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Thread started 05/04/18 2:35am

francescoc10

Wendy's opening chord on Purple Rain

I just came across this article: https://www.guitarplayer....artnership

Wendy is explaining how she played Purple Rain on the guitar. I always knew the opening chord was played somewhere along the 5/6th fret. You can also see Prince playing the beginning of Purple Rain in his acoustic performance for Maria Bartiromo on CNBC: https://www.youtube.com/w...TH7m-IyFj4

So Wendy is saying that she is barring the 3rd fret with her index finger and using her thumb to fret the 5th or 6th on the low E and A strings. Now if she is barring the 3rd fret i'm kind of puzzled how she makes it sound right. Does anyone have any clearance on this? Does she perhaps play an open D as wel?

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Reply #1 posted 05/04/18 5:26am

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francescoc10 said:

I just came across this article: https://www.guitarplayer....artnership

Wendy is explaining how she played Purple Rain on the guitar. I always knew the opening chord was played somewhere along the 5/6th fret. You can also see Prince playing the beginning of Purple Rain in his acoustic performance for Maria Bartiromo on CNBC: https://www.youtube.com/w...TH7m-IyFj4

So Wendy is saying that she is barring the 3rd fret with her index finger and using her thumb to fret the 5th or 6th on the low E and A strings. Now if she is barring the 3rd fret i'm kind of puzzled how she makes it sound right. Does anyone have any clearance on this? Does she perhaps play an open D as wel?

somewhere along the 5/6 freat sounds a bit too vague.

Since the song is in Bb, the lower E string would have to be the 6th fret. However, if she also barred the A strong o the sixth fret, that would give an Eb, which would normally be dissonant in the Bb chord. So is she barring them sideways? i.e. 6th on the lower E, 5th on the A?

The higher strings make a GM, which is perfectely compatible with Bb.

Pity I don't have a guitar at hand to try this out smile

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Reply #2 posted 05/04/18 5:50am

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She was involved writing WDC??
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Reply #3 posted 05/04/18 6:48am

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She was involved writing WDC??

why did you ask that?

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Reply #4 posted 05/04/18 7:33am

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I just looked up the video of live 1983 First Avenue performance of Purple Rain online and you can see how Wendy is playing the opening chord.

That video with Maria Bartiromo is not how that chord is normally played (if I'm not mistaken).

When Prince would play it live, I believe he would always play it like this guy is playing:

[Edited 5/4/18 7:33am]

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Reply #5 posted 05/04/18 7:47am

E319

Actually..... HERE is the answer to the original post on this thread.... You can clearly see how Wendy is playing the opening chord.

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Reply #6 posted 05/04/18 8:01am

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this guy does a great tutorialon hoe wendy plays it

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Reply #7 posted 05/04/18 9:09am

jjam

I do wonder why Wendy doesn't play the root noot too, it's easy enough. Just do a barre with your first finger on the first fret of the A string and place your 3rd finger on the 3rd fret of the D string and your 4th finger on the 3rd fret of the G string. There you go, Wendy, just in case you're reading wink

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Reply #8 posted 05/04/18 9:25am

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e ---1---
B ---1---
G ---3---
D ---0---
A ---x---
E ---x---


This is the chord. If anyone tries to tell you otherwise they're wrong, trust me. You can CLEARY see what Wendy is playing on the First Avenue performance. It's A Bb9 chord with a D in the bass.

[Edited 5/4/18 9:38am]

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Reply #9 posted 05/04/18 9:43am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

PRNelson said:

She was involved writing WDC??

why did you ask that?

It's in the article that this thread is about and linked to by the OP.

Which Purple Rain songs were you involved in creating?

I had a hand in everything, except “Darling Nikki” and “The Beautiful Ones.”

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Reply #10 posted 05/04/18 9:46am

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dandan said:

e ---1---
B ---1---
G ---3---
D ---0---
A ---x---
E ---x---


This is the chord. If anyone tries to tell you otherwise they're wrong, trust me. You can CLEARY see what Wendy is playing on the First Avenue performance. It's A Bb9 chord with a D in the bass.

