Brawl erupts during Vibe awards taping
Person reportedly stabbed in fight involving Dr. DreThe Associated Press
Updated: 4:02 a.m. ET Nov. 16, 2004SANTA MONICA, Calif.


- A fight broke out near the stage at the Vibe awards ceremony as rapper Snoop Dogg and producer Quincy Jones were preparing to honor Dr. Dre., and one person was stabbed, authorities and witnesses said.


Dozens of people sitting near the stage Monday inside a hangar at the Santa Monica Municipal Airport began shoving each other as the show wound down about 7:30 p.m., a photographer who covered the event for The Associated Press said.

News video showed chairs being thrown, punches flying, people chasing one another and some being restrained.

It was unclear if the stabbing preceded or followed the fight. The victim, a 26-year-old man, was taken to a hospital and was listed in stable condition.

No arrests were made.

Witness Frank Williams told KCAL-TV that Dr. Dre was involved in the brawl.

“I saw Dr. Dre fighting somebody,” Williams said. “I don’t know if he was fighting back. But there was a guy taken out basically bloodied.”

Andrea Ferguson, employed by a public relations firm that worked with Vibe for the awards ceremony, called the incident a “disruption” but declined to provide details. She added the show was allowed to continue but it was halted for about five minutes.

Dr. Dre, who was scheduled to receive a Vibe Legend Award for his lifetime contributions to hip-hop, had not come on stage yet when the fight erupted. Jones and Snoop Dogg stood on stage without saying anything.

“My understanding is that it was somewhat chaotic in there,” police Lt. Frank Fabrega said in a press conference following the fight.

About 1,000 people attended the event; some scurried for the exits when the melee began.

“It’s really important that we don’t take a negative incident like this and do away with the awards,” Suge Knight told reporters.

The show was taped Monday and was expected to be broadcast Tuesday. R&B singer Usher led the awards with five nominations, followed by Alicia Keys, who has four nominations.

Vibe magazine focuses on urban culture and entertainment. The awards are voted on by music journalists and “regional tastemakers.”




Is Suge serious?


I'm so sick of this shit happening its unbelievable. Just stupid, iggnant shit..

Here's a long video which shows chairs being thrown, actual fist fights, a small brawl with over 15 men, Quincy Jones visibly saddened and upset by the actions, the perpetrators driving off in SUVs, LL Cool J and Tyra Banks reassembling the show.

http://tv.reuters.com/ifr....925914558

Look under the "Entertainment" section and click on "Hip Hop's latest Black Mark: Violence At Vibe Awards."

Billboard magazine reports that Alicia Keys was one of the people who ran for the exits when the fight broke out.

http://www.billboard.com/...1000720619

sextonseven said:

She's a smart girl. I would've done the same thing! If I hear gun shots or see a fight break out I start running like Jackie Joyner-Kersee.

Young Buck Faces Arrest

G-Unit rapper implicated in Vibe Awards stabbing

Police have issued a warrant for G-Unit's Young Buck in connection with the Monday night stabbing at the Vibe Awards, held in a Santa Monica, California, airport hangar. Twenty-six-year-old Jimmy James Johnson, the man who instigated a sizeable brawl by throwing a punch at Dr. Dre, suffered a serious stab wound to the upper body and is currently in stable condition at a local hospital.

"A video of the incident revealed that three males were in the immediate area of this melee and were seen to be holding knives," reads a statement from the Santa Monica police. "One of these individuals was identified as rap entertainer David Darnell Brown, a.k.a. 'Young Buck.' Brown is seen with a knife in hand and attempting to reach Johnson. At one point, Brown is seen lunging over another male and swinging the knife at Johnson's upper body while Johnson is looking away from him. Brown is clearly depicted as holding the knife after the assault and is one of a number of fight participants who is pepper sprayed by officers attempting to stop the unlawful assaults."

Young Buck's record includes several arrests in his hometown of Nashville. He is currently accused of assault with a deadly weapon and police are asking him to turn himself in.

Police say the brawl began when Johnson approached Dre under the pretense of asking for an autograph and then punched him. Johnson was stabbed after being subdued by Dre's bodyguards and other men quickly joined the fracas, which delayed the taping of the show for five minutes.

Young Buck's G-Unit collective (which also features 50 Cent and Lloyd Banks) won Best Group at the awards. In August, the rapper released his own debut album, Straight Outta Cashville, which debuted at Number Three.

COLIN DEVENISH
(Posted Nov 17, 2004)

Source: http://www.rollingstone.c......er=true

Rappers...always taking themselves way too seriously.

man this makes us look reeeeeal bad..like heav' said back in tha day "i prove em wrong but right is what u provin em" man when we gonna get together and act like civilized people. i always said im not to proud of Hip hop right now, im actually embarrassed to be a part of Hip hop culture.

TheRealFiness said:

I'm embarrassed for you.

"And the award for most violent rap group goes to..."
--the Simpsons

It's so sad to see people who have the chance to elevate their lives to a place that most people (black or white) never get to and jeopardize it on petty shit.

