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Latin

Article: PRINCE And The Name Change

Check out the article published by A Pop Life entitled "Prince And The Name Change":

http://en.apoplife.nl/pri...me-change/
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Reply #1 posted 06/13/18 2:21pm

heymistermusic

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bow Thank you Latin! I read that ENTIRE article! I was always fascinated with that time period of his life.

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Reply #2 posted 06/13/18 2:42pm

pinkcashmere23

Interesting article. Thanks Latin!

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Reply #3 posted 06/14/18 1:18am

bonatoc

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Indeed, thanks.

He should have kept a low profile about it.
I never understood the bragging, "my ten next albums are going to sell 5 millions each".
SKipper had a BatCalculator that said "YES" to every one of Prince's business equations.
It's a Jobs Field of Distortion spreadsheet with all the cells tainted in shades of purple.

"Arrogance" indeed. I'm not crazy about these times. Talent never left, but the subjects in the songs are often self-centered.
It really is his "Me, Me" period, and honestly, you may like fashion, but it's not an industry that requires more ass-kissing, especially from a genius from this caliber, I found it obscene at the time, Rude Boy totally sold to the system, Anna Stesia a thousand light years from his thoughts. Prince and its relationship with money, you can't play your "I was smelling McDonald's from across the street" more than once in my book. Jamie Starr's a thief.

I'm glad for the rebel path that quickly followed and the NPG era, but with WB, like with all of his close relationships,
Prince never knew quite how to end them. It could be bad.

Prince probably thought he could put out three triple albums in a row,
and get his numbers according to the RIAA methods at the time.

But business-wise, the name change is still a fantastic move,
but the thing is, we aren't that many music lovers on the planet. We're a somewhat small market share.
With or without Warner, he was becoming self-referencing, expanding a universe
which is difficult to grasp if you haven't followed Prince's evolution.
Cleverness and originality are rarely popular. If they are, most of the time it's just the stars aligning.

And yet, all this mess gave us The Dawn and Exodus,
and one of the coolest logos ever,
so who's complaning.


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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #4 posted 06/14/18 11:04pm

Latin

Today, Omarr, Prince's brother, posted the article on Twitter.
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Reply #5 posted 06/16/18 8:02pm

heymistermusic

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I enjoyed his "symbol" days, and I love how it stuck with him after he changed back to PRINCE.

It got me to thinking of others who changed their name to some kind of symbol. The only one that comes to mind is:

? and the Mysterians

Can you think of any others? Before PRINCE, or after he changed his name to prince

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Reply #6 posted 06/16/18 11:33pm

bonatoc

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heymistermusic said:

I enjoyed his "symbol" days, and I love how it stuck with him after he changed back to PRINCE.

It got me to thinking of others who changed their name to some kind of symbol. The only one that comes to mind is:

? and the Mysterians

Can you think of any others? Before PRINCE, or after he changed his name to prince


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Heavy Metal bands were very graphic too.
Iron Maiden introduced the concept of a band's mascot/alter ego.

For over 35 years the band have been supported by their famous mascot, "Eddie", who has appeared on almost all of their album and single covers, as well as in their live shows.

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So it's not like the public wasn't prepared for a graphic-only representation of a band or artist : see the logos of ACDC, Kiss, ...

But Prince had the media platform of the nineties to make it public and widespread.

Heck, even Led Zeppelin did it before Prince.


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The original four symbols were created by Led Zeppelin in 1971, probably from the following sources:

  • 1. Jimmy Page's Zoso symbol from a sigil for Saturn from page 51 of an 1850 reprint of a 1521 French book Dragon Rouge and Poulet Noire (The Red Dragon and The Black Hen); also seen on page 31 of Frinellan's 1844 book Le Triple Vocabulaire Infernal Manuel du Demonomane. A variation of the symbol also appears in Jerome Cardan's 1557 book De rerum varietate (page 789 of this 1580 reprint).
  • 2. John Paul Jones' symbol (non-interlaced triquetra overlaying a circle) is from page 33 of Rudolf Koch's 1930 book The Book of Signs (Koch died in 1934) where it is annotated as a sign "to exorcise evil spirits".
  • 3. John Bonham's symbol (three intersecting circles) is from page 32 of the same book by Rudolf Koch, given as an "early sign for the Trinity".
  • 4. Plant's feather symbol is likely a simple merging of two symbols from the "Feather Symbol of Truth" illustration on page 105 of James Churchward's 1933 book The Sacred Symbols of Mu (Churchward died in 1936)



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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #7 posted 06/19/18 3:37am

Latin

heymistermusic said:

bow Thank you Latin! I read that ENTIRE article! I was always fascinated with that time period of his life.


You are very welcome. smile
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Reply #8 posted 06/19/18 11:25pm

pcowley

Latin said:

Check out the article published by A Pop Life entitled "Prince And The Name Change": http://en.apoplife.nl/pri...me-change/

prince was prince from 1993-1999 pretty much. I prefer the name prince more than Prince (yes no joke)

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Reply #9 posted 06/20/18 12:33am

EmmaMcG

pcowley said:



Latin said:


Check out the article published by A Pop Life entitled "Prince And The Name Change": http://en.apoplife.nl/pri...me-change/

prince was prince from 1993-1999 pretty much. I prefer the name prince more than Prince (yes no joke)



That's because you're deranged :-D

I love Prince's music as much as the next fan but pretty much everything he did was for publicity including changing his name. He can go on TV and pretend it was for any other reason but the truth is that he was becoming irrelevant at that time and needed to do something that would keep his name (or symbol) in the papers and it worked. "My claim to fame is scandal" is a quote from this period.
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