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Reply #60 posted 10/16/06 9:03am

jjam

paligap said:

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boxed

Is it safe to post yet?

...Ok....



...Like to add A Kat named Lewis Taylor to the list. Sorta like Sly, Shuggie Otis, Brian Wilson, and Todd Rundgren recording with Marvin Gaye....:






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You missed out this one...



The limited edition album from 2002 - only 100 copies run off, featuring

Track (acoustic)
Song (acoustic)
Lucky (acoustic)
If I Lay Down With You (acoustic)
Melt Away (Brian Wilson cover)
Stop, Look, Listen (The Stylistics cover)
Night Fever (The Bee Gees cover)
Highway Star (Deep Purple cover)
Heart of the Sunrise (Yes cover)
Black Dog (Led Zeppelin cover)

Bloody superb!
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Reply #61 posted 10/16/06 9:08am

jjam

Sorry, didn't realise that the scan would be that large!

I can only offer a UK perspective of doing session work. I've only ever had to read music two times for a session, so it's not that important at all. Having said that, I'm glad that I could sightread for those sessions though! What a snobby attitude though for those musicians you mentioned in Nashville to have...I know enough players who have an amazing feel and ear to their playing but can't read a note.

Prince and Lewis Taylor would be my ideal total musicians.
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Reply #62 posted 10/16/06 9:10am

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You missed out this one...



The limited edition album from 2002

Bloody superb!



lol Oh, I know!! I didn't have a picture!! But I have a copy of a copy!!!

Oh, and The B-sides and Rarities, Too!!!!







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Reply #63 posted 10/16/06 9:12am

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I can only offer a UK perspective of doing session work. I've only ever had to read music two times for a session, so it's not that important at all. Having said that, I'm glad that I could sightread for those sessions though! What a snobby attitude though for those musicians you mentioned in Nashville to have...I know enough players who have an amazing feel and ear to their playing but can't read a note.

Prince and Lewis Taylor would be my ideal total musicians.




biggrin Ndeed!!!!



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Reply #64 posted 10/16/06 9:48am

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Jonatha Brooke



biggrin Aw, Kool!! I'm a big Jonatha fan , from back in her days when she fronted The Story (Angel In The House is one of my All-Time Favorites!!):




Have you Checked out her new Live DVD/CD yet?







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" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout
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Reply #65 posted 10/16/06 10:41am

ThreadBare

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biggrin Aw, Kool!! I'm a big Jonatha fan , from back in her days when she fronted The Story (Angel In The House is one of my All-Time Favorites!!):

Have you Checked out her new Live DVD/CD yet?



It's on my "this week" shopping list. I'll probably get it tonight at Tower (while I still can). An ex turned me on to Jonatha (for which I'll forever be grateful); she had that first "Story" album. I'd caught them when they performed "So Much Mine" on "The View," years ago but lost track of them. I've gotten nearly all JB's albums since (still need to nab her live CD, too).

I caught JB here in Nashville about a year ago at an intimate venue; the setting was close enough for me to watch her flawless acoustic work. She's amazing, and her band was incredible.
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Reply #66 posted 10/16/06 10:49am

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I'd caught them when they performed "So Much Mine" on "The View," years ago



Man, I wish I had seen that!! there's so little footage of The Story around...

But I agree, I've seen her live a few times--Great performances!!




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Reply #67 posted 10/16/06 10:51am

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I'd caught them when they performed "So Much Mine" on "The View," years ago



Man, I wish I had seen that!! there's so little footage of The Story around...

But I agree, I've seen her live a few times--Great performances!!




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Yup. She's an encouragement because of her sheer talent. But the lack of industry love for her -- despite that talent -- can be discouraging, too.
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Reply #68 posted 10/16/06 10:51am

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Mong said:



Big deal. It's very uncommon for that to be the case.


wave Hi, occasional session musician here...



HA ! Now I can watch someone else go at it !
*grabs Doritos & Red Bull*
"You can go Fly ya Mama's Kite" (c) Prince
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Reply #69 posted 10/16/06 10:58am

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stopHATING said:

ThreadBare said:



wave Hi, occasional session musician here...



