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Thread started 07/07/04 5:32pm

theAudience

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BUILD-A-BAND

Here's the deal.
Create a band using musicians dead or alive.
A brief explanation for your choice(s).
To further complicate the issue, you cannot choose 2 players from the same group.
(i.e. Garibaldi/Prestia or Lennon/McCartney)

Too much to ask?
"Just float your little mind around."
~Jimi Hendrix

Jimi Hendrix - Guitar
Miles Davis - Trumpet
Jaco Pastorius - Bass
John Blackwell - Drums
David Sancious - Keys


A potential Hendrix/Davis connection is something i've have wondered about for years.
IMO, this quintet should have all the composition, improvisation, stretch, funk, fusion and freak factors anyone might ask for. Due to the level of musicianship, they should be able to play together without getting in each other's way. David could also double on guitar. The power and finesse of Blackwell teamed with a groovin melodic Jaco is just scary. Add the colors of Jimi's guitar and David's keys. Top it all off with that lyrical and haunting Davis horn. DAMN!.
touched

Put together as many bands as you want.

tA

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Reply #1 posted 07/07/04 8:52pm

Supernova

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John Bonham - drums
Bernard Edwards - bass
Jeff Beck - guitar
Bernie Worrell - piano/keys
Sonny Rollins - sax


Playing with each other without getting in their way. I'm glad you said that, it's important for the music to breath. I think these folks are sensitive enough to know how to do that together. On first glance some people who aren't necessarily familiar with them beyond their popular, uptempo material might think otherwise. But these guys can be equally subtle when the music calls for it - like any great musician.

For Zeppelin neophytes check out songs like "The Rain Song," "I Can't Quit You Babe," (from their debut, the version on Coda is different) "Poor Tom" and "No Quarter"...Bonham had the type of touch that few hard rock drummers of his rep do. Plus, the guy could just flat out SWING harder than any other rock drummer I've heard. Did more with one bass drum than anybody I ever heard with two.

Bernie Worrell is classically trained pianist who was key (no pun intended) to Parliament's evolution, and was as important as George Clinton (damn straight I said it!) in the world's most recognizable Funk band. He and Stevie Wonder are professors of Funk Keyboards 101.

Jeff Beck is a name that rarely comes up here on the Org, but I feel he's no less important a figure in the evolution of electric guitar playing than a lot of the popular names that come up here all the time. And I don't have as much Beck material as I should have...

Although Miles Davis is my all time favorite jazz musician, saxophone is my favorite horn. Sonny Rollins can either blow the saxophone colossus or make it reek of sex. Plus, his mohawk wearing days would look good in this group. biggrin

Bass players are generally in the least "glamorous" position in bands, but that's not due to them being not as important, they're every bit as important as every other instrumentalist. Bernard Edwards was one of the most important bassists ever, period. No easy feat for a guy who was co-founder of a so-called, disco stigmatized group. Just playing chops alone, he could hang with anybody.


Then there's another group:

Steve Gadd - drums
Jaco Pastorius - bass
Curtis Mayfield - guitar
Herbie Hancock - piano/keys
John Coltrane - sax

Gadd's resume is impressive by anybody's standards. One of the most creative drummers alive. Like James Jamerson before him, Jaco changed the world. Mayfield, one of the most intoxicating uses of the wah wah pedal I've ever heard. An obvious influence on Jimi too.

Herbie - he's not a jazz purist and that's on the part of his appeal to me. He's open to anything that sounds good to him, from Nirvana to Jimi, to Stevie. And any jazz cat that can lay it on as thick and heavy as he did with the Headhunters album is alright with me.

Trane...like Rollins, he can make it reek of sex, or he can give us sheets of sound. When they die so early in their careers it makes you wonder how their music would have developed.

I think all of 'em are team players who could complement one another.


*I'd like to hear what Jimi could have done with certain groups, but since you already picked him I didn't want to be redundant. There are various combinations of musicians I could create, but those are the first two off the top of my head.
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Reply #2 posted 07/08/04 1:12am

theAudience

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Supernova said:

*I'd like to hear what Jimi could have done with certain groups, but since you already picked him I didn't want to be redundant. There are various combinations of musicians I could create, but those are the first two off the top of my head.

