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AGREED. He needs something. He's all messed up sexualy...and needs to work out those issues. Why do you think? Have you ever been personally involved with him to judge that? oh come on guys. Leave the poor guy alone. If there´s something that might be driving him crazy and getting him in need for therapy than it´s the world´s view of him. I am sorry, but judging just from his own words and actions than I must say that for example the Geraldo interview showed to me only sane and inteligent person. I see more desperation in any Mariah interview for example than in MJ´s interviews. There are other ppl who need help in my eyes. I for example once saw Gery (ex-Spice girl) interview where she was crying MOST of the time and I couldn´t even figure out what the hell was HER problem. I still think he´s handling it very well. I sure would be in lunatic asylum already after being only through half of the shit he´s been through. call me fanatic...whatever.... let us all worry about our own lives, ok? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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This is disgusting. They basically threw a bunch of dates and crimes at the guy, and ran with those he couldn't immediately prove to be blatantly false 
Michael Jackson's lawyer continues
http://www.fox41.com/news...137§ion=2 Inconsistent statements by Michael Jackson's accuser will be topic number one at the singer's trial Wednesday. The defense is using its cross-examination of Sheriff's Sergeant Steve Robel to let the jury hear about the changing stories the accuser and his brother and sister told investigators. Among key inconsistencies are those involving the accuser's versions of when the alleged molestations took place. He initially told detectives he was molested "about five times." That changed when investigators established Jackson wasn't always at his ranch during those times. Pressed by Jackson's lawyer, the boy indicated he was molested twice and said both times were after he had defended Jackson on a videotape and to social workers. The defense is suggesting Jackson would never have molested the boy at the very time the singer's conduct was under examination. Copyright (2005) Associated Press. "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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This is disgusting. They basically threw a bunch of dates and crimes at the guy, and ran with those he couldn't immediately prove to be blatantly false
Mj doesn´t need therapy. He needs to be left alone. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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sosgemini said: ...there are no rules regarding these mj threads...
What's your favourite MJ song? Mine's Pretty Young Thing!  | |
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this topic is so much more interesting when we just debate about the court news dont ya think!!
Watch your back mike!!  | |
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Few interesting court transcripts from www.mjjsource.com
MR. MESEREAU: When you were at the Calabasas Inn, was there a phone in your room? ACCUSER: I'm pretty sure there was. MR. MESEREAU: Did you ever see anybody call the police? ACCUSER: No. MR. MESEREAU: When you were shopping near the Calabasas Inn, to your knowledge, did anyone ever scream "help"? ACCUSER: No, I don't think so. MR. MESEREAU: Ever see your mother do it? ACCUSER: No. MR. MESEREAU: Ever see Star do it? ACCUSER: No. MR. MESEREAU: Ever see your sister do it? ACCUSER: No. MR. MESEREAU: You didn't do it either, correct? ACCUSER: No. MR. MESEREAU: After you escaped from Neverland the first time, where did you go? ACCUSER: I think we went to my grandmother's house. MR. MESEREAU: To your knowledge, did anybody call the police and say, "We've been" -- ACCUSER: No, because the thing was, like I -- MR. MESEREAU: Let me just finish my question. ACCUSER: Okay. MR. MESEREAU: After you say you escaped from Neverland the first time, you went to your grandparents', correct? ACCUSER: Yes. MR. MESEREAU: And how did you get there? ACCUSER: Jesus Salas drove us there. MR. MESEREAU: Do you recall anyone ever calling the police and saying, "We've just been held against our will"? ACCUSER: No. Because like I -- my mom was -- MR. MESEREAU: Let me just ask you the questions. Okay? Nobody did, right? ACCUSER: No. MR. MESEREAU: A few days later, you went back to Neverland, right? ACCUSER: I believe -- yes. Right, so they were held against their will and yet they come back. 
MR. MESEREAU: Until you realized you were not going to be part of Michael Jackson's family, you never made any allegation of child molestation, correct? ACCUSER: I didn't want to be part of his family. I just saw him as a father figure. MR. MESEREAU: Until you realized Michael Jackson was not going to meet you in Brazil, you never made any allegation of child molestation, right? ACCUSER: I didn't even really want to go to Brazil. MR. MESEREAU: Until you left Neverland for the last time, you never made any allegation of child molestation, correct? ACCUSER: I didn't tell anyone until I left for the last time, correct. MR. MESEREAU: And never called the police until after you'd seen two lawyers, right? MR. SNEDDON: Object as argumentative, Your Honor. THE COURT: Overruled. THE WITNESS: Yes, it wasn't until I saw two lawyers until I told the police what really happened. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Now he lets his staff wash the boy's undergarment and that's illegal, too?  | |
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doctormcmeekle said: sosgemini said: ...there are no rules regarding these mj threads...