HA ! Now I can watch someone else go at it !
*grabs Doritos & Red Bull*



Sorry, amigo. There won't be any going at it. Just wanted him to understand my info was firsthand.

Peace to you.
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Reply #70 posted 10/16/06 11:02am

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Mong said:

Quite a few friends of mine are session musicians and only once was one of them asked to read from sheet paper. You are SO far off the mark, Pfunkjazz. Not to mention up your own ass.


Well, with all due respect, I can tell you the top cats in Nashville have been known to be cruel to wanna-be session cats who are killers but illiterate.

It might be snobbery, but it's a fact of life in many places: If you can't read (and read well), prepare to be dissed.



You're right I've heard about the "Block-out" in nashville. but, it reminds me of how being an elitist is soooo wrong & assbackwards. There are indigenous people who make cultural artifacts/music, where their techniques are often Studied, yet these very same people would NOT be allowed to teach "their OWN culture" unless they had adegree from an institution that learned & teaches this craft taught by the "indigenous Ones ?!?" Something's really wrong here ?
The best that usually happens is a guilty-ridden & long overdue "Honorary Doctorate ?!?"

disbelief
"You can go Fly ya Mama's Kite" (c) Prince
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Reply #71 posted 10/16/06 11:05am

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stopHATING said:




HA ! Now I can watch someone else go at it !
*grabs Doritos & Red Bull*



Sorry, amigo. There won't be any going at it. Just wanted him to understand my info was firsthand.

Peace to you.



I was just kidding, now that it Is safe to come in here !
lol
PEACE to you as well!
"You can go Fly ya Mama's Kite" (c) Prince
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Reply #72 posted 10/16/06 11:16am

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off the top of my head:

Stanley Clarke
George Michael
Jon. B
Chuckii Booker
Charlie Singleton
David Ryan Harris
Tony Rich
Brown Mark
Victor Wooten
Stokley Williams
Remy Shand
Jane Child
Ernie Isley
Shawn Lane
Eric Gales
D'Angelo
...there are a lot more but why try to name them all?

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Reply #73 posted 10/16/06 11:22am

Harlepolis

thekidsgirl said:

babynoz said:

Where's Kidsgirl? lol

If I could just interject something here, when kidsgirl stated that Prince "writes" I took it to mean that he writes songs, meaning lyrics. She never said he writes music. She never said he reads music. She only said that he writes.

And that he does.

I'll butt out now. giggle


Yeah, my thread was pretty much "jacked up" for a while

but thanks for the suggustions everybody!! biggrin
I notice though alot of you named male artists.

Lets not forget some ladies who can do it all


How you sound? I mentioned her....

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Reply #74 posted 10/16/06 11:26am

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Harlepolis said:

thekidsgirl said:



Yeah, my thread was pretty much "jacked up" for a while

but thanks for the suggustions everybody!! biggrin
I notice though alot of you named male artists.

Lets not forget some ladies who can do it all


How you sound? I mentioned her....


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Hey Harle, Did you ever find a copy of Patrice's "Shout It Out" ?




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Reply #75 posted 10/16/06 11:30am

Harlepolis

I'm still on the look out, child sigh
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Reply #76 posted 10/16/06 11:34am

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I'm still on the look out, child sigh



sad oh well...Shout when you do!! That's the only one I haven't caught.....



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Reply #77 posted 10/16/06 11:35am

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Harlepolis said:

I'm still on the look out, child sigh



I have it. Not the greatest copy, but I DO have it on vinyl.
"You can go Fly ya Mama's Kite" (c) Prince
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Reply #78 posted 10/16/06 11:41am

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Harlepolis said:

I'm still on the look out, child sigh



I have it. Not the greatest copy, but I DO have it on vinyl.


biggrin Kool!! I used to see used copies all the time, but now that I'm looking, it's kinda scarce...I think Harle is hopin' for a CD reissue, though...



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Reply #79 posted 10/16/06 11:48am

Harlepolis

Thats what I'm talking about ya'll.

Fantasy/Prestige records need to step up and reissue that lil' sucka,,,my patience ain't made of steel sigh

Thanx for the offer, StopHating(What the hell is your name lol ) but I couldn't put you through trouble on my account,,,,beside, don't have no wrecka playa anymore sad
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Reply #80 posted 10/16/06 11:49am

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stopHATING said:




I have it. Not the greatest copy, but I DO have it on vinyl.


biggrin Kool!! I used to see used copies all the time, but now that I'm looking, it's kinda scarce...I think Harle is hopin' for a CD reissue, though...



