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Reply #90 posted 09/25/20 7:36pm

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I wished Train faded the train/track noise it is distracting...

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Reply #91 posted 09/25/20 7:41pm

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New ending on Cocoa Boys got a brotha feeling sum kinda ways touched
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Reply #92 posted 09/25/20 9:05pm

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No-one else hears the SOTT bass line in Cocoa Boys?

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Reply #93 posted 09/25/20 9:21pm

RJOrion

milesb said:

No-one else hears the SOTT bass line in Cocoa Boys?




yep..ive always felt like those 2 songs were somehow related, musically
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Reply #94 posted 09/25/20 9:21pm

RJOrion

purplepolitician said:

New ending on Cocoa Boys got a brotha feeling sum kinda ways touched



me 2
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Reply #95 posted 09/25/20 9:48pm

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Everybody Wants What They Dont Got is the strongest song on this set. SO good cool


I wouldn’t go that far

But it is damn good and hardly gets mentioned

When i first heard it as a boot, i had it in rotation for like 2 weeks...
Listening in better quality has been a real treat
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Reply #96 posted 09/25/20 11:01pm

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Cocoa Boys is as good as the man has put out! What a fucking track!
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Reply #97 posted 09/25/20 11:04pm

RJOrion

SPOOKYGAS said:

Cocoa Boys is as good as the man has put out! What a fucking track!




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Reply #98 posted 09/26/20 12:40am

AvocadosMax

SPOOKYGAS said:

Cocoa Boys is as good as the man has put out! What a fucking track!

I’m actually new to this one. And its growing on me!!

Just wish the audience noise was lower in the mix or just faded out or even in and out in appropriate places
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Reply #99 posted 09/26/20 1:04am

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Yes Cocoa Boys sounds weird at first as we were used to the more basic boot version but actually after a few listens it works very well with horns and the other additions (maybe crowd a bit loud but...). Like his additional voiceovers and humour - the 'two man' bit made me LOL.

Nice ending bit too... Probably would have worked very well on the SOTT album itself.

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Reply #100 posted 09/26/20 1:17am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Yes Cocoa Boys sounds weird at first as we were used to the more basic boot version but actually after a few listens it works very well with horns and the other additions (maybe crowd a bit loud but...). Nice ending bit too... Probably would have worked very well on the SOTT album itself.

[Edited 9/26/20 1:09am]

What happened to The Ball seguing into Joy In Reptition as on the bootlegs? As that song was also originally done in 86. Is that being saved for the Graffiti Bridge SE or did he use the original on GB?

[Edited 9/26/20 1:22am]

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Reply #101 posted 09/26/20 1:25am

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Eggplant works better with Wendy and Lisa IMO, more fun!

Anyone else notice the backing beat on It Be's Like That Sometimes is the same used in Violet Blue on Jill Jones's album? Nice uplifting song.

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Reply #102 posted 09/26/20 1:31am

Romeoblu

What an amazing set of songs this is.

I think Vault 2 might be my favourite of the Vault albums.

Blanche and Soul Psychodelicide is another 1 2 punch of funk.
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Reply #103 posted 09/26/20 1:53am

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JorisE73 said:



jaynoonan said:



It Be's Like That Sometimes



hmm, sounds familiar but can't place it. Average to me. mid-tempo, doesnt really go anywhere.




I hear The Ball/Eye No and Gangster Glam in it.



I hear a bit of Elephants And Flowers in there as well.
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Reply #104 posted 09/26/20 5:14am

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LoveGalore said:

Anyone else notice how in the book Duane says It Be's Like That Sometimes was a precursor to the Lovesexy title track?

Yeah, that's been puzzling me too. Can hear bits of 'The Ball', 'Eye No' and 'Gangster Glam' in there, but can't really place any of 'Lovesexy' unless he was referring to the earlier version called 'Luv Sexy'?

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Reply #105 posted 09/26/20 6:50am

RJOrion

holy shit "Blanche" is blazin hot...

Prince sounds just like Al McKay from Earth Wind & Fire on guitar... he channeled McKay's tone & rhythm feel so perfectly from the opening chords, it damn near sounds like Ew&F produced this back in 1975 with Charles Stepney and Prince

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Reply #106 posted 09/26/20 6:58am

RJOrion

SoulAlive said:

rebelenterprise said:

alexzander said: I definitely love it. Almost went on my final "Revolution" tracklist album, but replaced it with "A Place In Heaven" + "Colors" for W+L's input. But not only does the track remind me of 70's Chicago...it also has a "Paisley Park" feel to it IMO.

nod yep,I was thinking of early-70s Chicago when I first heard it.That's what it remeinds me of.

definitely Chcago...it hit me within the first 8 bars

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Reply #107 posted 09/26/20 7:22am

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LoveGalore said:


Anyone else notice how in the book Duane says It Be's Like That Sometimes was a precursor to the Lovesexy title track?


Yeah, that's been puzzling me too. Can hear bits of 'The Ball', 'Eye No' and 'Gangster Glam' in there, but can't really place any of 'Lovesexy' unless he was referring to the earlier version called 'Luv Sexy'?