[Edited 5/4/18 9:38am]

For the record, what is the song’s opening chord?

I was in standard tuning, and Bbadd9 would be the easiest way to tab it.

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Reply #11 posted 05/04/18 10:01am

dandan

PennyPurple said:

dandan said:

e ---1---
B ---1---
G ---3---
D ---0---
A ---x---
E ---x---


This is the chord. If anyone tries to tell you otherwise they're wrong, trust me. You can CLEARY see what Wendy is playing on the First Avenue performance. It's A Bb9 chord with a D in the bass.

[Edited 5/4/18 9:38am]

For the record, what is the song’s opening chord?

I was in standard tuning, and Bbadd9 would be the easiest way to tab it.


I'm not interested in what the easy way to play it or notate it is. I'm interested in accuracy. And the chord I tabbed out is what she is playing in the opening of Purple Rain. It's putting the 3rd (D) in the bass that gives it that unique voicing.

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Reply #12 posted 05/04/18 11:10am

francescoc10

dandan said:

e ---1---
B ---1---
G ---3---
D ---0---
A ---x---
E ---x---


This is the chord. If anyone tries to tell you otherwise they're wrong, trust me. You can CLEARY see what Wendy is playing on the First Avenue performance. It's A Bb9 chord with a D in the bass.

[Edited 5/4/18 9:38am]

Thank you. In this case anyone is Wendy herself biggrin. I''ve quoted the article where she talks about the bar on the 3rd fret. I alway's played the opening chord like you tabbed it so i was surprised reading that article. It should also be noted that Wendy is talking about how the opening chord was originaly played by her.

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Reply #13 posted 05/04/18 11:13am

francescoc10

Could it be possible that she got misquoted in the article?

Man, I wish I knew Wendy personally biggrin (Wendy if you're reading this, message me x)

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Reply #14 posted 05/04/18 11:22am

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OldFriends4Sale said:



PRNelson said:


She was involved writing WDC??


why did you ask that?




She suggests it in the article. Everything except Darling Nikki and beautiful ones
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Reply #15 posted 05/04/18 2:04pm

PeteSilas

in the 2004 purple rain dvd extras she explains it..

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Reply #16 posted 05/05/18 2:23am

dandan

francescoc10 said:

dandan said:

e ---1---
B ---1---
G ---3---
D ---0---
A ---x---
E ---x---


This is the chord. If anyone tries to tell you otherwise they're wrong, trust me. You can CLEARY see what Wendy is playing on the First Avenue performance. It's A Bb9 chord with a D in the bass.

[Edited 5/4/18 9:38am]

Thank you. In this case anyone is Wendy herself biggrin. I''ve quoted the article where she talks about the bar on the 3rd fret. I alway's played the opening chord like you tabbed it so i was surprised reading that article. It should also be noted that Wendy is talking about how the opening chord was originaly played by her.


I don't know why she says that, because when you watch her play it she doesn't employ that technique at any point except for when she does use her thumb to reach over and mute the E and A string in the opening chord, which might be what she means.

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Reply #17 posted 05/05/18 2:24am

dandan

PRNelson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

why did you ask that?

She suggests it in the article. Everything except Darling Nikki and beautiful ones


I always thought the solo was her in WDC?

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Reply #18 posted 05/05/18 3:24am

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PRNelson said:

She was involved writing WDC??


No
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Reply #19 posted 05/05/18 5:26am

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PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

why did you ask that?

It's in the article that this thread is about and linked to by the OP.

Which Purple Rain songs were you involved in creating?

I had a hand in everything, except “Darling Nikki” and “The Beautiful Ones.”

Yep, I could not click on any of the links where I was at

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Reply #20 posted 05/05/18 6:05am

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OldFriends4Sale said:



PennyPurple said:




OldFriends4Sale said:




why did you ask that?



It's in the article that this thread is about and linked to by the OP.



Which Purple Rain songs were you involved in creating?