What's your favourite MJ song? Mine's Pretty Young Thing! Who is it, lol alright whats your favourite MJ suit - Smooth Criminal 
also i keep hearing the same news for nealry 3 years now that MJ is or going to be BROKE BANKURPT in the RED, but how much truth is it? [Edited 3/16/05 5:30am] | |
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dag said: AGREED. He needs something. He's all messed up sexualy...and needs to work out those issues. Why do you think? Have you ever been personally involved with him to judge that? oh come on guys. Leave the poor guy alone. If there´s something that might be driving him crazy and getting him in need for therapy than it´s the world´s view of him. I am sorry, but judging just from his own words and actions than I must say that for example the Geraldo interview showed to me only sane and inteligent person. I see more desperation in any Mariah interview for example than in MJ´s interviews. There are other ppl who need help in my eyes. I for example once saw Gery (ex-Spice girl) interview where she was crying MOST of the time and I couldn´t even figure out what the hell was HER problem. I still think he´s handling it very well. I sure would be in lunatic asylum already after being only through half of the shit he´s been through. call me fanatic...whatever.... let us all worry about our own lives, ok? OK, So Mike is a happy healthy normal human with no issues what-so-ever. 
Are we all so blind that we can't see the boy needs a little help...maybe just a little? I mean come on. I don't think he's insane or anything...more eccentric probably than anything else. But there is clearly some sort of Adult regression going on, where he is like a 10 yr old. And for someone who is 46 and has 3 kids he takes care of himself, he needs to start acting his age for once. I will try to keep the MJ mental issues to a minimum. However please don't smack me if I stray.  | |
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doctormcmeekle said: sosgemini said: ...there are no rules regarding these mj threads...
What's your favourite MJ song? Mine's Pretty Young Thing! OK Dr. McBeast I'll keep on topic if you will. | |
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dag said: THE WITNESS: Yes, it wasn't until I saw two lawyers until I told the police what really happened.[/i]
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ThaCat said: this topic is so much more interesting when we just debate about the court news dont ya think!!
Watch your back mike!! yes it is..but we are not going to police people because they want to mention mike's childhood or his mental state in its relation to mj's current situation... we would be snipping comments for days... Space for sale... | |
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Mikes got far better representation then Gavin. Sneddon is a twat. Sneddon better get Jordy on the stand..... | |
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thesexofit said: Sneddon is a twat
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thesexofit said: Mikes got far better representation then Gavin. Sneddon is a twat. Sneddon better get Jordy on the stand.....
Might not be a good idea... If im not mistaken Gavin Mentioned Jordy's name during the Katz interview... Which is not a good thing... means he knew about the prior allegations and has intent to make conspiracy | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: thesexofit said: Mikes got far better representation then Gavin. Sneddon is a twat. Sneddon better get Jordy on the stand.....
Might not be a good idea... If im not mistaken Gavin Mentioned Jordy's name during the Katz interview... Which is not a good thing... means he knew about the prior allegations and has intent to make conspiracy You mean... http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/03150...kson_katz1.html
Doctor who interviewed accuser says Jackson no pedophile; tells cops teenager invoked name of boy who brought 1993 molestation charges | |
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BTW...does anyone know if the family is seeking any monetary value for this or from MJ? Would MJ counter with all that he has given them so far?
Or is this going to go to a civil case (i.e. OJ) and that is where they can seek punitive damages? Or does this end with him going to jail or not going to jail. I recall the family are not the plaintiffs that the State is. Does anyone know what the deal is...and what the family stands to gain in all of this? Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: BTW...does anyone know if the family is seeking any monetary value for this or from MJ? Would MJ counter with all that he has given them so far?
A civil suit was filed the day the charges where sent...
Or is this going to go to a civil case (i.e. OJ) and that is where they can seek punitive damages? Or does this end with him going to jail or not going to jail. I recall the family are not the plaintiffs that the State is. Does anyone know what the deal is...and what the family stands to gain in all of this? if they win the case... they could recieve at least 5 million in punitive damages... depending on what their demands are tec... Gavin Claimed he didn't know about the civil suit... mmm Attorney Mess trapped with that because he has the filing documents to the civil suit If jackson wins he can counter sue for mental traauma etc... He could also sue some british tabloids for slander etc... | |
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why am i addicated to these threads..
