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Reply #30 posted 10/03/06 1:47pm

goosebumps

The Beatles back catalogue should be left alone,what else do they have to prove? Next they'll have 50 cent rapping over Hey Jude.....heaven forbid.
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Reply #31 posted 10/03/06 2:17pm

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I've heard that this is like an 80 minute mash-up tape.

For instance, the vocals to 'Within You, Without You' are mixed into the rhythm section of 'Tomorrow Never Knows' at one point.

It sounds intriguing.


exactly. It's an authorized remix.

I'd rather they gave the old albums a proper stereo mix & remaster.
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Reply #32 posted 10/03/06 2:29pm

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NDRU said:

Justin1972UK said:

I've heard that this is like an 80 minute mash-up tape.

For instance, the vocals to 'Within You, Without You' are mixed into the rhythm section of 'Tomorrow Never Knows' at one point.

It sounds intriguing.


exactly. It's an authorized remix.

I'd rather they gave the old albums a proper stereo mix & remaster.



they're being remastered right now, i believe. there was a story about it a few months ago that they're remastering them for digital release AND cd re-releases.

but, honestly, i'm hoping they're not in stereo. let's not re-write history.
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Reply #33 posted 10/03/06 2:38pm

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Tessa said:

NDRU said:



exactly. It's an authorized remix.

I'd rather they gave the old albums a proper stereo mix & remaster.



they're being remastered right now, i believe. there was a story about it a few months ago that they're remastering them for digital release AND cd re-releases.

but, honestly, i'm hoping they're not in stereo. let's not re-write history.


The proper mono mixes would be fine. They were crappily mixed for stereo in the 60's and I think that's what's on cd, isn't it? Maybe I'm wrong.
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Reply #34 posted 10/03/06 3:02pm

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goosebumps said:

The Beatles back catalogue should be left alone,what else do they have to prove? Next they'll have 50 cent rapping over Hey Jude.....heaven forbid.

Jay Z rapped already over "Yesterday" and Macca was there...The next colection should be title LOVEFORTHEMONEY
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Reply #35 posted 10/03/06 3:03pm

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NDRU said:

Tessa said:




they're being remastered right now, i believe. there was a story about it a few months ago that they're remastering them for digital release AND cd re-releases.

but, honestly, i'm hoping they're not in stereo. let's not re-write history.


The proper mono mixes would be fine. They were crappily mixed for stereo in the 60's and I think that's what's on cd, isn't it? Maybe I'm wrong.



i don't think so. at least not the early ones. those are in mono, i believe. except for Help... which they remixed.
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Reply #36 posted 10/03/06 3:20pm

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YES!! If you've seen the Cirque d'Soleil show, you'll understand how awesome the music sounds, having been remastered. Celebrate this, mock it not. If you're a
beatle fan, it's a plus.
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Reply #37 posted 10/03/06 3:31pm

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Tessa said:

NDRU said:



The proper mono mixes would be fine. They were crappily mixed for stereo in the 60's and I think that's what's on cd, isn't it? Maybe I'm wrong.



i don't think so. at least not the early ones. those are in mono, i believe. except for Help... which they remixed.


What about Revolver?

I got to know the Beatles' music on record, which had the bad stereo mixes, so I haven't paid close attention to the mix on the cd.
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Reply #38 posted 10/03/06 7:20pm

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NDRU said:

Justin1972UK said:

I've heard that this is like an 80 minute mash-up tape.

For instance, the vocals to 'Within You, Without You' are mixed into the rhythm section of 'Tomorrow Never Knows' at one point.

It sounds intriguing.


exactly. It's an authorized remix.

I'd rather they gave the old albums a proper stereo mix & remaster.


Give that time.. I personally am satisfied with the sound of the cd's... it aint no thing to me any longer to have them in the best quality..

I'm for experimenting with their sounds
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Reply #39 posted 10/03/06 7:24pm

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I'm for experimenting with their sounds


Me too, I mean, if anyone should mess with their catalog, mightas well be George Martin and the 2 remaining Beatles.
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Reply #40 posted 10/03/06 7:56pm

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Sdldawn said:


I'm for experimenting with their sounds


Me too, I mean, if anyone should mess with their catalog, mightas well be George Martin and the 2 remaining Beatles.


Yup, I instantly felt good about it when I read that he was behind it all.
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Reply #41 posted 10/03/06 8:44pm

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An even better stamp, to me at least is the fact that Julian, is praising it. And that is not easy considering his views on Yoko and the catalog and Johns works.
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Reply #42 posted 10/04/06 10:23am

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Sdldawn said:

NDRU said:



exactly. It's an authorized remix.

I'd rather they gave the old albums a proper stereo mix & remaster.


Give that time.. I personally am satisfied with the sound of the cd's... it aint no thing to me any longer to have them in the best quality..

I'm for experimenting with their sounds


I was really pleased with Let It Be...Naked, though. It's a slippery slope, messing with the Beatles, but I think stuff like Revolver & the White Album could sound better.

I'm interested in this reworking of their music too, though.
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Reply #43 posted 10/04/06 1:02pm

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Where the hell is Moonbeam?

He must tell u all that this "new" New Age Beatles is already overrated
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Reply #44 posted 10/04/06 1:36pm

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it will probably come out in 5.1 dvd audio! That would be fun.
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Reply #45 posted 10/04/06 1:51pm

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I think the whole Beatles mashup idea could really sound amazing. They did do some great work with sound collages throughout the later part of their career... Can you imagine what they could do nowadays with stuff like 'I am the Walrus' or 'Strawberry Fields Forever'? Could be just drool worthy...
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Reply #46 posted 10/04/06 1:51pm

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bublebath said:

Where the hell is Moonbeam?