Stellar. I'm feeling your picks. clapping

In your 1st band, on paper, Bonzo might look out of place but your explanation makes perfect sense. Beck is one of my top 5 rock guitarist. The stuff he did with Stevie shows another side of his playing. If you can stand it, consider the Beckology 3 disc box set. It covers him from the Yardbirds through the his Guitar Shop release.

I like your placement of Curtis Mayfield in the 2nd band. Anyone that pays attention to Jimi's rhythm playing on the pretty material (Castles Made of Sand, Little Wing, etc.) is hearing a whole lot of Mayfield. Herbie would have normally been my 1st choice on keys but I couldn't break the 2-player rule.

Music that breathes...ain't that the truth.
Miles was probably the ultimate teacher of that simple but often ignored fact.
You gotta use the spaces.

*Hey, redundancy is not an issue.
Use who you want, where you want, as many times as you want.

"You get the right guys to play the right things at the right time and you get a motherfucker. . ."
~Miles Davis

tA

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Reply #3 posted 07/08/04 8:40am

blackguitarist
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Hendrix-Lead guitar
Roger Troutman-rythmn guitar
James Jamerson-Bass
John Bonham-drums
Bernie Worrell-Keyboards
Billy Beck-keyboards
Miles-trumpet
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
nammie "What BGZ says I believe. I have the biggest crush on him."
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Reply #4 posted 07/08/04 8:42am

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blackguitaristz said:

Hendrix-Lead guitar
Roger Troutman-rythmn guitar
James Jamerson-Bass
John Bonham-drums
Bernie Worrell-Keyboards
Billy Beck-keyboards
Miles-trumpet

sorry/rhythmn
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
nammie "What BGZ says I believe. I have the biggest crush on him."
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Reply #5 posted 07/08/04 9:03am

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Second band
Jimi-Lead axe
Jimmy Nolen- rhythmn guitar
Bootsy-bass
James "Diamond" Williams-keys
Herbie Hancock-keys
Walter "Junie" Morrison- keys
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
nammie "What BGZ says I believe. I have the biggest crush on him."
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Reply #6 posted 07/08/04 10:26am

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James "Diamond" Williams-drums
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
nammie "What BGZ says I believe. I have the biggest crush on him."
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Reply #7 posted 07/08/04 10:35am

Slave2daGroove

Curtis Mayfield - guitar
Flea - Bass
James Brown - vocals
Benny Benjamin - drums
Jimmy Smith - piano/organ


Do I really need an explanation? - edit
[This message was edited Thu Jul 8 10:38:11 2004 by Slave2daGroove]
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Reply #8 posted 07/08/04 11:58am

otan

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Keith Richards: Guitar
Mick Jagger: Vocals
Mick Taylor: Guitar
Bootsy Collins: Bass
Charlie Watts: Drums

I have a cold today. Or else you would be going, "daaamn. good idea" whereas this is just a head scratcher.
The Last Otan Track: www.funkmusician.com/what.mp3
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Reply #9 posted 07/08/04 12:26pm

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Ashamed of you 'so called Prince fans' for not mentioning the pint sized wonder, in any of the supergroups. He is the great showman.

Prince--Guitar, keys, vocals.

Flea--Bass

Keith Richards--Rythem Guitar

Steve Gadd--Drums worship

Herbie Hancock--piano, synths

Keith Emerson--Synths

Rosie Gaines--lead and backing vocals.

Sheila E--percussion, background vocals.

Branford Marsalis--Sax

Don Cherry--Trumpet

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Now this is the great group, all players who could easily keep up with Prince's speed. Richard's is the great rythem guitarist of all time. This band would just kill
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #10 posted 07/08/04 12:55pm

kisscamille

Carlos Santana - lead guitar
Bootsy Collins - bass
Keith Richards - rythym guitar
Neil Peart - Drums
Chet Baker - Trumpet
Elton John - Piano
Freddy Mercury - lead vocals
Prince - Whatever wink
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Reply #11 posted 07/08/04 1:13pm

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Sorry Otan, 2f4c and possibly blackquitarist (gotta get a ruling from the judges as to whether Bootsy and J.Nolen played with JB simultaneously) but i've gotta give you the disqualification BUZZER for an infraction:

"...you cannot choose 2 players from the same group"

Nice bands though. nod

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Reply #12 posted 07/08/04 1:16pm

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I got the best group! bawl
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #13 posted 07/08/04 1:22pm

theAudience

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2freaky4church1 said:

I got the best group! bawl

C'mon now.
Like Chrissie Hynde said "Stop Your Sobbing" and get on with Take Two. lol

tA

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Reply #14 posted 07/08/04 1:54pm

psykosoul

hmph! I refuse to participate. My band has like 75 people in it and you're gonna disqualify somebody on a technicality. hrmph
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Reply #15 posted 07/08/04 1:59pm

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Unless you want your band to be paid with food stamps.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #16 posted 07/08/04 2:05pm

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psykosoul said:

hmph! I refuse to participate. My band has like 75 people in it and you're gonna disqualify somebody on a technicality. hrmph

Would you like some cheese with your whine?