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BlueNote said:[quote] Luv4oneanotha said: You mean... http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/03150...kson_katz1.html
Doctor who interviewed accuser says Jackson no pedophile; tells cops teenager invoked name of boy who brought 1993 molestation charges yup that and the lawyer saying that Jackson isn't categorically a pedophile... is bad news... Real Bad news... especially when he goes on the stand... Plus the Jordy Name dropping... Ooooh thats real bad | |
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Good question. I guess the mother was planning on releasing a book called 'My son, the soap and the King'. But things change... | |
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http://www.mjj2005.com/ko...topic=4023
Full, unedited court transcripts. The 14th is very interesting. They're pretty lengthy, but nothing is missed at all. A few folks on here might benefit from knowing EVERYTHING that's been happening in court, not just what the press only decide to let us know. |
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Interesting article from the NY Daily News Re: a thorn in MJ's side.
http://www.nydailynews.co...8431c.html Does Court TV reporter Diane Dimond owe Tom Sneddon big time? Yesterday, I learned that the Santa Barbara district attorney - whose prosecution of Michael Jackson is Dimond's beat - played a key role in killing a slander suit that Jackson filed against her a decade ago. In 1995, when Dimond was working for "Hard Copy," she reported that Sneddon was searching for an explicit 27-minute videotape showing Jackson molesting a boy. Sneddon soon concluded that no such video existed, but not before Dimond appeared on L.A.'s KABC radio and her Paramount-produced tabloid show to trumpet the imagined X-rated details. "It was taken right before Christmas, as the story goes, and it was recorded by one of Michael Jackson's own security cameras," Dimond said on the radio, touting her "Hard Copy" scoop. "Truly explicit," she added, noting that she had not seen the alleged tape. Sneddon, in an unusual instance of a prosecutor involving himself in a civil suit, signed a declaration supporting Dimond's version of events. The trial judge dismissed the suit, saying Jackson couldn't prove malice or false reporting. Jackson appealed the judge's ruling, and Sneddon's declaration was cited extensively in the November 1998 California Court of Appeal's decision affirming the summary judgment. Neither Jackson's lawsuit nor Sneddon's role in snuffing it is disclosed in Dimond's official bio on the CourtTV.com Web site or in the detailed history of her Jackson coverage, which includes her exclusive November 2003 interview with Sneddon. "The lawsuit was a public event, and it need not be disclosed every time Diane reports on Jackson, nor will it be," Court TV officials said in a statement yesterday. Doesn't Dimond have a conflict of interest? "Court TV does have a conflict-of-interest policy, and neither Diane's reports on Jackson nor the fact that Mr. Sneddon submitted an affidavit supporting the defense of a lawsuit 10 years ago is even close to any kind of conflict of interest - at Court TV or any other news organization," the statement insisted. "For Diane Dimond to cease reporting on Jackson because he sued her would mean that he had intimidated her from reporting on his activities." I guess I'll leave it to the court of public opinion.  |
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I said we needed to wait for the evidence to be introduced. So it is being introduced now, and I see this trial progressing further and further into the realm of reasonable doubt. Barring other evidence, or a surprise, I think MJ's fans and friends should prepare to advise him to take the following steps.
1. Stay. 2. Away. 3. From. 4. Them. 5. Boys. 6. Forever. 7. Repeat steps 1-6 every day. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Marrk said: Interesting article from the NY Daily News Re: a thorn in MJ's side.
