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Reply #30 posted 06/27/18 8:37am

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Kares said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

Sony may not want that stuff. Yes they are "essential" to Prince diehards but the casual fan? Hell, I'm a huge Prince fan and don't think they're "essential" at all.

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Please read before commenting. I said "they are essentially Prince albums", not that they are essential releases in his catalog. Casual fans don't even know about albums such as Xpectation or NEWS...

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I did, and I read wrong. It happens. My opinion still remains the same though.

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Reply #31 posted 06/27/18 8:41am

Kares

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Kares said:

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Sony Legacy has done an amazing job with many great catalogs, including Miles Davis's and Herbie Hancock's, for example. Also, Sony is doing a similarly excellent job with the Bob Dylan catalog under the Columbia label. So the general negativity is childish and ignorant.
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Thanks for the positivity. It would appear to be a natural fit for Sony to add the Paisley Park label catalog and Prince-produced albums (The Time, Madhouse, Sheila, V6) at a later date.

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I have a feeling we might see all of these releases as Japanese-made mini-LPs in the (hopefully near) future and that will surely be a wonderful collection to have. smile I'm guessing as Sony did put out all the Miles Davis and Bob Dylan reissues in Japan as mini-LPs, several times already. I can hardly wait...

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Reply #32 posted 06/27/18 8:41am

jjam

Kares said:

jjam said:

Maybe Sony can get rid of the awful album version of The Most Beautiful Girl In The World and replace it with the EP version. I don't quite know what Prince was thinking including that mix on the album.

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The last thing we want is someone fiddling with Prince's mixes and finished albums – just leave them as they are! The fact that Prince has made some questionable artistic decisions (and it was just one of the many natural results of his creative freedom and boldness) does not mean that I'd want someone to try "correcting" those "mistakes". So please don't even try to give the Estate the wrong ideas...
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Too late for that considering the Piano & A Microphone upcoming release.

Only kidding re The Gold Experience. I've just always found it baffling how Prince could include that track in such an overblown version.

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Reply #33 posted 06/27/18 8:45am

Kares

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For all the people badmouthing Sony: just please have a look at that Santana Lotus reissue they've put out in Japan last year. Lots of bonus material even though it was a triple album to begin with, and reproducing ALL of the original, amazing artwork in a 7"(!) mini-LP package.
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Reply #34 posted 06/27/18 8:59am

darkroman

This is nice but nothing to get excited about.

Most people already have the releases but this does mean the 'missing' albums on streaming websites will now be included.


Most people have missed the THREE mentions to PREVIOUSLY RELEASED MATERIAL!

35 essential previously released album

rights beginning immediately to 19 previously released album titles

agreement also includes rights to other previously released material


PREVIOUSLY RELEASED does not mean Vault material or anything else unreleased.

Sure, in the further there could be a contract to cover Vault material but this IS NOT it!

lol lol



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Reply #35 posted 06/27/18 9:00am

jjam

Better having legit reissues than the shitty sealed counterfeit copies of The Gold Experience all over eBay.

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Reply #36 posted 06/27/18 9:05am

rogifan

darkroman said:

This is nice but nothing to get excited about.

Most people already have the releases but this does mean the 'missing' albums on streaming websites will now be included.


Most people have missed the THREE mentions to PREVIOUSLY RELEASED MATERIAL!

35 essential previously released album

rights beginning immediately to 19 previously released album titles

agreement also includes rights to other previously released material


PREVIOUSLY RELEASED does not mean Vault material or anything else unreleased.

Sure, in the further there could be a contract to cover Vault material but this IS NOT it!

lol lol




I dunno, for me getting the non-WB albums on streaming services and iTunes is a big deal. Of course the 2014 and 2015 albums are already on streaming services.
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Reply #37 posted 06/27/18 9:10am

darkroman

rogifan said:

I dunno, for me getting the non-WB albums on streaming services and iTunes is a big deal. Of course the 2014 and 2015 albums are already on streaming services.


I certainly agree!