Yeah, literally every time I hear it, The Ball comes to mind. If it's not a mistake that he said it was "Lovesexy" then it really has to be a version of that song we have no idea about. I thought the tea was for "Luv Sexy" that it didn't make sense to the band or whatever? And then P came back with the version we know? IBLTS sounds really conventional to me.
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Reply #108 posted 09/26/20 7:57am

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RJOrion said:

SoulAlive said:

nod yep,I was thinking of early-70s Chicago when I first heard it.That's what it reminds me of.

definitely Chcago...it hit me within the first 8 bars

nod

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Reply #109 posted 09/26/20 8:30am

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RJOrion said:

milesb said:

No-one else hears the SOTT bass line in Cocoa Boys?




yep..ive always felt like those 2 songs were somehow related, musically


With U Got The Look synths
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Reply #110 posted 09/26/20 12:27pm

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dodger said:

RJOrion said:
yep..ive always felt like those 2 songs were somehow related, musically
With U Got The Look synths

...but....I do love the bootleg-version of Cocoa boys..where it's all stripped down...and he's singing those horn sections...I like it...when it is weird and not perfect smile

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Reply #111 posted 09/26/20 12:36pm

RJOrion

Pellwormer said:

dodger said:

RJOrion said: With U Got The Look synths

...but....I do love the bootleg-version of Cocoa boys..where it's all stripped down...and he's singing those horn sections...I like it...when it is weird and not perfect smile

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me too..i prefer Cocoa Boys and Ballad Of Dorothy Parker both without the horns...but its super cool to have both versions of each

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Reply #112 posted 09/26/20 12:39pm

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Reading the book, it's clear now why When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes was once described as a piano ballad, not dissimilar to Free. Apparently it started out that way as a demo recorded on a boom box.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #113 posted 09/26/20 12:57pm

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

Reading the book, it's clear now why When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes was once described as a piano ballad, not dissimilar to Free. Apparently it started out that way as a demo recorded on a boom box.



Reminds me of Trust musically.
In my files I've also got an intrumental titled When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes but fuck knows where or what it's from
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Reply #114 posted 09/26/20 6:16pm

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Talking about similarities between "Cocoa Boys" and "Sign o the Times".
Isn't even that speaking-rapping-singing vocal kind to the that same in "SOTT"?

I hear even that "It's a silly, no?..." melodic line in "Cocoa Boys"

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Reply #115 posted 09/26/20 6:20pm

RJOrion

dodger said:

RJOrion said:




yep..ive always felt like those 2 songs were somehow related, musically


With U Got The Look synths


i cant believe i never noticed that until you pointed it out...i had to go back and listen to both.. im slippin
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Reply #116 posted 09/26/20 11:59pm

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dodger said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Reading the book, it's clear now why When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes was once described as a piano ballad, not dissimilar to Free. Apparently it started out that way as a demo recorded on a boom box.



Reminds me of Trust musically.
In my files I've also got an intrumental titled When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes but fuck knows where or what it's from


That Instrumental is a Mazarati b side. Champagne Saturday.

Someone tried to pass it off as When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes
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Reply #117 posted 09/27/20 3:41am

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I love the complete Cocoa Boys. The crowd sounds add to it because it tells the story of a band going on stage to show out. Love all the new additions and spoken parts in between.

It Be Like That Sometime = Jill Jones "Violet Blue". Wow. Threw me off guard right away...heres yet another track that was the basis for another...same with Cocoa Boys = Shockadelica/SOTT

When The Dawn.... An earlier version of still unreleased "The Line". I lobe these busy loud tracks all over the vault discs. Man this one got me praising the Lawd up in hih and nodding at everyone in the front pew with my alpacia wool hat honey
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Reply #118 posted 09/27/20 8:50am

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

Reading the book, it's clear now why When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes was once described as a piano ballad, not dissimilar to Free. Apparently it started out that way as a demo recorded on a boom box.


Wow, that’d be cool to hear. The released version here is one of my favorites on the vault discs. I’d love to head a slowed down version, too. (I don’t have the book yet, so I don’t know if they say anything else about it.)
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Reply #119 posted 09/27/20 10:58am

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LoveGalore said:

rlittler81 said:

Yeah, that's been puzzling me too. Can hear bits of 'The Ball', 'Eye No' and 'Gangster Glam' in there, but can't really place any of 'Lovesexy' unless he was referring to the earlier version called 'Luv Sexy'?

Yeah, literally every time I hear it, The Ball comes to mind. If it's not a mistake that he said it was "Lovesexy" then it really has to be a version of that song we have no idea about. I thought the tea was for "Luv Sexy" that it didn't make sense to the band or whatever? And then P came back with the version we know? IBLTS sounds really conventional to me.

The rthythm of the lyrics is essentially the same as Eye No... wonder if he meant 'opening rack' rather than title track?

It's funny that P seemed to spend so much time (as in, two earlier, complete tracks) getting to Eye No. Always quite liked it in the context of Lovesexy, but never thought it was such a strong track that he must have spent a lot of time reworking it.

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