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Toni Braxton "No one sing anymore"

"Staying motivated can be really hard, says Braxton, "especially in this business where it's changing. For example, when I first came out, it was about big ballads. Now, it's not about ballads as much, so it's hard for me as a singer to get motivated to do songs. I find them less challenging to sing. I could be in the studio for 15 minutes singing a song, and, then, sometimes I find that I don't know what to do because it's so not complicated to sing it. I may be in there for two hours singing a song that would normally take about 45 minutes because I would have to find a way not to oversing it, so it's played out now, so, I can't sing those [kinds of] songs anymore. I have a problem adjusting to songs that call for less vocal approaches. Holding back is a challenge for me because no one sings anymore."

I really hope that Toni makes a comeback, radio have ignored the 4 tracks they already sent/leaked to radio.
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Reply #1 posted 08/23/05 2:17am

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It seems like no one cares that she's back?

How can Toni get herself in the media so that people remember her name?
how about a t-shirt that should at leat get yo u into this weeks "EW"?


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Reply #2 posted 08/23/05 3:14am

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I'm loving Please headbang
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Reply #3 posted 08/23/05 3:27am

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love Toni...

a great vocalist.

i think she should just be free to do what she feels. not the R&B pop thats out. it doesnt suit her style at all.
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Reply #4 posted 08/23/05 5:20am

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I'm loving Please headbang



meeeee too!!! I wish folks would embrace her like Mariah's stank ass (please note: I do like Mariah...but she is stank)

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Reply #5 posted 08/23/05 5:31am

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I wonder if she's ever heard Lady Bunny's impression of her...funny stuff.
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Reply #6 posted 08/23/05 7:59am

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boxed - -I'll just get in ahead of time but.... whew!(I'm scared) -- fuck it!
Ever since Toni got a weave and discovered she can be a sex symbol the bitch stopped singing! -- All I hear now are MUMBLES... the only thing I heard in the 'man enough for me' song was.. he wasn't man enough for me! Damn, articulate your words so I can hear the lyrics dammit! -- Don't get me wrong I loved Toni all the way until 'Unbreak my heart' but after that she stopped singing like she did when she was with babyface! neutral


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Reply #7 posted 08/23/05 9:08am

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SweetKreme said:

boxed - -I'll just get in ahead of time but.... whew!(I'm scared) -- fuck it!
Ever since Toni got a weave and discovered she can be a sex symbol the bitch stopped singing! -- All I hear now are MUMBLES... the only thing I heard in the 'man enough for me' song was.. he wasn't man enough for me! Damn, articulate your words so I can hear the lyrics dammit! -- Don't get me wrong I loved Toni all the way until 'Unbreak my heart' but after that she stopped singing like she did when she was with babyface! neutral


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I agree that she needs really good material to stand out from the Ashanti's. I', sorry but the kid's don't want an old Ashanti...they don't even want Ashanti anymore! "Please" is nice but it is mumbled and sounds "He Wasn't Man Enough 2005" (actually, more like 2002, but who's counting on how dated it is).
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Reply #8 posted 08/23/05 9:12am

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SweetKreme said:

boxed - -I'll just get in ahead of time but.... whew!(I'm scared) -- fuck it!
Ever since Toni got a weave and discovered she can be a sex symbol the bitch stopped singing! -- All I hear now are MUMBLES... the only thing I heard in the 'man enough for me' song was.. he wasn't man enough for me! Damn, articulate your words so I can hear the lyrics dammit! -- Don't get me wrong I loved Toni all the way until 'Unbreak my heart' but after that she stopped singing like she did when she was with babyface! neutral


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Its funny how girls love that "unbreak my heart" song. God bless diane warren eh.
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Reply #9 posted 08/23/05 10:03am

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VinnyM27 said:

SweetKreme said:

boxed - -I'll just get in ahead of time but.... whew!(I'm scared) -- fuck it!
Ever since Toni got a weave and discovered she can be a sex symbol the bitch stopped singing! -- All I hear now are MUMBLES... the only thing I heard in the 'man enough for me' song was.. he wasn't man enough for me! Damn, articulate your words so I can hear the lyrics dammit! -- Don't get me wrong I loved Toni all the way until 'Unbreak my heart' but after that she stopped singing like she did when she was with babyface! neutral


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I agree that she needs really good material to stand out from the Ashanti's. I', sorry but the kid's don't want an old Ashanti...they don't even want Ashanti anymore! "Please" is nice but it is mumbled and sounds "He Wasn't Man Enough 2005" (actually, more like 2002, but who's counting on how dated it is).



