This has probably been asked a million times.

Is there a known tracklist. or predicted tracklist. what tracks could have been put into the dream factory?

what about crystal ball?

is the following correct for camille?

Rebirth Of The Flesh
Housequake
Strange Relationship
Feel U Up
Shockadelica
Good Love
If I Was Your Girlfriend
Rock Hard In A Funky Place

Dream Factory was never truly completed, so we only have the
last configuration made before it was shelved to go on (and
the previous incarnations of it). Crystal Ball on the other hand
was completed. Here's the tracklists for both.

Dream Factory

Visions
Dream Factory
Train
The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker
Strange Relationship
Starfish And Coffee
Slow Love
I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man
Sign O' The Times
A Place In Heaven
Crystal Ball
The Cross
Last Heart
Witness 4 The Prosecution
Movie Star
All My Dreams

Crystal Ball

Rebirth Of The Flesh
Play In The Sunshine
Housequake
The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker
It
Starfish And Coffee
Slow Love
Hot Thing
Crystal Ball
If I Was Your Girlfriend
Rockhard In A Funky Place
The Ball
Joy In Repetition
Strange Relationship
I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man
Shockadelica
Good Love
Forever In My Life
Sign O' The Times
The Cross
Adore
It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night
.

thanks borris!
your the best

why are you always so reliable?

didn't wendy have an interlude in dream factory?

BorisFishpaw said:

Damn good compilations in my books. I wonder how they would have been received by critics?

Probably too much greatness in handle.

What is it about 1987? I mean, damn.

Ooohhh Just asked for listing on another thread. Thanks Boris.

monte said:

Lisa's piano piece 'Visions' opens the album, but Wendy doesn't have one.She does sing lead vocals on 'A Place In Heaven'.

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thebumpsquad said:

That's Lisa singing on "A Place In Heaven"...
And Wendy had a guitar interlude...

Neversin.

Neversin said:

My bad!
I meant Lisa singing!
So, is Wendy's interlude the guitar part at the beginning of 'I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man'?

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thebumpsquad said:

yep.

purpleone said:

that interlude just about improves what was already a great song "i love this version with the interlude"

awsome version of icnttpoym !!!

I just noticed that I accidentally ommited 'It' from my
'Dream Factory' tracklist. It's also worth noting that there
are two slightly different running orders for the final
configuration of 'Dream Factory'... and yes, there was a
guitar interlude before 'I Could Never Take The Place Of Your
Man' played by Wendy, and a short interlude (sometimes
called 'Nevaeh Ni Ecalp A') before 'Dream Factory'.
Here's both running orders...

1. Visions
2. Dream Factory
3. Train
4. The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker
5. It
6. Strange Relationship
7. Starfish And Coffee
8. Slow Love
9. I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man
10. Sign O' The Times
11. A Place In Heaven
12. Crystal Ball
13. The Cross
14. Last Heart
15. Witness 4 The Prosecution
16. Movie Star
17. All My Dreams


1. Visions
2. Dream Factory
3. Train
4. The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker
5. It
6. Strange Relationship
7. Slow Love
8. Starfish And Coffee
9. I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man
10. Sign O' The Times
11. Crystal Ball
12. A Place In Heaven
13. Last Heart
14. Witness 4 The Prosecution
15. Movie Star
16. The Cross
17. All My Dreams
.

Boris (aka the vault keeper) you da man.

Anyone else actually like the backwards intro to Dream Factory? I actually like the 3 second melody it makes.

Was there ever a tracklist compiled for the Roadhouse Garden disc that was never delivered to us a few yrs ago?

BorisFishpaw said:

So it looks like the Warners rejected a few songs twice. I am an artist and I tell ya.. that is the most discouraging thing one could ever encounter. So discouraging that I took Prince's cue and started my own label in 1999. Geez.. just imagine how far along P would be if it weren't for them holding him back all those years.