"I'm sorry baby, that's the rules."
~Prince (as "your conscience, mf")

75 people? Who are you MC Hammer or somebody? disbelief
(you know he went bankrupt)

GET ON WITH IT! evillol

tA

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Reply #17 posted 07/08/04 4:44pm

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theAudience said:

Supernova said:

*I'd like to hear what Jimi could have done with certain groups, but since you already picked him I didn't want to be redundant. There are various combinations of musicians I could create, but those are the first two off the top of my head.

Stellar. I'm feeling your picks. clapping

In your 1st band, on paper, Bonzo might look out of place but your explanation makes perfect sense. Beck is one of my top 5 rock guitarist. The stuff he did with Stevie shows another side of his playing. If you can stand it, consider the Beckology 3 disc box set. It covers him from the Yardbirds through the his Guitar Shop release.

Thanks. I always forget that Beck even has a box set on the market, for some reason.

"You get the right guys to play the right things at the right time and you get a motherfucker. . ."
~Miles Davis

A great quote. Miles was full of great quotes. biggrin

I gotta figure out some more bands...with vocals this time.
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Reply #18 posted 07/08/04 4:45pm

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psykosoul said:

hmph! I refuse to participate. My band has like 75 people in it and you're gonna disqualify somebody on a technicality. hrmph

Break 'em up and assemble a ganga bands with all of 'em.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #19 posted 07/08/04 5:00pm

psykosoul

Supernova said:

psykosoul said:

hmph! I refuse to participate. My band has like 75 people in it and you're gonna disqualify somebody on a technicality. hrmph

Break 'em up and assemble a ganga bands with all of 'em.


I'll be fair and pick a few folks like everybody else hrmph

Trumpet: Roy Hargrove
Saxophone: Joshua Redman
Drums: ?uestlove
Bass: Meshell Ndegeocello
Guitar: Charlie Hunter
Rhodes: D'Angelo

This would be the perfect album for me in terms of neo-soul/hip-hop/jazz thing that Roy Hargrove did with RH Factor. There weren't enough solos on it for me. I think these folks could've pulled the entire album off if it were solely instrumental.
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Reply #20 posted 07/09/04 4:42pm

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This is my band cuz I sometimes wonder what people from the org with the same musical taste would sound like.....


BlackGuitarist - Sensuous String Stretching And Gripulating Guitar Gyrations

Meloh9 - 2nd Guitar, Keyboards, crowd commands, Plenty of Pee


OkayPimpin - Trumpet and Horn arrangements, Blow By Blow Backwards

Psycosoul - PsycoSoul, nuff said?

PaliGap - Vocals, Screams, Prank calls to 911, Master Of Maggot Trivia

Jimmy Chamberlin - Drums, two rocks and a Billy Club

Bootsy Collins - Bassaholic, Space Bass Booming Butt Bounce Bottoms

Produced, Pronounced, Professed, Prophesized and Creative Ejaculate by

SuperNova


We need a name?

I was thinking The Verge
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Reply #21 posted 07/09/04 7:27pm

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The funk band.
(2 drummers, 2 guitarists, 2 keyboardist, bass, horn section and female vocalist)

RHYTHM SECTION: Building the house from the ground up.
Bernard "Pretty" Purdie - drums
Billed as "The World's Most Recorded Drummer". Whether this is true or not I have no idea.
But he's played on some funky records (Rock Steady, Chain of Fools, See-Saw, Baby, I Love You, RESPECT, Green Earrings, The Fez). As well as with artists like Aretha Franklin, Steely Dan, James Brown, King Curtis, Miles Davis, Marvin Gaye and The Jackson Five. Pretty good starting point.

