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Velvet Kitty Cat, 1985 version
Prince re-recorded the VELVET KITTY CAT track again in 1985, as a rockabilly song with different lyrics.
Are the re-written lyrics know ? How different is it ? Is it out there? Some info I found from the "Purple Rain outtakes, A track-by-track guide to the deluxe edition", But nothing on the new lyrics. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) |
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Unsure. Song is not interesting enough as a demo imo. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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I agree though. But, if the re-recorded 'rockabilly' version with other lyrics could be different... who knows. Prince had the ability of changing a less interesting demo into a great song. Like the song 'Kiss' for example. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) |
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Weren't Mazarati responsible for the transformation of Kiss? From what I remember, Prince gave them the song, then took it back when he heard what they'd done with it. RIP  | |
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. Except that was 90% done by David Z and Coke Johnson and Mazarati. http://musicthing.blogspo...-kiss.html . This is Prince 101. © Bart Van Hemelen
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BartVanHemelen said:
. Except that was 90% done by David Z and Coke Johnson and Mazarati. http://musicthing.blogspo...-kiss.html . This is Prince 101. So that little purple wicked Fella stole actually the sound of Kiss from his musicians? Uncredited ? Well well P. I knew Maserati fooled around with it, but I've never read the detailed story to that. Thanks Bart. Nevertheless I consider Prince absolutely capable of turning a worthless demo into a great tune. Undoubtedly. Hope he did it with Velvet Kitty Cat, version 1985 as well. 1985 was a great and creative era for him. Knowing now that it turned into a 'rockabilly' tune, I'm really curious. Most of Prince's little rockabilly tunes are big fun, and great gems. Hope it'll pop up one day. [Edited 10/20/17 8:19am] "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) |
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BrownMark David Z Mazarati | |
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He credited them, at least partially: it says "background vocals by Mazarati" (not Maserati) and "arranged by David Z". I know Tony Christian from Mazarati was infuriated by the whole affair, eventually quoted saying he and the band should have gotten royalties or something in that spirit (I fail to see why, the only additional thing they could have gotten was credit for playing the instruments), but David Z said he was perfectly fine with it (even though he would have deserved a co-writter credit for additional lyrics that would have ensured him an income for life, and a co-producer credit as well). So IDK. It was wrong, of course, and it's happened on a few other occasions that people wouldn't get credit when credit was due. On the other hand, it's also happened often that Prince would give away his own credits, and sometimes even his writer's royalties, to other people. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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I'm not sure Mark was there. Was he? A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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Some people have it, so it's not unthinkeable it may leak one day. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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databank said:
He credited them, at least partially: it says "background vocals by Mazarati" (not Maserati) and "arranged by David Z". I know Tony Christian from Mazarati was infuriated by the whole affair, eventually quoted saying he and the band should have gotten royalties or something in that spirit (I fail to see why, the only additional thing they could have gotten was credit for playing the instruments), but David Z said he was perfectly fine with it (even though he would have deserved a co-writter credit for additional lyrics that would have ensured him an income for life, and a co-producer credit as well). So IDK. It was wrong, of course, and it's happened on a few other occasions that people wouldn't get credit when credit was due. On the other hand, it's also happened often that Prince would give away his own credits, and sometimes even his writer's royalties, to other people. The problem is Prince have Mark the basics of the song and the Maserati version is awful. David Z even said it was not working at all. Prince sent Mark away and rearranged the song. The final version sounds a lot like the first version. If any of those guys think they would have gotten vast amounts of money off the Massarati version they are smoking crack. I also remember Alan Leeds saying each member of the Revolution being paid 50k as a salary and getting a 1 million dollar bonus at the end of the tour. What did Mark do with his money? What happened to whatever he got from Motown? | |
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databank said:
I'm not sure Mark was there. Was he? Apparently so. There's a recent Prince Podcast and Michael Dean asks him about Kiss. | |
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laurarichardson said: databank said:
He credited them, at least partially: it says "background vocals by Mazarati" (not Maserati) and "arranged by David Z". I know Tony Christian from Mazarati was infuriated by the whole affair, eventually quoted saying he and the band should have gotten royalties or something in that spirit (I fail to see why, the only additional thing they could have gotten was credit for playing the instruments), but David Z said he was perfectly fine with it (even though he would have deserved a co-writter credit for additional lyrics that would have ensured him an income for life, and a co-producer credit as well). So IDK. It was wrong, of course, and it's happened on a few other occasions that people wouldn't get credit when credit was due. On the other hand, it's also happened often that Prince would give away his own credits, and sometimes even his writer's royalties, to other people. The problem is Prince have Mark the basics of the song and the Maserati version is awful. David Z even said it was not working at all. Prince sent Mark away and rearranged the song. The final version sounds a lot like the first version. If any of those guys think they would have gotten vast amounts of money off the Massarati version they are smoking crack. I also remember Alan Leeds saying each member of the Revolution being paid 50k as a salary and getting a 1 million dollar bonus at the end of the tour. What did Mark do with his money? What happened to whatever he got from Motown? Why do you all insist on mispelling Mazarati? A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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TheEnglishGent said:
Weren't Mazarati responsible for the transformation of Kiss? From what I remember, Prince gave them the song, then took it back when he heard what they'd done with it. No...They were not responsible for the backward guitar and drum sounds. That was all prince | |
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Brownmark originaly played the bass on their recording before Prince stepped in, and removed the complete bass part : "He quickly eliminated BrownMark’s bass. It fills up the bottom so much you really don't miss the bass part, especially if you only use it on the first downbeat” sayd David Z. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) |
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Ah, ok, thanks to you and Dodger for the correction, I had totally forgotten about this. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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