http://www.nydailynews.co...8431c.html Does Court TV reporter Diane Dimond owe Tom Sneddon big time? Yesterday, I learned that the Santa Barbara district attorney - whose prosecution of Michael Jackson is Dimond's beat - played a key role in killing a slander suit that Jackson filed against her a decade ago. In 1995, when Dimond was working for "Hard Copy," she reported that Sneddon was searching for an explicit 27-minute videotape showing Jackson molesting a boy. Sneddon soon concluded that no such video existed, but not before Dimond appeared on L.A.'s KABC radio and her Paramount-produced tabloid show to trumpet the imagined X-rated details. "It was taken right before Christmas, as the story goes, and it was recorded by one of Michael Jackson's own security cameras," Dimond said on the radio, touting her "Hard Copy" scoop. "Truly explicit," she added, noting that she had not seen the alleged tape. Sneddon, in an unusual instance of a prosecutor involving himself in a civil suit, signed a declaration supporting Dimond's version of events. The trial judge dismissed the suit, saying Jackson couldn't prove malice or false reporting. Jackson appealed the judge's ruling, and Sneddon's declaration was cited extensively in the November 1998 California Court of Appeal's decision affirming the summary judgment. Neither Jackson's lawsuit nor Sneddon's role in snuffing it is disclosed in Dimond's official bio on the CourtTV.com Web site or in the detailed history of her Jackson coverage, which includes her exclusive November 2003 interview with Sneddon. "The lawsuit was a public event, and it need not be disclosed every time Diane reports on Jackson, nor will it be," Court TV officials said in a statement yesterday. Doesn't Dimond have a conflict of interest? "Court TV does have a conflict-of-interest policy, and neither Diane's reports on Jackson nor the fact that Mr. Sneddon submitted an affidavit supporting the defense of a lawsuit 10 years ago is even close to any kind of conflict of interest - at Court TV or any other news organization," the statement insisted. "For Diane Dimond to cease reporting on Jackson because he sued her would mean that he had intimidated her from reporting on his activities." I guess I'll leave it to the court of public opinion. Ahh the imfamous Victor Guiterez Video tape, i remember when that happened... that was the most rediculous thing that has ever happened! But i did not know about this... This shows hints that Sneddon is pursuing Jackson, and has been pursuing him for years! Saving the azz of a tabloid reporter was small potatoes! Dimond has a habit of report rediculous stories! i believe she needs to be sued with slander so she could learn her lesson. At the begginning of this investigation she reported the Love Letters! which came out false.. Sadly she's lucky you can't sue Admist an investigation! She's a sloppy reporter, with i mean no credibility! if your looking for a good tablooid reporter she's number one! Tabloid Junkiies! | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: Tabloid Junkiies! and you’re not a mj fan. | |
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Marrk said: Interesting article from the NY Daily News Re: a thorn in MJ's side.
http://www.nydailynews.co...8431c.html Does Court TV reporter Diane Dimond owe Tom Sneddon big time? Yesterday, I learned that the Santa Barbara district attorney - whose prosecution of Michael Jackson is Dimond's beat - played a key role in killing a slander suit that Jackson filed against her a decade ago. In 1995, when Dimond was working for "Hard Copy," she reported that Sneddon was searching for an explicit 27-minute videotape showing Jackson molesting a boy. Sneddon soon concluded that no such video existed, but not before Dimond appeared on L.A.'s KABC radio and her Paramount-produced tabloid show to trumpet the imagined X-rated details. "It was taken right before Christmas, as the story goes, and it was recorded by one of Michael Jackson's own security cameras," Dimond said on the radio, touting her "Hard Copy" scoop. "Truly explicit," she added, noting that she had not seen the alleged tape. Sneddon, in an unusual instance of a prosecutor involving himself in a civil suit, signed a declaration supporting Dimond's version of events. The trial judge dismissed the suit, saying Jackson couldn't prove malice or false reporting. Jackson appealed the judge's ruling, and Sneddon's declaration was cited extensively in the November 1998 California Court of Appeal's decision affirming the summary judgment. Neither Jackson's lawsuit nor Sneddon's role in snuffing it is disclosed in Dimond's official bio on the CourtTV.com Web site or in the detailed history of her Jackson coverage, which includes her exclusive November 2003 interview with Sneddon. "The lawsuit was a public event, and it need not be disclosed every time Diane reports on Jackson, nor will it be," Court TV officials said in a statement yesterday. Doesn't Dimond have a conflict of interest? "Court TV does have a conflict-of-interest policy, and neither Diane's reports on Jackson nor the fact that Mr. Sneddon submitted an affidavit supporting the defense of a lawsuit 10 years ago is even close to any kind of conflict of interest - at Court TV or any other news organization," the statement insisted. "For Diane Dimond to cease reporting on Jackson because he sued her would mean that he had intimidated her from reporting on his activities." I guess I'll leave it to the court of public opinion. Diane Dimond is a snot whore.  | |
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TwinkleBitch said: dreamfactory313 said: Continuing from the last MJ court thread..
I think MJ needs therapy. Any 46 year old man who is this enchanted with childhood NEEDS HELP! I dont think that he will be found guilty but he still needs help. He'll be better off for having gotten help. That or maybe befriend that guy in Tampa who thinks he's peter pan. lol. Perhaps. | |
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