It's would be convenient having the missing releases on Spotify for when out and about.


lol

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Reply #38 posted 06/27/18 9:19am

motherfunka

Oh yay, 35 albums I already own. Maybe one day we'll get something worth discussing.

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Reply #39 posted 06/27/18 9:25am

tab32792

i second this

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Hopefully this means we will start getting true Vault releases, and not garbage like Piano And Microphone 83.

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Reply #40 posted 06/27/18 9:35am

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motherfunka said:

Oh yay, 35 albums I already own. Maybe one day we'll get something worth discussing.



Agreed on this. I don't know why I should get excited about the re-release of stuff I already own.

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Reply #41 posted 06/27/18 9:39am

Empress

RodeoSchro said:

motherfunka said:

Oh yay, 35 albums I already own. Maybe one day we'll get something worth discussing.



Agreed on this. I don't know why I should get excited about the re-release of stuff I already own.

Agreed! Unless they are going to remaster some and then I would buy the remasters.

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Reply #42 posted 06/27/18 9:47am

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At last, a second chance to not get around to buying NewPowerSoul! lol

I kid, I kid. The important thing is that all this stuff will be available to the world again.

And, yeah... I'll probably buy NPS this time. cool

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Reply #43 posted 06/27/18 9:55am

SkipperLove

I hope and suspect that they will re-release these albums with addictional b-sides/unreleased songs associated with each album, and hopefully new packaging. I imagine all albums (like 3121 which has been sadly missing) will be released on streaming sites like Spotify. I hope they give the releases some hype, package a few of them together and sell them for reasonable prices. (after all, CD's aren't being bought as much now and some of these prince albums are very flawed.)

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Reply #44 posted 06/27/18 9:58am

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jjam said:

Maybe Sony can get rid of the awful album version of The Most Beautiful Girl In The World and replace it with the EP version. I don't quite know what Prince was thinking including that mix on the album.

Awful to U.... disbelief

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #45 posted 06/27/18 9:58am

Kares

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Can everyone please just read the press release before fantasising about previously unreleased stuff? They clearly stated this deal is about previously released material.

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Reply #46 posted 06/27/18 10:00am

ChocolateBox31
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SkipperLove said:

I hope and suspect that they will re-release these albums with addictional b-sides/unreleased songs associated with each album, and hopefully new packaging. I imagine all albums (like 3121 which has been sadly missing) will be released on streaming sites like Spotify. I hope they give the releases some hype, package a few of them together and sell them for reasonable prices. (after all, CD's aren't being bought as much now and some of these prince albums are very flawed.)

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The deal DOES NOT include Vault recordings.

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #47 posted 06/27/18 10:01am

TrevorAyer

Nps is better than half the p catalog ... don’t be sleepin
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Reply #48 posted 06/27/18 10:23am

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This is a win, win.

1) We get the post WB albums re-issued (possibly remastered)

2) most likely they'll also be on streaming services so new fans that be exposed to Prince

3) WB has a limited time release existing albums under their deal so they may be encouraged to put some expanded editions out before 2021

It will be interesting to see what happens to vault material (I know it's not part of this deal). Will WB keep the rights to pre '94 material in perpetuity?

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Reply #49 posted 06/27/18 10:33am

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Dangelus said:

This is a win, win.

1) We get the post WB albums re-issued (possibly remastered)

2) most likely they'll also be on streaming services so new fans that be exposed to Prince

3) WB has a limited time release existing albums under their deal so they may be encouraged to put some expanded editions out before 2021

It will be interesting to see what happens to vault material (I know it's not part of this deal). Will WB keep the rights to pre '94 material in perpetuity?

Prince was going to receive FULL ownership of his Masters Recordings from WBR excluding the soundtracks in 2021. It's heartbreaking he didn't live long enough to reap the financial benefits from it as HARD as he fault for them. cry

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So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #50 posted 06/27/18 10:38am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

Dangelus said:

This is a win, win.