Ricky Lawson - drums
Ricky's played with Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Stevie Wonder, Al Jarreau, George Benson, Eric Clapton, Lionel Richie, George Duke, Babyface, The Brothers Johnson, Quincy Jones, Steely Dan as well as being an integral part of the Yellowjackets for many years. His technique would add color to Purdie's solid grooves.

Marcus Miller - Bass
Aretha Franklin, Roberta Flack, Grover Washington Jr., Bob James, David Sanborn, Lonnie Liston Smith and of course Miles Davis. If you can find any of his Jamaica Boys stuff with Lenny White check it out for pure funk.

Prince - guitar
The funky guitar spot goes to The Kid. It would be interesting to see Prince in a setting where he would have to collaborate.

Paul Jackson Jr. - guitar
Michael Jackson, Temptations, Gerald Alston, Bobby Womack, Luther Vandross, Patrice Rushen, Ramsey Lewis, Nancy Wilson, the Pointer Sisters, Howard Hewett, Dennis Edwards, Jeffrey Osborne and Steely Dan are just some of the artists this guitarist has played or recorded with. You look at any of the stage bands put together for award ceremonies for example and 9 times out of 10 he'll have one of the guitar chairs. A consumate professional. Don't think he's funky? Check out "I Came To Play".

Herbie Hancock - keys
supernova has already given an apt description of why you'd have Herbie as your keyboard man.
When I think of lush chords combined with a funky rhythmic sense, 2 songs immediately come to mind and they're both from the Thrust album. Butterfly and Spank-A-Lee.

Alan Evans - B3
This gentleman from the group Soulive is like having Jaco and Jimmy Smith welded into one body. Since Soulive has no bass player, Alan plays super funky basslines with his left hand while comping or playing complex lines with his right. I'm not talking about nursery school basslines ala Ray Manzerek. He's on his brother's bass drum (Alan) like white on rice. Talk about independence. Plus he could double basslines with Marcus. The guy is just a funkified freak.

HORN SECTION
Emilio Castillo - tenor
Since I wanted a horn section and this is a funk band, I chose a guy who maintained one of the most consistent sounding funky sections over a 30 year period. This is because of the way Emilio (along with The Doctor) wrote the chord voicings and specified the articulation of the parts in the horn charts.

Eddie Harris - tenor
Eddie was one of the early jazz players to feel the funk. Tunes like "Get On Down", "Is It In" and "I Need Some Money" show his unique and funky playing style. According to his site, Harris tunes have been sampled by Macy Gray, Jamiroquoi, the Fresh Prince and Heavy D.

Charlie Parker - alto
Legend. It'd be fun to see Bird playing funk.

Randy Brecker - trumpet
I'm chosing this cat for his ability to play within a section not as a soloist. Don't get me wrong, the dude can play. The old Brecker Brothers tunes like "Some Skunk Funk" made me think of him.

Fred Wesley - trombone
Played and arranged for James Brown, George Clinton, Bootsy Collins, Count Basie, Ray Charles, Lionel Hampton, Randy Crawford, Vanessa Williams, The SOS Band, Cameo and rappers De La Soul. Who wouldn't want him in the section?

Ronnie Cuber - baritone sax
I needed a bari for Emilio's charts and outside of Doc Kupka (didn't want to break my own rule), he was the only other player I could think of. Plus he's a Brooklyn homeboy. Ronnie's played with Eric Clapton, Steely Dan, Chaka Khan, Maynard Ferguson, Boz Scaggs, Horace Silver, Dr. John and Frank Zappa.

VOCALS
Chaka Kahn - female vocalist
During the Rufus era, she was it for me. She just sings nasty.

dancing jig your ass off.

tA

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Reply #22 posted 07/09/04 7:47pm

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Meloh9 said:

This is my band cuz I sometimes wonder what people from the org with the same musical taste would sound like.....


BlackGuitarist - Sensuous String Stretching And Gripulating Guitar Gyrations

Meloh9 - 2nd Guitar, Keyboards, crowd commands, Plenty of Pee


OkayPimpin - Trumpet and Horn arrangements, Blow By Blow Backwards

Psycosoul - PsycoSoul, nuff said?

PaliGap - Vocals, Screams, Prank calls to 911, Master Of Maggot Trivia

Jimmy Chamberlin - Drums, two rocks and a Billy Club

Bootsy Collins - Bassaholic, Space Bass Booming Butt Bounce Bottoms

Produced, Pronounced, Professed, Prophesized and Creative Ejaculate by

SuperNova


We need a name?

