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Thread started 02/22/24 5:14am

lustmealways

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do you remember the first time you heard "others here with us"

i do.

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Reply #1 posted 02/22/24 6:32am

Ramzoo

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Yes through the boot "Charade".

Too bad that it was not included in the "SOTT" SDE... "In All My Dreams" was, so why not "Others Here With Us" ? Wait till "Parade" SDE ?

"Money won't buy U happiness but it'll pay 4 the search."
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Reply #2 posted 02/22/24 7:26am

nayroo2002

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lustmealways said:

i do.

you do?

wow, me, too.

not that i've been stalking you, per se.

but, there are others here with you...

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #3 posted 02/22/24 7:44am

RJOrion

No
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Reply #4 posted 02/22/24 12:19pm

erik319

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I didn't like it. I still don't.

However, if there's a version in the vaults minus the awful screaming but retaining the strings from the Clare Fischer orchestrated version, I might change my mind.
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Reply #5 posted 02/22/24 3:31pm

paisleyparkgir
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That song and Dance with the Devil are so creepy.

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Reply #6 posted 02/22/24 3:34pm

thisisreece

I don’t remember the first time I heard it, but I love it. I wish there was whole lot more like this.
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Reply #7 posted 02/22/24 4:24pm

lustmealways

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I only remember because I had just been reading this ghost story and was pretty thoroughly unsettled so I was like "let me put on some Prince to lighten the mood, here's one I haven't heard before... what's this?" and LOL you can imagine how I felt.

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Reply #8 posted 02/22/24 4:51pm

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lustmealways said:

i do.

I do as well. It was sometime in 1991 on the Charade boot CD. I still can't get over how odd and eerie the song is. It makes you wonder if it was inspired by something paranormal that he experienced in LA - old Hollywood is very haunted.

“To create something from nothing is one of the greatest feelings, and I would – I don’t know, I wish it upon everybody. It’s heaven.” – Prince
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Reply #9 posted 02/22/24 5:10pm

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I was pretty blown away.

This and "Dance with the Devil."

My 2nd fav has always been The Cure. Actually, maybe 1A for Prince and 1B for The Cure is more accurate, because I had them at a tie before Prince transitioned or whatever.

Both have work that is simultaneously important to my teenage years and now embedded in my every day, like it just exudes naturally.

Like a lot of my favs there's little crossover between the two. I've never related to the "similar artists" Spotify generation's propensity for putting on variations of the same stuff you already have. "I like x, give me more like x." The Cure and Prince are a great example of this, because 99% of the time The Cure ain't doing anything funky, and 99% of the time Prince ain't doing anything gothy.

Except these two tracks, which show Prince could've made some incredible contributions to the goth genre, and that Batman could've been a halfway decent record if he wasn't like his fans, afraid of the darkness or indulging in "negativity".

Which is why I understand why Prince fans generally aren't crazy about "Other's Here with Us". Like the same set of fans who believe "Free" and Lovesexy are top-shelf probably run for ze hills after 20-30 seconds of "Other's Here with Us". There's none of that cheeseball preening "Positivity" sentiment that compels some fans to choke down his most cringe material because "it has a beautiful message." Finally, something for the morose. At last, a message I can relate to.

The man truly could've done anything, he just actively chose not to.

And the screams are the best part, wtf kind of madness takes in here..

[Edited 2/22/24 17:16pm]

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Reply #10 posted 02/22/24 6:06pm

lustmealways

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lovesexy is my single favorite album of all time by anyone and i also think others here with us has a lot of merit and stands uniquely in his catalog.

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Reply #11 posted 02/22/24 6:12pm

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Fair enough.

Like your previous post here though, I would wager most Prince fans when they're perusing the discog are generally looking "for something to lighten the mood" like you wrote.

I mean 9 times out of 10 put on a random Prince track you're usually gonna expect some element of funk or fun, that's natural enough.

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Reply #12 posted 02/22/24 6:27pm

TrivialPursuit

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Ramzoo said:

Yes through the boot "Charade".

Too bad that it was not included in the "SOTT" SDE... "In All My Dreams" was, so why not "Others Here With Us" ? Wait till "Parade" SDE ?


Probably where I heard it, too. I had a few boots in the 90s that I purchased, but none really had any Parade era takes on them. It was likely during the Napster days that I started finding stuff from that period (likely referencing Dave Hill's A Pop Life since that's all that was available to me at the time).