I had a hand in everything, except “Darling Nikki” and “The Beautiful Ones.”





Yep, I could not click on any of the links where I was at



Still no involvement on WDC.
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Reply #21 posted 05/05/18 9:41am

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Actually..... HERE is the answer to the original post on this thread.... You can clearly see how Wendy is playing the opening chord.

bloody awful rendition...appreciate that was a very very cold night..BUT WTAF!

[Edited 5/7/18 4:56am]

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Reply #22 posted 05/05/18 10:10am

jjam

dandan said:

e ---1---
B ---1---
G ---3---
D ---0---
A ---x---
E ---x---


This is the chord. If anyone tries to tell you otherwise they're wrong, trust me. You can CLEARY see what Wendy is playing on the First Avenue performance. It's A Bb9 chord with a D in the bass.

[Edited 5/4/18 9:38am]

Actually, I took another listen to the released version. That is what's played but there's also a Bb below the D. My feeling is that the Bb was overdubbed, although it's possible to play it by doing

e ---3---

B ---2---

G ---4---

D ---0---

A ---1---

E ---x---

At least this is the way I could do it with my small hands.

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Reply #23 posted 05/05/18 3:21pm

jjam

Sorry, I must have been on crack earlier. It's

e 1st fret (3rd finger)

B 1st fret (2nd finger)

G 3rd fret (4th finger)

D open string

A 1st fret (1st finger)

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Reply #24 posted 05/07/18 4:38am

francescoc10

Thank you!

Still no bar on the 3rd fret though..

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Reply #25 posted 05/07/18 6:26am

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jjam said:

dandan said:

e ---1---
B ---1---
G ---3---
D ---0---
A ---x---
E ---x---


This is the chord. If anyone tries to tell you otherwise they're wrong, trust me. You can CLEARY see what Wendy is playing on the First Avenue performance. It's A Bb9 chord with a D in the bass.

[Edited 5/4/18 9:38am]

Actually, I took another listen to the released version. That is what's played but there's also a Bb below the D. My feeling is that the Bb was overdubbed, although it's possible to play it by doing

e ---3---

B ---2---

G ---4---

D ---0---

A ---1---

E ---x---

At least this is the way I could do it with my small hands.

This would be my guess as well because even a novice musician can hear the low Bb in the chord (low E string at the 6th fret) and everyone recognizes the Bb as the first note in the riff moving to the next chord.

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Reply #26 posted 05/09/18 9:53am

dandan

I can hear the Bb on the bottom now. Okay so here it is, beyond doubt haha:

e ---1---
B ---1---
G ---3---
D ---0---
A ---1---
E ---x--

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Reply #27 posted 05/09/18 11:59am

PeteSilas

dandan said:

I can hear the Bb on the bottom now. Okay so here it is, beyond doubt haha:

e ---1---
B ---1---
G ---3---
D ---0---
A ---1---
E ---x--

you know you guys can go look at the sheet music for this right?

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Reply #28 posted 05/09/18 12:06pm

dandan

PeteSilas said:

dandan said:

I can hear the Bb on the bottom now. Okay so here it is, beyond doubt haha:

e ---1---
B ---1---
G ---3---
D ---0---
A ---1---
E ---x--

you know you guys can go look at the sheet music for this right?


The sheet music is still just some random persons interpretation. There's no reason to think it's right/accurate. I typed in 'Purple Rain sheet music' and the very first result is... wrong:


hl_dds_0000000000208809.png

[Edited 5/9/18 12:06pm]

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Reply #29 posted 05/09/18 12:53pm

PeteSilas

you're playing guitar right? go to music notes and punch in purple rain and get the guitar tabs, and i play piano, i don't think the version i have is wrong at all.

dandan said:

PeteSilas said:

you know you guys can go look at the sheet music for this right?


The sheet music is still just some random persons interpretation. There's no reason to think it's right/accurate. I typed in 'Purple Rain sheet music' and the very first result is... wrong:


hl_dds_0000000000208809.png

[Edited 5/9/18 12:06pm]

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