Actually, Warners didn't reject any of Prince's songs from
either Dream Factory or Crystal Ball. Dream Factory was
shelved by Prince immediately after the Revolution split, as
Prince saw it very much as a 'Revolution' project. If he had
gone ahead and released it, he would have had to make
videos for the singles and toured the album without it's key
contributors (particularly Wendy & Lisa), and Prince didn't
want to do that.

Warners didn't have any problems with any of the tracks on
Crystal Ball, they just didn't want to release a triple album.
They didn't see releasing a triple album as really being a viable
commercially successful proposition. They basically told
Prince that they would only release Crystal Ball if he could
cut it down to a double album, but left it completely up to
him as to which songs he would cut or edit to reduce the
running time.

Roadhouse Garden was completed and sequenced, but the
actual tracklist has never leaked out to my knowledge. All
we know is that it contained tracks like "All My Dreams",
"Witness 4 The Prosecution", "Roadhouse Garden", "In A
Large Room With No Light" and "Empty Room".

BorisFishpaw said:

Do u know if we can expect 2 C the light of Day of this project??

Ps>Did u heard somethin' about prince Future projects??

Thanx Brotha'

I honestly don't know if Roadhouse Garden will ever see the
light of day (I suspect not in the foreseeable future). There
are many unreleased albums in the vault, and Prince isn't
keen on releasing 'old' material, as he's always working on
some current project or two.

...And yes, there is a new album completed and ready for
release. From what I heard it's due for release late during
the first quarter of 2004, but as you know Prince often
changes his mind at the last minute so that may change.

BorisFishpaw said:

He could have TWO careers.

He could sell OLD stuff online to his freaky fans (us) and NEW stuff through the stores.

One should not have to exclude the other, in my opinion.

I do not want to look inside Prince's mind () but it would be great to find out why exactly he holds on to so much good material. And why he edits so much of the stuff he decided to release.

gooeythehamster said:

Yeah, it makes a lot of sense to everyone but Prince, but since it's his stuff he has the last word - I suspect that's one of the reasons, he likes to dangle a carrot infront of people.

Romance1600 said:

I think he does not tend to care what others think. He makes the music for himself.

Sumtimes it feels like he just needs us to keep him going financially, though. Lots of remarks the last few years were about control, ownership and the rest. Then he gave a religious spin to it all and it got confusing to me.

He does alot for his fans though. He does not have to have an internet site, a club. It is just I wish he'ld make it a bit more accesible. Logical.
I'd rather that he let us pay a NORMAL ticket price and then choses some WINNERS from the club to sit on stage, instead of people with lots of cash.

It seems that his business is too big and that his organisation does not practise what he preaches.

Then again, that's hard with a new religion/spiritual stance every five years

Where did THAT come from?

I know why he doesn't like releasing old albums, and I can see
his point of view, but it doesn't stop me wishing that the door
to the vault was left ajar... just a little.

BorisFishpaw said:

What is that point of view?

gooeythehamster said:

I guess that his "religion" now prevents him from releasing Wonderful Ass

Boris,


Why don't you just ask him to release this stuff since you are the only one I know who has all the answers to this stuff!!! LOL

Man I thought I was on with projects and outtakes but you take it to the next level.

I agree with a prev post and I also have posted about starting a real music club with an archive release every 3 months.

Prince can look still look ahead while admiring the past.

I will buy both old & new regardless.

Hey they released the Chic Diana mix album 20 plus yrs after maybe we can get some archive albums from Prince.

No light in a large room still sounds damn good to me even with some tape hiss... I think I actually prefer the grittiness on some stuff.

Romance1600 said:

Prince knows his older material is far superior and he knows when he releases those alongside his current material the older material will get more attention and acclaim and that will confirm to himself as well as everyone else that he has lost the plot...
He's still competing himself...

Neversin.
[This message was edited Wed Nov 5 14:40:15 PST 2003 by Neversin]

BorisFishpaw said:

i haven't heard that Roadhouse garden project was completed. first,didn't just prince touch up some trax from '85 era vault material his own ?
and then,i know,W&L turned down the project for some reason,it was shelved all at once.