I just remember wondering how he thought that would end up in the movie. Of course it was a placeholder for other things. Some of those outtakes (Others, All My Dreams, Old Friends 4 Sale, etc) had kind of personal or specific messages in them, none of which were quite generic enough for a movie soundtrack.

The one thing the estate has gotten consistently wrong is separating "Old Friends 4 Sale" and "All My Dreams." They segue into each other, respectively, and everyone seems to forget that.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #13 posted 02/22/24 6:31pm

RODSERLING

Never heard it.
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Reply #14 posted 02/23/24 4:18am

FrankieCoco1

Like Ramzoo, heard it on Charade late 80’s and always thought it was haunting and intriguing. I love these oddball type tracks and hope there are lots more weirdness like this to come from the vault.
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #15 posted 02/23/24 8:22am

funkbabyandthe
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First time i heard it i was young so thought it was creepy
Later i thought it was a bit hammy
Even later i now find it interesting, a bit theatrical, but not as sinister as its maybe meant to be
Cool to hear him do something like this though, and i love the music, its just the lyrics that dont quite make it for me
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Reply #16 posted 02/23/24 7:29pm

SoulAlive

It’s a very unique,creepy song and I like it.
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Reply #17 posted 02/23/24 7:32pm

SoulAlive

I first heard it in the late 80s on a cassette that another fan made for me.She included this song and some other Parade-era outtakes.
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Reply #18 posted 02/24/24 8:13am

nayroo2002

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it was on the first "bootleg" i ever bought.

10 bucks for a mail order cassette out of a 'Goldmine' magazine back in the late 80's.

there was a hodge podge of outtakes on it that my then self was all wide eyed about and

first discovered Prince's cheeky side with the likes of "Chocolate", "Databank", "Movie Star", "Girl O My Dreams", etc...

then, this one eek

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #19 posted 02/24/24 8:52pm

SpookyPurple

First heard it on a T compilation called 1986 I traded him a Star Wars figure for in the mid 90s haha. Thought it was pretty bad. Still do. Feels like P jealous of MJ Thriller success and wanting to one-up him and failing. Dance w the Devil is great though. Same w Papa. I love dark P. Others is just kind of a lame mess imo.
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Reply #20 posted 02/24/24 11:42pm

bluegangsta

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SpookyPurple said:

Feels like P jealous of MJ Thriller success and wanting to one-up him and failing.

Are you seriously suggesting that Others Here With Us was Prince's attempt at competing with Michael Jackson's Thriller?

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
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Reply #21 posted 02/25/24 12:49am

funkbabyandthe
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others here with us is way more experimental.

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Reply #22 posted 02/25/24 7:46am

SpookyPurple

Not competing in terms of thinking he’d make a bigger hit but in thinking he could make a “better” (whatever you think P thought would be better) version of a similarly themed song. I mean, come on, before Thriller who was making songs with that subject matter? And then Prince does one a couple of years later? Dude was insanely competitive. I don’t think it’s a coincidence, personally, but he was right to shelve it. It would’ve garnered the same, unfavorable, comparisons I’m making. But we all have our own opinions.
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Reply #23 posted 02/25/24 8:50am

SoulAlive

the song was placed on an early configuration of Parade but it’s hard to imagine this song on that album or in the UTCM film.
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Reply #24 posted 02/25/24 8:54am

nayroo2002

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Your favourite scenes from under the cherry moon

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #25 posted 02/25/24 9:32am

funkbabyandthe
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it would have been a decent b side.

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Reply #26 posted 02/26/24 2:24am

Krid

paisleyparkgirl said:

That song and Dance with the Devil are so creepy.

Absolutely co-sign biggrin

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Reply #27 posted 02/26/24 2:30am

Vannormal

Always loved it.

Especially the verison with Clare F orchestra.

But it needs a proper release for a better sound quality and mix for sure.

It sound sharp and eerie, and indeed hurts your ears when plying to loud.

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"Bobby had an uncle who took a string
And wrapped his neck around it, a pitiful thing
If only we can turn back the hands of time
Except there's others here with us, life is sublime"

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #28 posted 02/26/24 10:14am

LOSTPASSWORDMA
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Yeah on Charade, The whole 'album' simply blew me away!

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Reply #29 posted 02/26/24 6:07pm

adamusa

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