I feel you! an old Ashanti falloff How true!
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Reply #10 posted 08/23/05 10:47am

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twink69 said:

"Staying motivated can be really hard, says Braxton, "especially in this business where it's changing. For example, when I first came out, it was about big ballads. Now, it's not about ballads as much, so it's hard for me as a singer to get motivated to do songs. I find them less challenging to sing. I could be in the studio for 15 minutes singing a song, and, then, sometimes I find that I don't know what to do because it's so not complicated to sing it. I may be in there for two hours singing a song that would normally take about 45 minutes because I would have to find a way not to oversing it, so it's played out now, so, I can't sing those [kinds of] songs anymore. I have a problem adjusting to songs that call for less vocal approaches. Holding back is a challenge for me because no one sings anymore."

I really hope that Toni makes a comeback, radio have ignored the 4 tracks they already sent/leaked to radio.


Over on AOL, Lil' Mo was saying the same thing about no one singing anymore. She said the only singers she likes now are Faith Evans, Fantasia and Mary J. Blige.
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Reply #11 posted 08/23/05 10:47am

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SweetKreme said:

boxed - -I'll just get in ahead of time but.... whew!(I'm scared) -- fuck it!
Ever since Toni got a weave and discovered she can be a sex symbol the bitch stopped singing! -- All I hear now are MUMBLES... the only thing I heard in the 'man enough for me' song was.. he wasn't man enough for me! Damn, articulate your words so I can hear the lyrics dammit! -- Don't get me wrong I loved Toni all the way until 'Unbreak my heart' but after that she stopped singing like she did when she was with babyface! neutral


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Have to agree with that!
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Reply #12 posted 08/23/05 10:58am

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SweetKreme said:

boxed - -I'll just get in ahead of time but.... whew!(I'm scared) -- fuck it!
Ever since Toni got a weave and discovered she can be a sex symbol the bitch stopped singing! -- All I hear now are MUMBLES... the only thing I heard in the 'man enough for me' song was.. he wasn't man enough for me! Damn, articulate your words so I can hear the lyrics dammit! -- Don't get me wrong I loved Toni all the way until 'Unbreak my heart' but after that she stopped singing like she did when she was with babyface! neutral


Getting in the box edit
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I agree! clapping
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Reply #13 posted 08/23/05 11:05am

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Why doesn't she just sing? Does she think Luther Vandross would have stopped singing just because hip hop is more popular?

She's beautiful & talented, but she tries WAY too hard to be "what we want her to be." Not just musically, but with outfits that look ridiculous. She looks better in jeans & t-shirt than she has in any of her red carpet outfits.
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Reply #14 posted 08/23/05 11:23am

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Toni should just be Toni. There is still an audience out there that'll support her so if she's true to her work, the people will recognize it and buy it if they wish. I bet you if she sang the way she did between 1992-1997, she'd be big again. Like Andyman91 said, just sing.
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Reply #15 posted 08/23/05 11:25am

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andyman91 said:

She's beautiful & talented, but she tries WAY too hard to be "what we want her to be." Not just musically, but with outfits that look ridiculous. She looks better in jeans & t-shirt than she has in any of her red carpet outfits.


I totally agree with that. She looks ridiculous when she's trying to look like the biggest ho in town.
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Reply #16 posted 08/23/05 11:27am

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SweetKreme said:

VinnyM27 said:



I agree that she needs really good material to stand out from the Ashanti's. I', sorry but the kid's don't want an old Ashanti...they don't even want Ashanti anymore! "Please" is nice but it is mumbled and sounds "He Wasn't Man Enough 2005" (actually, more like 2002, but who's counting on how dated it is).



I feel you! an old Ashanti falloff How true!


Y'all puttin' too much on it hammer

music Please music
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Reply #17 posted 08/23/05 11:42am

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CalhounSq said:

SweetKreme said:




I feel you! an old Ashanti falloff How true!


Y'all puttin' too much on it hammer

music Please music


That's our point Cal - We know Toni can sing her ass off - we know she's not talentless however, lately she's been slackin on her pimpin- and that's why her album isn't getting the play she wants it to or coming anywhere close to her previous efforts --- Ex: she sung(ok not sure if that's a word just skip it) a tribute to Gladys Knight on this years BET awards and the heavy breathy sexy voice and the slinky dress just didn't fit into a tribute song for Gladys in my opinion -- I just want her to SANG like she used to.
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SweetKreme said:

CalhounSq said:



Y'all puttin' too much on it hammer

music Please music


That's our point Cal - We know Toni can sing her ass off - we know she's not talentless however, lately she's been slackin on her pimpin- and that's why her album isn't getting the play she wants it to or coming anywhere close to her previous efforts --- Ex: she sung(ok not sure if that's a word just skip it) a tribute to Gladys Knight on this years BET awards and the heavy breathy sexy voice and the slinky dress just didn't fit into a tribute song for Gladys in my opinion -- I just want her to SANG like she used to.