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Yeah, me too! you'll notice that I didn't offer it. I mean it's listenable..
so I'm waiting for the re-issue as well. sad
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Reply #81 posted 10/16/06 11:52am

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Harlepolis said:

Thats what I'm talking about ya'll.

Fantasy/Prestige records need to step up and reissue that lil' sucka,,,my patience ain't made of steel sigh

Thanx for the offer, StopHating(What the hell is your name lol ) but I couldn't put you through trouble on my account,,,,beside, don't have no wrecka playa anymore sad



Hahaha ! Eric's my govt name...but, hey I do have a cd version of "the hump"
it's all yours if ya want it ! It's funny I was gonna suggest Paligap for that vinyl.
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Reply #82 posted 10/16/06 11:56am

Harlepolis

stopHATING said:

Harlepolis said:

Thats what I'm talking about ya'll.

Fantasy/Prestige records need to step up and reissue that lil' sucka,,,my patience ain't made of steel sigh

Thanx for the offer, StopHating(What the hell is your name lol ) but I couldn't put you through trouble on my account,,,,beside, don't have no wrecka playa anymore sad



Hahaha ! Eric's my govt name...but, hey I do have a cd version of "the hump"
it's all yours if ya want it ! It's funny I was gonna suggest Paligap for that vinyl.


Thing is, I'm getting tired of all these records.

I need something handy, for a change ya know lol something I can put in my purse.

Vinyls are too home-ish, you will not carry those anywhere,,,and I love carrying my music with me.
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Reply #83 posted 10/16/06 12:00pm

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stopHATING said:




Hahaha ! Eric's my govt name...but, hey I do have a cd version of "the hump"
it's all yours if ya want it ! It's funny I was gonna suggest Paligap for that vinyl.


Thing is, I'm getting tired of all these records.

I need something handy, for a change ya know lol something I can put in my purse.

Vinyls are too home-ish, you will not carry those anywhere,,,and I love carrying my music with me.



I Feel ya. iPod to the Rescue...What ?1?!
music
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Reply #84 posted 10/16/06 12:04pm

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Alright, you know what? I'm gonna take back everything I said, if you Mr.CMTally can tell me what song(s) if ANY that you have played on that ANY one of us have discussed at ANY time on these boards. I wanna know which LP or CD that has YOU on it, which can back up your utter dis-respect for "Gifted" albeit "illiterate" as YOU call them, Musicians & or sidemen or session players. I swear you will NEVER hear me come at you sideways again, about Music or any of the "Other" arts.

PLEASE , GIVE US A LINK / UPLOAD ??
Otherwise , you're just a Message Board wanna-be "Quincy Jones"

*waits patiently, with fucked up spelling & all*

Oh, and my personal apologies to "Thekidsgirl" for this post taking a slightly STUPID turn. this "was" a Great Topic

btw... I'll take Walter "JUNIE" Morrison for $1000 , Alex ?
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Really and truly I'm done with this mess. I've got a life away from this board and it does take priority, so I've faded from battling with you.

However, I do want to respond to your "challenge". It appears your skills at reading and interpretation led you to infer that I work professionally in the commercial music industry. Nothing like that was inferred and you will not find me on anybody's recording session. There's nothing for me to upload for your edification, so it's meaningles and contrary to the point of the debate. You, and others allied with you, should go back and review to find where I said Prince (or any non sight-reader) was not "gifted" or "creative". I know the word "illiterate" carries a very pejorative connotation and thus prevented the fanbots from reading objectively.

Please post it if you find it.


Suffice, to say, I have had a pretty thorough education in music and I, at least, know how to sight-read and even transcribe. I'll be the first to admit my writing skills are subpar. Furthermore, be aware that one can make a very comfortable living in music away from the consumerist-driven recording industry.
There are many avenues open to pursue.


(I will cop to the fact that the initial post, simply stating Prince does not read or write, was thrown up to plug the Eric Leeds interview used in Cole's research. My only objective was to stimulate interest in THE LAST MILES, but your moronic antagonism rubbed me the wrong way that morning).