He must tell u all that this "new" New Age Beatles is already overrated



lol
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Reply #47 posted 10/04/06 1:53pm

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Tessa said:

NDRU said:



The proper mono mixes would be fine. They were crappily mixed for stereo in the 60's and I think that's what's on cd, isn't it? Maybe I'm wrong.



i don't think so. at least not the early ones. those are in mono, i believe. except for Help... which they remixed.



I'm not sure when the starting point was, but the later Beatles albums were mixed in a 'distorted' mono fashion. It's really noticible when you have a speaker go out on you. I was in my car, and had the speaker balance shifted entirely to the left channel when a Beatles song came on my Ipod. You literally miss out on half of the song, because of how it was mixed.
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Reply #48 posted 10/04/06 2:21pm

Miles

Bring it on. George, Giles, John, Paul 'Hari and Ringo, lost in the mix. cool

At this stage, not having heard it, my ears are open and so is my mind. smile
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Reply #49 posted 10/04/06 2:26pm

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Axchi696 said:

Tessa said:




i don't think so. at least not the early ones. those are in mono, i believe. except for Help... which they remixed.



I'm not sure when the starting point was, but the later Beatles albums were mixed in a 'distorted' mono fashion. It's really noticible when you have a speaker go out on you. I was in my car, and had the speaker balance shifted entirely to the left channel when a Beatles song came on my Ipod. You literally miss out on half of the song, because of how it was mixed.


That's what I'm talking about. George Martin & Geoff Emerick worked really hard on the mono mixes, but the stereo mixes are terrible--voices to one side, music to another.

I'd like to hear Revolver with a proper stereo mix, and I don't think the cd has that or even the original mono mix (maybe the early albums do, I'm not sure).
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Reply #50 posted 10/04/06 2:45pm

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NDRU said:

Axchi696 said:




I'm not sure when the starting point was, but the later Beatles albums were mixed in a 'distorted' mono fashion. It's really noticible when you have a speaker go out on you. I was in my car, and had the speaker balance shifted entirely to the left channel when a Beatles song came on my Ipod. You literally miss out on half of the song, because of how it was mixed.


That's what I'm talking about. George Martin & Geoff Emerick worked really hard on the mono mixes, but the stereo mixes are terrible--voices to one side, music to another.

I'd like to hear Revolver with a proper stereo mix, and I don't think the cd has that or even the original mono mix (maybe the early albums do, I'm not sure).


WHAT? Revolver was done after the complete split early trend of stereo mixing, it was a true stereo album!

The albums were mixed in both mono and stereo records at the same time in the early days. Check the dates of the mixes.
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Reply #51 posted 10/04/06 2:49pm

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ufoclub said:

NDRU said:



That's what I'm talking about. George Martin & Geoff Emerick worked really hard on the mono mixes, but the stereo mixes are terrible--voices to one side, music to another.

I'd like to hear Revolver with a proper stereo mix, and I don't think the cd has that or even the original mono mix (maybe the early albums do, I'm not sure).


WHAT? Revolver was done after the complete split early trend of stereo mixing, it was a true stereo album!

The albums were mixed in both mono and stereo records at the same time in the early days. Check the dates of the mixes.


Not so sure. I believe if you listen to Taxman and adjust the balance, you'll hear the voices on one side & instruments on another.

Geoff Emerick (their recording engineer) recently wrote a book in which he said that mono was the only real way to listen to Revolver, as the stereo mix is terrible.

He said they did mono & stereo mixes for the albums, like you said, but didn't spend as much time on the stereo ones, and George Martin was the one who created those "voices to one side" mixes.

I guess you could call that "true stereo," but not "good stereo" like you might hear on Abbey Road.
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Reply #52 posted 10/04/06 3:52pm

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NDRU said:

ufoclub said:



WHAT? Revolver was done after the complete split early trend of stereo mixing, it was a true stereo album!

The albums were mixed in both mono and stereo records at the same time in the early days. Check the dates of the mixes.


Not so sure. I believe if you listen to Taxman and adjust the balance, you'll hear the voices on one side & instruments on another.

Geoff Emerick (their recording engineer) recently wrote a book in which he said that mono was the only real way to listen to Revolver, as the stereo mix is terrible.

He said they did mono & stereo mixes for the albums, like you said, but didn't spend as much time on the stereo ones, and George Martin was the one who created those "voices to one side" mixes.

I guess you could call that "true stereo," but not "good stereo" like you might hear on Abbey Road.
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obviously Taxman was mixed that way, but I bet that was Paul's request... but what about all the other songs?
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Reply #53 posted 10/04/06 4:05pm

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ufoclub said:

NDRU said:



Not so sure. I believe if you listen to Taxman and adjust the balance, you'll hear the voices on one side & instruments on another.

Geoff Emerick (their recording engineer) recently wrote a book in which he said that mono was the only real way to listen to Revolver, as the stereo mix is terrible.

He said they did mono & stereo mixes for the albums, like you said, but didn't spend as much time on the stereo ones, and George Martin was the one who created those "voices to one side" mixes.

I guess you could call that "true stereo," but not "good stereo" like you might hear on Abbey Road.
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obviously Taxman was mixed that way, but I bet that was Paul's request... but what about all the other songs?


I don't have Revolver with me but I just listened to Magical Mystery Tour, and it was like that. One speaker would be complete silence until a guitar or drum came in while the other would have bass & vocals, or something like that.

That is stereo in the true sense, but it's not good stereo. Isolating the drums to one side wouldn't happen nowadays, but neither would the Beatles' music...so what's my point again?
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