My point is y'all trippin' lol razz I thought she sounded great on that show. Can't remember the outfit but I don't remember having a problem w/ it either. Whatever, I just hope she has good material on this new album smile
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SweetKreme said:

VinnyM27 said:



I agree that she needs really good material to stand out from the Ashanti's. I', sorry but the kid's don't want an old Ashanti...they don't even want Ashanti anymore! "Please" is nice but it is mumbled and sounds "He Wasn't Man Enough 2005" (actually, more like 2002, but who's counting on how dated it is).



I feel you! an old Ashanti falloff How true!


Well, Toni is a much better singer than Ashanti but she's getting subpar material...nothing that works for her. But the way the industry is run, people forget her "early" hits. They might not even know her for "He Wasn't Man Enough....". Considering she had one album do poorly and this single isn't racing up the charts, she's in trouble.
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andyman91 said:

Why doesn't she just sing? Does she think Luther Vandross would have stopped singing just because hip hop is more popular?

She's beautiful & talented, but she tries WAY too hard to be "what we want her to be." Not just musically, but with outfits that look ridiculous. She looks better in jeans & t-shirt than she has in any of her red carpet outfits.


His audience came back with "Take You Out". All it takes is a good amount of promotion. Luther diffently change and evolved as he went on...."Take You Out" sounds new but it's still true to what he does. Toni could learn a lesson.
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Reply #21 posted 08/23/05 12:23pm

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purplecam said:

andyman91 said:

She's beautiful & talented, but she tries WAY too hard to be "what we want her to be." Not just musically, but with outfits that look ridiculous. She looks better in jeans & t-shirt than she has in any of her red carpet outfits.


I totally agree with that. She looks ridiculous when she's trying to look like the biggest ho in town.


I thought her Grammy dress was hot. Didn't Kylie's white outfit from the "Can't Get You Out..." video came not to long after? I thought the media criticism over it ("Trying to be J. Lo...." was absurd and frankly racist.
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Reply #22 posted 08/23/05 12:31pm

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VinnyM27 said:

SweetKreme said:




I feel you! an old Ashanti falloff How true!


Well, Toni is a much better singer than Ashanti but she's getting subpar material...nothing that works for her. But the way the industry is run, people forget her "early" hits. They might not even know her for "He Wasn't Man Enough....". Considering she had one album do poorly and this single isn't racing up the charts, she's in trouble.


Of course, I agree, but the Ashanti analogy was too funny! evillol
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VinnyM27 said:

purplecam said:



I totally agree with that. She looks ridiculous when she's trying to look like the biggest ho in town.


I thought her Grammy dress was hot. Didn't Kylie's white outfit from the "Can't Get You Out..." video came not to long after? I thought the media criticism over it ("Trying to be J. Lo...." was absurd and frankly racist.

She's worn a lot of outfits that just made her look anything other than classy which I always saw her and her music as being. That Grammy dress just wasn't looking right no matter who wore it.
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Reply #24 posted 08/23/05 12:50pm

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purplecam said:

VinnyM27 said:



I thought her Grammy dress was hot. Didn't Kylie's white outfit from the "Can't Get You Out..." video came not to long after? I thought the media criticism over it ("Trying to be J. Lo...." was absurd and frankly racist.

She's worn a lot of outfits that just made her look anything other than classy which I always saw her and her music as being. That Grammy dress just wasn't looking right no matter who wore it.


J-Lo's dresses, over (or not much over) the top as they might be, have always fit her. Toni's dresses always look awkward.
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Reply #25 posted 08/23/05 2:04pm

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she shud just stick w/what she was doin and not repress her talent.
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Reply #26 posted 08/23/05 3:10pm

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andyman91 said:


She's beautiful & talented, but she tries WAY too hard to be "what we want her to be." Not just musically, but with outfits that look ridiculous. She looks better in jeans & t-shirt than she has in any of her red carpet outfits.

Ooh yes, you are telling the truth wave She's still fine, but damn Toni, stop trying to look 21.
Damn this kooky love affair....
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Reply #27 posted 08/23/05 3:58pm

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There is another HOT track that sounds very subtle and jungle
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http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemus
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Reply #28 posted 08/23/05 5:26pm

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She needs to hook up with Babyface and do what she does . I hate when people change for no reason . She sold records because of her style of music . Its time to take it back to her 1st two albums . People will buy it .
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Reply #29 posted 08/24/05 4:07am

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I love her first two albums.The songs produced by Babyface are all excellent ("Let It Flow","Breathe Again","Another Sad Love Song","There's No Me Without You","Love Shoulda Brought You Home,"etc).Back then,she was a classy vocalist singing mature,well-written songs for an adult audience.But then she started dressing like a hoochie mama and working with producers like Rodney Jerkins,trying to appeal to a younger crowd.Her last CD even featured some hip-hop sounds! It's not the Toni Braxton I wanna hear.

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