Feel free to comment on my posts. I'll be more than happy to clue you in when you need it.
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Reply #85 posted 10/16/06 12:07pm

Harlepolis

Have mercy, its on again disbelief lol
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Reply #86 posted 10/16/06 12:10pm

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PFunkjazz said:

stopHATING said:

Alright, you know what? I'm gonna take back everything I said, if you Mr.CMTally can tell me what song(s) if ANY that you have played on that ANY one of us have discussed at ANY time on these boards. I wanna know which LP or CD that has YOU on it, which can back up your utter dis-respect for "Gifted" albeit "illiterate" as YOU call them, Musicians & or sidemen or session players. I swear you will NEVER hear me come at you sideways again, about Music or any of the "Other" arts.

PLEASE , GIVE US A LINK / UPLOAD ??
Otherwise , you're just a Message Board wanna-be "Quincy Jones"

*waits patiently, with fucked up spelling & all*

Oh, and my personal apologies to "Thekidsgirl" for this post taking a slightly STUPID turn. this "was" a Great Topic

btw... I'll take Walter "JUNIE" Morrison for $1000 , Alex ?
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[Edited 10/15/06 12:40pm]



Really and truly I'm done with this mess. I've got a life away from this board and it does take priority, so I've faded from battling with you.

However, I do want to respond to your "challenge". It appears your skills at reading and interpretation led you to infer that I work professionally in the commercial music industry. Nothing like that was inferred and you will not find me on anybody's recording session. There's nothing for me to upload for your edification, so it's meaningles and contrary to the point of the debate. You, and others allied with you, should go back and review to find where I said Prince (or any non sight-reader) was not "gifted" or "creative". I know the word "illiterate" carries a very pejorative connotation and thus prevented the fanbots from reading objectively.

Please post it if you find it.


Suffice, to say, I have had a pretty thorough education in music and I, at least, know how to sight-read and even transcribe. I'll be the first to admit my writing skills are subpar. Furthermore, be aware that one can make a very comfortable living in music away from the consumerist-driven recording industry.
There are many avenues open to pursue.


(I will cop to the fact that the initial post, simply stating Prince does not read or write, was thrown up to plug the Eric Leeds interview used in Cole's research. My only objective was to stimulate interest in THE LAST MILES, but your moronic antagonism rubbed me the wrong way that morning).

Feel free to comment on my posts. I'll be more than happy to clue you in when you need it.


Dude, I'd REALLY like to get on with my Life today...PLEASE ???
oh, well it was safe for awhile. *calls the cops*
"You can go Fly ya Mama's Kite" (c) Prince
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Reply #87 posted 10/16/06 2:20pm

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Music is a language. There is no crime in knowing how to read and write it just like any other language. Not knowing how to read or write it does not prevent you from speaking it, although it does make you illiterate. NOw let's be done with this because no one that reads or writes music would even question that.
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Reply #88 posted 10/16/06 2:29pm

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Music is a language. There is no crime in knowing how to read and write it just like any other language. Not knowing how to read or write it does not prevent you from speaking it, although it does make you illiterate. NOw let's be done with this because no one that reads or writes music would even question that.



Damn, where were you earlier ?
Talk to ya Boy, but don't forget BK...there are MANY Brilliant Minds out there
who DO NOT have a command on the "King's English" MJ comes to mind.
And,Prince's use of "wordplay" is just brilliant man. Some thought he was either
"illiterate" or "shy" when all he could do was flash the no.FOUR at Dick Clark in '79
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Reply #89 posted 10/16/06 2:36pm

Graycap23

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Facts are facts, but not reading/writing doesn't mean someone can't function musically (you just don't get a lot of sessionwork). Not reading or writing certainly calls into question claims of songwriting prowess when only a single composer is credited.

For the most part, George Clinton shared credits with Bernie Worrell (can't speak much on delivering royalty payments) and William Collins, but even Bootsy doesn't read music.
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Don't know if I agree with this. With programs like Digital Performer or Cubase,U can play a part into the squencer and the program will transcribe what u played into sheet music. It's not that difficult 2 do.
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