needs to be more in the driving seat for an album and in a more asertive, experimental mood than of late, with Keef a little more on the sidelines (and not singing any songs. Ho ho.).

And, to be controversial, I reckon Ronnie Wood did his best stuff with the Faces and Rod Stewart!! biggrin



I had read once where Jagger was saying how during the making of 'Voodo Lounge' that the band had been working on certain some songs with some real nice grooves in them and some songs with African influences, but that Don Was had steered them clearly away from all of those types of ideas and told them that they should stick with the kind of material that had worked for them in the past, such as on 'Exile' and such.

Jagger had said later on that he felt that this approach by Was was a mistake and complained that Was had made the 'VL' album way too retro sounding with his obsession of trying to make The Stones sound stuck in 1972.



Funnily enough they've used Don Was as their producer on the last two albums.
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Reply #13 posted 12/18/06 11:16am

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Miles said:

While they've obviously made some timeless classics, 'Undercover of the Night' was their last truly classic single imo.

As to their recent stuff and any kind of truly creative future, the Stones need to get rid of Don Was as their producer. I mean, he's been there, I think since 'Voodoo Lounge'. He's hardly encouraging them to experiment or develop in any real way. As Mick would say, 'getting old is such a drag'. Doesn't have to be tho ...

David Bowie can reinvent himself in later career, Paul McCartney's still pretty inventive at times, so why can't the Stones?? Maybe Mick needs to be more in the driving seat for an album and in a more asertive, experimental mood than of late, with Keef a little more on the sidelines (and not singing any songs. Ho ho.).

And, to be controversial, I reckon Ronnie Wood did his best stuff with the Faces and Rod Stewart!! biggrin



Yeah I have to agree with that.... the last truly brilliant single the Stones did was "undercover of the night".

The did some solid ones after that.... mixed emotions was pretty good, IMHO... but nothing close to undercover of the night.



I thought that 'Love Is Strong' was a pretty respectable lead off single from the 'Voodoo Lounge' album. Nothing outstanding but a very solid song that was able to capture that classic Stones vibe.
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PurpleJam said:

NorthernLad said:




Yeah I have to agree with that.... the last truly brilliant single the Stones did was "undercover of the night".

The did some solid ones after that.... mixed emotions was pretty good, IMHO... but nothing close to undercover of the night.



I thought that 'Love Is Strong' was a pretty respectable lead off single from the 'Voodoo Lounge' album. Nothing outstanding but a very solid song that was able to capture that classic Stones vibe.


"You Got Me Rockin'" would have been a better choice. Or then "Out of Tears",the album's best song, and arguably one of their best songs of the last twelve years.
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