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Reply #300 posted 07/17/18 10:30am

TrevorAyer

udo said:



Kares said:


Wrong, but nevermind.



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Anybody care to elaborate, please?


Kares is getting confused ... the word MASTER is being used in many different ways creating said confusion but from where I sit we are all saying the same thing. WB isn’t smart enough to find the untainted versions of songs .. we may end up with product from source material that is several generations removed from the highest sound quality ... wb and estate make poor audio quality decisions .. we will get noise reduced cassettes and brickwalled releases before we get something like an unprocessed “unmastered” crystal ball track sans massive ear bloating compression
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Reply #301 posted 07/26/18 2:42am

endymion

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it used to be, in the late 90s, if you owned 3 or more prince albums,
you could send away for a certificate and you'd be an official (with
gold stars) mastering engineer. that's why there's so many on here.


smile

[/quote]



Fucking hilarious thumbs up! worship
What you don't remember never happened
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Reply #302 posted 07/26/18 5:48pm

RODSERLING

One month After, and still nothing.
Exactly the kind of genius marketing Prince would have done.
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Reply #303 posted 07/26/18 6:17pm

IstenSzek

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RODSERLING said:

One month After, and still nothing. Exactly the kind of genius marketing Prince would have done.


well what is there to report? as you've told us, a gazillion times, there will be no rereleases,
no reissues, no special album themed box sets and no outtake collections. all this is a just a
distribution deal to get the already released yet out of print albums onto streaming platforms.

hardly worth making a big deal about is it? they'll get some minor blurbs if and when albums
start to appear on the platforms.


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #304 posted 07/27/18 4:48am

RODSERLING

IstenSzek said:



RODSERLING said:


One month After, and still nothing. Exactly the kind of genius marketing Prince would have done.


well what is there to report? as you've told us, a gazillion times, there will be no rereleases,
no reissues, no special album themed box sets and no outtake collections. all this is a just a
distribution deal to get the already released yet out of print albums onto streaming platforms.

hardly worth making a big deal about is it? they'll get some minor blurbs if and when albums
start to appear on the platforms.




Is it really So difficult for Sony to put on streaming and digital download the albums?
I just Can t believe it.
They could have released on streaming/download everything in the week following the announcement if they wanted to.
.
It looks like this deal Will also turn out to be à bummer. There must be many légal issues in the wings that prévent this deal to be fulfilled, including the existing deal with Tidal that is exactly the same thing.
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Reply #305 posted 07/27/18 4:50am

feeluupp

IstenSzek said:

RODSERLING said:

One month After, and still nothing. Exactly the kind of genius marketing Prince would have done.


well what is there to report? as you've told us, a gazillion times, there will be no rereleases,
no reissues, no special album themed box sets and no outtake collections. all this is a just a
distribution deal to get the already released yet out of print albums onto streaming platforms.

hardly worth making a big deal about is it? they'll get some minor blurbs if and when albums
start to appear on the platforms.


don't forget to add he also will say Prince won't sell or doesn't sell anymore lol

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Reply #306 posted 07/27/18 11:22am

IstenSzek

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RODSERLING said:

IstenSzek said:


well what is there to report? as you've told us, a gazillion times, there will be no rereleases,
no reissues, no special album themed box sets and no outtake collections. all this is a just a
distribution deal to get the already released yet out of print albums onto streaming platforms.

hardly worth making a big deal about is it? they'll get some minor blurbs if and when albums
start to appear on the platforms.


Is it really So difficult for Sony to put on streaming and digital download the albums? I just Can t believe it. They could have released on streaming/download everything in the week following the announcement if they wanted to. . It looks like this deal Will also turn out to be à bummer. There must be many légal issues in the wings that prévent this deal to be fulfilled, including the existing deal with Tidal that is exactly the same thing.


i think their original press blurb said something about starting 'later this year', didn't it?

but you're right, it's sort of rediculous that they can't start to put albums up at least two
a month or something like that. if they came to streaming with some extra stuff like the
b-sides and remixes attached, it would be a bit more of an incentive for people like us to
make some noise about them, too.