I was thinking The Verge


woot!
Thank you sir worship
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Reply #23 posted 07/09/04 8:04pm

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theAudience said:

The funk band.


See now if you woulda said I could break it down by genre, I wouldn't have tried to have 75 folks in my band lol
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Reply #24 posted 07/10/04 11:07am

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psykosoul said:

See now if you woulda said I could break it down by genre, I wouldn't have tried to have 75 folks in my band lol

Oh yeah, it's MY fault again! disbelief

You know you wanted to have power and control over 75 musicians. evilking

deal Take their money via fines for being late to rehearsal, shoes unshined, stage clothes unpressed, playing wrong notes and cursing on/off stage.

True? nod

Good band, but tell Charlie Hunter he's gotta get rid of a couple of strings.
Meshell is starting to feel a little cramped. stickpoke

lol

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Reply #25 posted 07/10/04 11:14am

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kisscamille said:

Carlos Santana - lead guitar
Bootsy Collins - bass
Keith Richards - rythym guitar
Neil Peart - Drums
Chet Baker - Trumpet
Elton John - Piano
Freddy Mercury - lead vocals
Prince - Whatever wink

Some interesting sounds would come out of this unit. nod
Talk about eclectic. cool

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Reply #26 posted 07/10/04 12:09pm

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Meloh9 said:

This is my band cuz I sometimes wonder what people from the org with the same musical taste would sound like.....


BlackGuitarist - Sensuous String Stretching And Gripulating Guitar Gyrations

Meloh9 - 2nd Guitar, Keyboards, crowd commands, Plenty of Pee


OkayPimpin - Trumpet and Horn arrangements, Blow By Blow Backwards

Psycosoul - PsycoSoul, nuff said?

PaliGap - Vocals, Screams, Prank calls to 911, Master Of Maggot Trivia

Jimmy Chamberlin - Drums, two rocks and a Billy Club

Bootsy Collins - Bassaholic, Space Bass Booming Butt Bounce Bottoms

Produced, Pronounced, Professed, Prophesized and Creative Ejaculate by

SuperNova


We need a name?

I was thinking The Verge

touched
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Reply #27 posted 07/10/04 1:00pm

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Meloh9 said:

This is my band cuz I sometimes wonder what people from the org with the same musical taste would sound like.....


BlackGuitarist - Sensuous String Stretching And Gripulating Guitar Gyrations

Meloh9 - 2nd Guitar, Keyboards, crowd commands, Plenty of Pee


OkayPimpin - Trumpet and Horn arrangements, Blow By Blow Backwards

Psycosoul - PsycoSoul, nuff said?

PaliGap - Vocals, Screams, Prank calls to 911, Master Of Maggot Trivia

Jimmy Chamberlin - Drums, two rocks and a Billy Club

Bootsy Collins - Bassaholic, Space Bass Booming Butt Bounce Bottoms

Produced, Pronounced, Professed, Prophesized and Creative Ejaculate by

SuperNova


We need a name?

I was thinking The Verge

When is the listening/autograph party? music

tA

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Reply #28 posted 07/12/04 8:31am

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lol lol personally, I like Meloh9's lineup , but .....hmmm...let's see...

Sly Stone --Keyboards, guitar, bass, drums, percussion and vocals
Prince -- Guitar, keyboards and bass and drums, percussion and vocals
Shuggie Otis -Guitar, Keyboards, bass, drums, percussion and b.vocals
David Sancious-- Keyboards , Guitar, bass and background vocals
Marcus Miller-- Bass, Keyboards,and background vocals
Buddy Miles -- Drums, keyboards and vocals


Everyone taking turns on various instruments! Don't know how long this band could stay together before a fiery breakup(not very long -- might not even make it past rehearsals!biggrin )but it sure would be something to see and hear.... lol
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Reply #29 posted 07/12/04 8:56am

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Back in the day...

Aretha Franklin-piano, vocals
Stevie Wonder-arp and moog synths, vocals
Donny Hathaway-rhodes/organ, vocals

backed by an orchestra





Now...

D'Angelo-keys, vocals
Raphael Saadiq-bass, vocals
Chalmers "Spanky" Alford-guitar
Michael Bland-drums
Cee-Lo Green-vocals
Tweet-vocals
Caron Wheeler-vocals
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