1) We get the post WB albums re-issued (possibly remastered)

2) most likely they'll also be on streaming services so new fans that be exposed to Prince

3) WB has a limited time release existing albums under their deal so they may be encouraged to put some expanded editions out before 2021

It will be interesting to see what happens to vault material (I know it's not part of this deal). Will WB keep the rights to pre '94 material in perpetuity?

Prince was going to receive FULL ownership of his Masters Recordings from WBR excluding the soundtracks in 2021. It's heartbreaking he didn't live long enough to reap the financial benefits from it. cry

Ah so the WB deal covers all original recordings (including vault material) created whilst he was under contract to WB... So in 2021 ALL vault material will be up for grabs. Another incentive for WB to release as much as possible before 2021 I guess.

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Reply #51 posted 06/27/18 11:06am

motherfunka

Dangelus said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Prince was going to receive FULL ownership of his Masters Recordings from WBR excluding the soundtracks in 2021. It's heartbreaking he didn't live long enough to reap the financial benefits from it. cry

Ah so the WB deal covers all original recordings (including vault material) created whilst he was under contract to WB... So in 2021 ALL vault material will be up for grabs. Another incentive for WB to release as much as possible before 2021 I guess.

You would think, but it's been over 2 years and we haven't seen much.

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Reply #52 posted 06/27/18 11:08am

Silvertongue7

So nothing new? Ok.
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Reply #53 posted 06/27/18 11:16am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

I wonder how much this deal is for? Hopefully WAY over $30 Million.




Why??? What difference does it make if it was $29 million or $50 million ??
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Reply #54 posted 06/27/18 11:18am

Silvertongue7

endymion said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I wonder how much this deal is for? Hopefully WAY over $30 Million.




Why??? What difference does it make if it was $29 million or $50 million ??

Well, if the universal deal fell because they weren’t getting Purple Rain, and (I might be wrong) that deal included unreleased material, this one is not going to be more money if it doesn’t include PR either and it doesn’t include unreleased material...
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Reply #55 posted 06/27/18 11:21am

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endymion said:




Why??? What difference does it make if it was $29 million or $50 million ??

Well, if the universal deal fell because they weren’t getting Purple Rain, and (I might be wrong) that deal included unreleased material, this one is not going to be more money if it doesn’t include PR either and it doesn’t include unreleased material...



Yes, but I still don't get what difference it makes?

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Reply #56 posted 06/27/18 11:23am

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endymion said:
Why??? What difference does it make if it was $29 million or $50 million ??
Well, if the universal deal fell because they weren’t getting Purple Rain, and (I might be wrong) that deal included unreleased material, this one is not going to be more money if it doesn’t include PR either and it doesn’t include unreleased material...

We don't need to concern ourselves on how much $ this deal is. All that matters is somebody is interested in releasing the material. It's an easy win to get existing albums and singles back out in circulation to expose a new generation to the music. Deals have been and will be struck to release vault material over the next few years which hopefully will be helped with encouraging sales of existing previously released material.

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Reply #57 posted 06/27/18 11:24am

Strive

That's alot of albums.

Well, I hope Sony does them justice and we get some cool stuff in the future.

(But this deal doesn't include the Black Album sad )
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Reply #58 posted 06/27/18 11:25am

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Dangelus said:



Silvertongue7 said:


endymion said:
Why??? What difference does it make if it was $29 million or $50 million ??

Well, if the universal deal fell because they weren’t getting Purple Rain, and (I might be wrong) that deal included unreleased material, this one is not going to be more money if it doesn’t include PR either and it doesn’t include unreleased material...


We don't need to concern ourselves on how much $ this deal is. All that matters is somebody is interested in releasing the material. It's an easy win to get existing albums and singles back out in circulation to expose a new generation to the music. Deals have been and will be struck to release vault material over the next few years which hopefully will be helped with encouraging sales of existing previously released material.




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Reply #59 posted 06/27/18 11:32am

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Here's hoping the NPGMC digital only albums finally get a physical release.

We were HERE, where were you?

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