if they're not going to remaster or expand these albums, what's the hold up? tidal had
them all up quick enough and they got the original high quality files from prince, right?
you'd think those are all ready to go for all platforms now smile

let's wait if they'll surprise us and are working on some mastermind marketing strategy

behind the scenes. lol

seems like business as usual in prince land. announcements galore, yet no specific info
and no transparancy (let alone decent promotion). good thing we're used to that, since
most of us have been on this bandwagon for about 35 years lol



and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #307 posted 07/27/18 11:23am

IstenSzek

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feeluupp said:

IstenSzek said:


well what is there to report? as you've told us, a gazillion times, there will be no rereleases,
no reissues, no special album themed box sets and no outtake collections. all this is a just a
distribution deal to get the already released yet out of print albums onto streaming platforms.

hardly worth making a big deal about is it? they'll get some minor blurbs if and when albums
start to appear on the platforms.


don't forget to add he also will say Prince won't sell or doesn't sell anymore lol



now i'm wondering if prince will even garner streams anymore eek lol

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #308 posted 07/28/18 2:21am

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:



IstenSzek said:




RODSERLING said:


One month After, and still nothing. Exactly the kind of genius marketing Prince would have done.


well what is there to report? as you've told us, a gazillion times, there will be no rereleases,
no reissues, no special album themed box sets and no outtake collections. all this is a just a
distribution deal to get the already released yet out of print albums onto streaming platforms.

hardly worth making a big deal about is it? they'll get some minor blurbs if and when albums
start to appear on the platforms.





don't forget to add he also will say Prince won't sell or doesn't sell anymore lol


Try à girl
[Edited 7/28/18 2:23am]
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Reply #309 posted 07/28/18 4:19am

feeluupp

RODSERLING said:

feeluupp said:

don't forget to add he also will say Prince won't sell or doesn't sell anymore lol

Try à girl [Edited 7/28/18 2:23am]

But ROD Prince won't sell anymore... nuts

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Reply #310 posted 07/31/18 3:25am

love2thenines2
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RODSERLING said:

feeluupp said:

don't forget to add he also will say Prince won't sell or doesn't sell anymore lol

Try à girl [Edited 7/28/18 2:23am]

Or a boy?

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Reply #311 posted 08/01/18 1:15am

RODSERLING

feeluupp said:



RODSERLING said:


feeluupp said:



don't forget to add he also will say Prince won't sell or doesn't sell anymore lol



Try à girl [Edited 7/28/18 2:23am]


But ROD Prince won't sell anymore... nuts



What a jerk you are...I m not responsible for the poor sales of PR deluxe or Prince last albums. Blâme it on the orgers and many other fans that didn t want to buy it.
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This year PR sold 44.000 copies in the Us, including...25.000 on vinyle! And on CD this is the regular cheaper one CD version that sells.
The deluxe édition still sells poorly.
.
And as I SAID, this streaming/digital deal could achieve huge numbers, and makes for great publicity to the whole Prince catalogue if they hurry up.
.
And the Piano 1983 Will make better reviews and numbers worldwide than what à 1999 deluxe would have done, that s for sure. Hell, it cost nothing for WB! Nobody to pay!
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I agree though that the 2016 Piano tour would have been à better commercial/artistic operation, but obviously it cost more money.
.
Prince sales Will dépend on the type of release and the money put on it by the record company. Logical.
.
If they had released The 1st avenue on BD with PR deluxe (even for an higher Price), this would have been à worldwide success.
.
If Gold or Musicology would have been available at Prince s death, at least digitally, it would have sold reasonnably Well.
Now in 2018, this is not realistic to release that kind of thing physically.
[Edited 8/1/18 1:21am]
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Reply #312 posted 08/01/18 3:31am

feeluupp

RODSERLING said:

feeluupp said:

But ROD Prince won't sell anymore... nuts

What a jerk you are...I m not responsible for the poor sales of PR deluxe or Prince last albums. Blâme it on the orgers and many other fans that didn t want to buy it. . This year PR sold 44.000 copies in the Us, including...25.000 on vinyle! And on CD this is the regular cheaper one CD version that sells. The deluxe édition still sells poorly. . And as I SAID, this streaming/digital deal could achieve huge numbers, and makes for great publicity to the whole Prince catalogue if they hurry up. . And the Piano 1983 Will make better reviews and numbers worldwide than what à 1999 deluxe would have done, that s for sure. Hell, it cost nothing for WB! Nobody to pay! . I agree though that the 2016 Piano tour would have been à better commercial/artistic operation, but obviously it cost more money. . Prince sales Will dépend on the type of release and the money put on it by the record company. Logical. . If they had released The 1st avenue on BD with PR deluxe (even for an higher Price), this would have been à worldwide success. . If Gold or Musicology would have been available at Prince s death, at least digitally, it would have sold reasonnably Well. Now in 2018, this is not realistic to release that kind of thing physically. [Edited 8/1/18 1:21am]

It's all your fault that Prince doesn't sell anymore ROD. ROD ROD ROD. ITS YOUR FAULT lol booty!

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Reply #313 posted 08/01/18 4:33am

love2thenines2
003

RODSERLING said:

feeluupp said:

But ROD Prince won't sell anymore... nuts

What a jerk you are...I m not responsible for the poor sales of PR deluxe or Prince last albums. Blâme it on the orgers and many other fans that didn t want to buy it. . This year PR sold 44.000 copies in the Us, including...25.000 on vinyle! And on CD this is the regular cheaper one CD version that sells. The deluxe édition still sells poorly. . And as I SAID, this streaming/digital deal could achieve huge numbers, and makes for great publicity to the whole Prince catalogue if they hurry up. . And the Piano 1983 Will make better reviews and numbers worldwide than what à 1999 deluxe would have done, that s for sure. Hell, it cost nothing for WB! Nobody to pay! . I agree though that the 2016 Piano tour would have been à better commercial/artistic operation, but obviously it cost more money. . Prince sales Will dépend on the type of release and the money put on it by the record company. Logical. . If they had released The 1st avenue on BD with PR deluxe (even for an higher Price), this would have been à worldwide success. . If Gold or Musicology would have been available at Prince s death, at least digitally, it would have sold reasonnably Well. Now in 2018, this is not realistic to release that kind of thing physically. [Edited 8/1/18 1:21am]

With 44000 units sold...WB makes his business & his money ..Not billions dollars but enough money to make them smile !

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Reply #314 posted 08/01/18 6:24am

RODSERLING

love2thenines2003 said:



RODSERLING said:


feeluupp said:



But ROD Prince won't sell anymore... nuts



What a jerk you are...I m not responsible for the poor sales of PR deluxe or Prince last albums. Blâme it on the orgers and many other fans that didn t want to buy it. . This year PR sold 44.000 copies in the Us, including...25.000 on vinyle! And on CD this is the regular cheaper one CD version that sells. The deluxe édition still sells poorly. . And as I SAID, this streaming/digital deal could achieve huge numbers, and makes for great publicity to the whole Prince catalogue if they hurry up. . And the Piano 1983 Will make better reviews and numbers worldwide than what à 1999 deluxe would have done, that s for sure. Hell, it cost nothing for WB! Nobody to pay! . I agree though that the 2016 Piano tour would have been à better commercial/artistic operation, but obviously it cost more money. . Prince sales Will dépend on the type of release and the money put on it by the record company. Logical. . If they had released The 1st avenue on BD with PR deluxe (even for an higher Price), this would have been à worldwide success. . If Gold or Musicology would have been available at Prince s death, at least digitally, it would have sold reasonnably Well. Now in 2018, this is not realistic to release that kind of thing physically. [Edited 8/1/18 1:21am]



With 44000 units sold...WB makes his business & his money ..Not billions dollars but enough money to make them smile !



I never Said the Contrary...I just said that 57% from these numbers actually comes from the vynil...which seems to be the biggest market for Prince today : his singles reissues sold Well too (Well for a niche market).

