My very first impression when I heard Madonna's "confession" album was that this was the album Kylie has always been trying to make. When I first started becoming aware of Kylie, my first reaction was that I could not believe that locomotion chick was still making music and I basically wrote her off. Then some friends started sending me some of her music and I thought....ok

To me, Kylie's music isn't always consistent. If you listen to her stuff, you get different elements that are exactly along the lines of Madonna's dancefloor. I just think she has never had an album of solid songs that can compare. More like that kind of musical brilliance is sprinkled throughout her albums. I am not wild about a lot of Kylie's stuff but there is a good portion of her music that I go absolutely nuts over

Kylie should be proud that Madonna chose to make a Kylie album

I'll just say that I would class 4 of Kylie's post-PWL albums as much much better than Confessions On A Dancefloor. Only Fever falls short.

At first I was really disappointed because I loved the direction Madonna was going in from "Ray of Light' onward.

Now that it's been out awhile, I can take it for what it is, but it will never be my favorite Madonna record.

Ellie said:

Maybe I gotta go back and buy these albums because I have only heard scraps from them and I thought body language was a great example of some not so great stuff and some stellar stuff. Not a solid experience for me but there are songs on that album I could listen to 24/7

PS....what is PWL? I'm kinda Kylie challenged

wait, COAD is consistent?

sosgemini said:

As a stand alone experience, yes It is musically cohesive and pretty fluid.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Madonna's Caught Up sound too much like Kylie's I Believe In You.

And BOTH of those songs sound alot like Donna Summers' I Feel Love.

So before we start giving Kylie or Madonna too much credit, let us given a shout-out to the original Queen Of Disco & Electronic Dance.....

TonyVanDam said:

Oh come on now.....

Like nobody noticed the Summers rip off? This aint about blatant thievery and nobody, certainly not me, is trying to rob Donna of her props.

Carry on....

PS-Madonna also ripped off Pet Shop Boys
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

To tell you the true, Cher had a headstart on using THE Donna Summer-type sounds with Believe & Strong Enough.

No matter how hard the haters try, Disco can't say dead. Ever!
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TonyVanDam said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

It's the album Kylie's made a hell of a lot better - twice. That would be Fever and Body Language. And her non-dance extravaganzas are a hell of a lot better than Confessions, which is the first Madonna record I did not purchase.

A lot of Madonna fans on the org tend to dislike Kylie, but some (like myself and ehuffsd and MikeMatronik) represent. I'm not afraid to say that Fever and Body Language trump COAD, and that Goldfrapp's Supernature trumps them all.
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Madonna's 'Forbidden Love' also sounds like Kylie's 'Light Years' - both Donna Summer inspired.

And don't even get me started on 'Mother & Father' completely ripping off the intro to the title track to 'Fever'.

PWL = Pete Waterman Limited. The British label for Kylie's first 4 albums produced by Stock/Aitken/Waterman. They were released on Mushroom in Australia.

Ellie said:

Well, they were both ripping off Daft Punk and other French disco as far back as 2000, so it's a bit of a 'chicken/egg' argument.

VoicesCarry said:

i love madonna & kylie too, but i think body language is 5x better than coad... and i would definitely trade in my madge tix to see kylie instead

funkin4kix said:

Yes, Kylie puts on a hell of a show!

I think Fever is overrated tripe... Body Language is decent but i don't find one album in Kylie's collection that matches any of Madonna's album.

She comes off as way too camp for my tastes and her voice turns me off.

I feel Confessions puts Kylie in her place, of course this is my opinion so the Kylie faries best not tear me apart.

VoicesCarry said:

I haven't heard Fever in it's entirety but I enjoy confessionsmuch more than Body Language. A lot of the stuff on Body language I find quite boring but I love "Still Standing", "Promises", "Sweet Music", "I feel for You", "Someday".....and don't even get me started on "You Make Me Feel". I freakin LOVE that song The rest of the songs I could simply do without.

So my argument is more consistency than quality. Or maybe it's a bit of both. Body language is not consistent and fluid the way confessions is, at least that's the way it sounds to my ears. And let's just save Supernature for another thread That album is so fuckin good it's just ridiculous. I love that someone made a new wave album that really matters

jayaredee said:

Hey you!

I really feel like Madonna ripped off Kylie with confessions It's clearly an album that Madonna can easily pull off but Kylie has been doing this stuff for longer.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

To each his own. I think COADF is complete trash, Get Together excepted.

VoicesCarry said:

I can't see how a Kylie Freak couldn't like "confessions". It's really the same style of music and production.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

It's easy: Confessions sounds like shit to my ears, whereas Fever and Body Language do not . Perhaps it is Stuart Price's production, which I have never been a big fan of, spread across 12 tracks that all sound very similar, and the fact that she still hasn't dropped her pseudo-intellectual bullshit on certain tracks (Isaac has got to be one of the worst things she's ever cut, IMHO). Oh, and she's still telling me what it's like to be famous
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VoicesCarry said:

Sounds like you have personality conflicts. "Slow" is a hot steaming pile of shit compared to some of the stuff on dancefloor

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Just a lot better.... The production of Kylie's albums has always been second rate, with the exception of BL, which ironically didn't sell as well commercially. I guess her fans like it to sound cheap.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Slow is HAWT. Sexy stuff! I am sorry but I think Hung Up is a terrible track; from the moment I heard it I knew I wouldn't like the project. And then DavidEye, who hates samples, says "This is the correct way to use a sample - to ENHANCE the song." And I'm like, "Dude, they added a backbeat to a looped ABBA sample. WTF?! So lame."

VoicesCarry said:

Maybe Kylie fans do like it cheap because I thought confessions was very effective as far as the employment of samples































PS-I don't think you're cheap

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

You mean sampling the I Feel Love bassline, one of the most recognizeable in all dance music, is an EFFECTIVE sample? NO! That shit is so distracting, since I'm constantly reminded of how groundbreaking IFL was and how BORING the track is!

VoicesCarry said:

Now come on, we all know Janet has iced her albums with obvious samples in some of her biggest hits too. You know better than that

jayaredee said:

Uh uh, Jay; let's NOT turn this into a Madonna vs. Janet thread

And yes, she has; and yes, I think they're real distracting and shitty, too.

The advantage of this is that DavidEye can no longer bitch about Janet's sampling, since Madge sampled more on this record than Janet has on her last two
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jayaredee said:

Right?!

VoicesCarry said:

No you don't..... is Rhythm Nation shitty? Please.....