Fucking idiots.

It's so surreal to me. I mean a ceremony dedicated to the arts... it's supposed to be civilized as hell (to the point of being boring), then Dr. Dre (whom everyone in hiphop should have the utmost respect for, for what he brought to the genre) gets attacked?!

One part of me is like, this would never happen at MTV awards, on the other hand, who even expects behavior like that?

I think it's a shame, whoever instigated that. But don't let it reflect on Quincy Jones, or Snoop for that matter.

CinisterCee said:

Oh yes it would. If it happened at Woodstock, then it can happen at an Mtv function, too.

kiss85 said:

Altamont?

CinisterCee said:

Exactly.

kiss85 said:

Dre's security is the Hell's Angels? kiss85 you might be onto something either that or the G Unit are really reppin' the Angels (Young Buck bein a suspect n'all)

On another note: Anyone who punches Dr. Dre is lucky to get away with only a stab wound.

Just out of curiosity, why did Dre get punched? Was there some kind of beef between the two men?

I wasn't even suprised by this.

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

ditto. hell, this shit's commonplace now and it's just sad.

LOL they're still fat & rich when they go back home,,,why the fuck should I care? Those HIGH SCHOOL heffas could rot in hell for all I care.

People are always looking for a reason to pigeonhole hip hop or urban music, so things like a melee at a urban music awards gathering justifies peoples dislike for hip hop and rap music. I'm not trying to downplay the actions of the perpetrators because they were definitely wrong and should be punished for their actions, but its not uncommon for bad apples to spoil musical events in any genre.

Let's not forget that rock concerts have also gotten out of control. People have been trampled at shows (and killed), mosh pits escalate into bloody brawls, AND LET'S NOT FORGET WOODSTOCK '99 WHERE THOUSANDS OF ANGST-RIDDENED SUBURBAN WHITE BOYS STARTED A RIOT -- RAPING GIRLS, LOOTING MERCHANTS, SETTING FIRE TO THE VENUE -- WHICH EVENTUALLY LED TO THE TARNISHED IMAGE OF THE WOODSTOCK NAME. Is that a reflection of rock music? Do we unfairly criticize them collectively? No. We tend to forget these things and unfairly come down hard on urban music functions.






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Fleshofmyflesh said:

My sentiments exactly.

This is all true, however, at concerts like Woodstock '99 and Altamont, the artists weren't the ones stabbing people. If I remember correctly, many of the acts performing at Woodstock attempted to stop the riots. If Flea had jumped in the pit and looted merchants or started fires, I might feel differently. At the Vibe show, however, an artist decided to take the role of security guard upon himself. Had you mentioned Axl Rose jumping on a fan, I might agree more with you.

I'm not trying to downplay the disgusting behavior that occured at these concerts, believe me. However, there is a difference between groupthink in a mosh pit and a stabbing at an awards show.

JANFAN4L said:

Axchi696 said:

okay well what about the things that courtney love did? she hit a fan with a microphone and she's just seen as a poor drugged out bad girl. i don't think there's no way to slice and dice both situations because the perpetrators are regular fans as opposed to being celebs. the degree of status doesn't reduce the severity of raping a woman or stabbing a person. the image of hip hop tends to carry that image despite the fact that it happens in other genres of music. and i think its stupid that this situation had to happen. it doen't make sense for grown who claim they had to fight the streets to get out of it only to continue to behave as if they have to still live this way.

double post
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I'm not disagreeing with you, I just thought the examples that she selected weren't that similar.

I think the reason that some people find it hard to make a distinction between rap and violence is the lifestyle that some of these rappers advocate in their lyrics (50 Cent and Young Buck for example) really isn't all an act. When you stab somebody at a show set up to honor the best music of the year, you really haven't gotten out of the street-tough mentality.

This should be somewhat frightening to parents (of any race) because their children look up to these people with money and power and see their behavior as proper.

Many people in the rock community were outraged at Woodstock '99, and I've heard many times that it tarnished the Woodstock name.

It's the same exact thing with Courtney Love, Axl Rose, etc... Believe me, you aren't going to find many people with the mindset that Courtney is just "a poor drugged out bad girl".

heybaby said:

Axchi696 said:

Regardless of whether they be artists or fans, it's violence nonetheless. There have been many rock artists that have attacked or spit on their fans, throw things in the audience in retailation (some even live feces) and it's either downplayed or seen as "that's just good ol' rock-n-roll."

With hip hop, people disproportionately conflate the music with random acts of violence -- and that's unjust. The same isn't true for rock music events in the eyes of the public and that bothers me.

JANFAN4L said:

exactly

Fleshofmyflesh said:

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Stop being an ass !!!. Your embarrassed because someone pointed out that "rappers are provin every sterotype that is out there to be true. Anybody who is proud of this Hip-Hop moment black or white needs to have their head examined or is as ignorant as the rappers in involved in the brawl.
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