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The regular 1 CD version must sell two or three Times better than the expanded deluxe released last year. So the reissue this year sold what ? 6 or 7.000 copies?
.
So that s the point when I say that reissue is not à good option, neither for WB, nor for Sony.
.
Sony and WB both have better things to make more money.
[Edited 8/1/18 6:24am]
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Reply #315 posted 08/01/18 11:43am

luvsexy4all

so not only r people on here audio technicians ..they r marketing moguls

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Reply #316 posted 08/01/18 1:57pm

feeluupp

luvsexy4all said:

so not only r people on here audio technicians ..they r marketing moguls

Yup. Rod works for the marketing department at WB, and has all the sales for every Prince record on file. lol

He also came to the conclusion that Prince will never sell anymore, and no new albums will be released.

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Reply #317 posted 08/03/18 7:08am

tomds

Is there a consensus on what 35 albums they're talking about ?
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Reply #318 posted 08/07/18 4:20pm

luvsexy4all

but if theyre only for download..whats the delay???

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Reply #319 posted 08/08/18 12:44am

RODSERLING

luvsexy4all said:

but if theyre only for download..whats the delay???



I suspect it s about legal rights.
Maybe they sold it to Sony telling them they would have the exclusivity. Then, they discovered the existence of Tidal.
.
Sounds like the deal with Universal.
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Reply #320 posted 08/08/18 10:15am

luvsexy4all

maybe they will coincide with the 9/21 release

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Reply #321 posted 08/09/18 6:26pm

206Michelle

Kares said:



jjam said:


Maybe Sony can get rid of the awful album version of The Most Beautiful Girl In The World and replace it with the EP version. I don't quite know what Prince was thinking including that mix on the album.



.
The last thing we want is someone fiddling with Prince's mixes and finished albums – just leave them as they are! The fact that Prince has made some questionable artistic decisions (and it was just one of the many natural results of his creative freedom and boldness) does not mean that I'd want someone to try "correcting" those "mistakes". So please don't even try to give the Estate the wrong ideas...
.


Kares, I agree with you. I want the original album as Prince made it.
Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
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Reply #322 posted 08/17/18 6:15pm

206Michelle

Emancipation, 3121, Musicology, and more! I’m a freaking kid in a candy store!!!
woot! drool dancing jig
Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
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Reply #323 posted 08/18/18 4:14pm

Tokyo

Album review on Cocoa Diaries now: http://cocoadiaries.com/f...rple-haze/
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Reply #324 posted 08/20/18 8:37am

Cinny

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So we figured out The Gold Experience is missing from that number? lol

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Reply #325 posted 08/20/18 8:42am

Cinny

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I am loving the NPGMC stuff. Hell, those songs were digital only to begin with, and I have long since misplaced those files (even the CD-R they were on). It is nice to see those ones, The Chocolate Invasion and The Slaughterhouse, on iTunes.

I even copped One Nite Alone "Solo Piano & Voice" rose because I could never get it on CD even when he was alive. RARE!

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Reply #326 posted 08/25/18 1:06am

timmie

tomds said:

Is there a consensus on what 35 albums they're talking about ?

with what's streaming now - I think this:

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1. For You
2. Prince
3. Dirty Mind
4. Controversy
5. 1999
6. Around The World In A Day
7. Sign Of The Times
8. Lovesexy
9. Diamonds And Pearls
10. O+>
11. Come
12. Gold Experience
13. Chaos And Disorder
14. Emancipation
15. Crystal Ball
16. The Truth
17. The Vault…Old Friends 4 Sale
18. Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic
19. Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic
20. The Rainbow Children
21. One Nite Alone...
22. One Nite Alone...Live!
23. One Nite Alone...Live! The Aftershow
24. Xpectation
25. N.E.W.S.
26. C-Note
27. Musicology
28. The Chocolate Invasion
29. The Slaughterhouse
30. 3121
31. Planet Earth
32. Indigo Nights
33. Lotusflow3r
34. Mplsound
35. 20ten

a

a

These later ?

PlectrumElectrum

ArtOfficialAge

Hit N Run Phase 1

Hit N Run Phase 2

https://www.prnewswire.co...72798.html
" Additional album titles from the 2014-2015 era will also be distributed with worldwide rights under the deal in the future."

a

a

Staying with WB

Purple Rain
Parade
Batman
Graffiti Bridge
? The Black Album

? Piano & A Microphone 1983


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