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Thread started 07/22/17 5:16pm

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Blast From The Past 4.0 - Discussion Here

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Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
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Reply #1 posted 07/22/17 5:19pm

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found a copy at my door step today .. eek

I cant wait to full ingest it all

eek early version of wonderful ass faint

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #2 posted 07/22/17 6:44pm

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FragileUndertow said:

found a copy at my door step today .. eek

I cant wait to full ingest it all

eek early version of wonderful ass faint


wow

Edmonton, AB - canada

Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
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Reply #3 posted 07/22/17 6:48pm

Bebop17

Sweet, sweet liner notes. http://4th3funk.com/bootl...-past-4-0/

Gimme some horns ... uh!
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Reply #4 posted 07/22/17 7:28pm

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Bebop17 said:

Sweet, sweet liner notes. http://4th3funk.com/bootl...-past-4-0/


cool

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Reply #5 posted 07/22/17 7:34pm

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Anyone wanna do one of those Keep/Dump verdicts like @smokeverbs did for BFTP 2.0?
until then i'll pretend this fuchsia light is god...
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Reply #6 posted 07/22/17 7:45pm

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excited

Find strength in that which remains...
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Reply #7 posted 07/22/17 8:24pm

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I really dig these sets and really appreciate how far these tracks have come in quality.

For me prince always had me with music, the persona and strange cryptic behavior, not my thing, but music damn was he just a modern day mozart.

Thank you to the community for the leaks.
Music is the best...
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Reply #8 posted 07/22/17 8:37pm

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mcmk785new said:

Anyone wanna do one of those Keep/Dump verdicts like @smokeverbs did for BFTP 2.0?

Or at least a clear breakdown track by track of what we know/what we already have from somewhere else about the tracks. Which I know is a bit much to ask, but some people have a bit more information in their minds or at their fingertips than I do, and can do the job.

I'm keeping everything either way, but I'd still like to have a clear idea of what upgrades from earlier available versions, what's been unjudiciously tinkered with, what's just plain faked or fan-extended, what's controversial.

There's just so much here!

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Reply #9 posted 07/22/17 8:46pm

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So, the 3 tracks that Jill Jones leaked on Soundcloud last month...
Am I right that the copies on here are sourced from those same lossy tracks and not from a better source?

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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Reply #10 posted 07/22/17 9:26pm

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I admit i dont have great earphone, but Crystab Ball sounds great!!!!

wow girl of my dreams has a omitted intro faint

Positivity with cindy c rap in ex quality faint

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Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #11 posted 07/22/17 10:54pm

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I've finished sorting through the first CD. Here's what I think, but I should point out I can't guarantee I have the latest versions of all the previous leaks (thanks to Freek99999 for bringing it to my attention).


Soft & Wet #1 - I deleted it. They've tried to brighten it up, but the ringing on the vocal makes it unlistenable for me. The somewhat duller version I have makes for a much better listening experience.

Soft & Wet #2 - I don't think this is a new source, but I like the fuller sound. It replaced my previous copy.


Miss You - I forgot to mention this one. The quality has improved, but this is just the same old fan edit to extend the track.

Rough - Sounds the same to me, except for the extra second at the start with the full drum intro. Replaced previous.

Broken - They've removed the hiss. Kept.

Strange Way - Far better quality than the one I had.

Do Yourself - I was disappointed on first listen with the quality. When I compared it though, I realised it's from a new source. It has a drum stick intro and plays more slowly for a running time of 9:20. Kept both versions.

Turn It Up - Great quality. Replaced my previous version.

Moonbeam Levels - I thought this would be an instant delete, but it seems different to the official release. It doesn't have the same reverb on drumbeat intro. I need to do a more careful comparison, but in the meantime, I'm keeping both versions.

Jungle Love - I think this is the same as the one Jesse put up on his Facebook page.

Wet Dream Cousin - Much better quality. Replaced previous.

Wonderful Ass - The best track on this disk. Full length and fantastic quality. Tossed the 2 min edit I had in the bin.

Velvet Kitty Cat - Unbelievably, this has no hiss and sounds better than the official release. I guess they've just cleaned it up, but surely it's a bit of an embarrassment for WB.

My Love Belongs To You - Much better quality. Replaced previous.

Sex Shooter - Much better quality, but it's not the full version. I'm keeping the rougher sounding 6:56 min version as well as this.

Wednesday - Seems to be the same as the one Jill put up on Soundcloud.

Overall, I'm delighted with the first CD. Only the first Soft & Wet and the tracks leaked by Jill and Jesse weren't keepers for me. On I go to the next set of songs. There goes the rest of my weekend, but I'm not complaining.


[Edited 7/23/17 5:47am]

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Reply #12 posted 07/22/17 11:11pm

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airth said:

I've finished sorting through the first CD. Here's what I think.

[...]

Overall, I'm delighted with the first CD. Only the first Soft & Wet and the tracks leaked by Jill and Jesse weren't keepers for me. On I go to the next set of songs. There goes the rest of my weekend, but I'm not complaining.

Thank you!!

Gimme some horns ... uh!
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Reply #13 posted 07/22/17 11:43pm

BlueShakooo

Clare Fischer made some wonderful contributions to Prince's music (the Family-album and much more) but I always felt that the orchestra destroyed the purity of the "original"-Crystal Ball-version.

FINALLY a good sounding COMPLETE "Crystal Ball"-version without Clare Fischer's orchestration!!!
The FULL Bass-Solo ("listen 2 the bassman play")
AND the short jazz-bass-line afterwards ("expert, expert")...

Thank you so much EYE-people!!!
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Reply #14 posted 07/23/17 12:37am

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OMG. Eternity. eek I have never heard that one like that. OMG.

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
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Reply #15 posted 07/23/17 12:59am

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Love and Sex! eek What an amazing song.

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
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Reply #16 posted 07/23/17 1:24am

BlueShakooo

"Living Doll" is so much fun!
And "My Baby Knows '85"! Just cool!
Wnderful Jill Jones-tracks on BFTP 4!!!

I think one of the next official releases should be a Jill Jones-Album.
She's just amazing imo!!
And Prince did really great stuff with her!
I like her "My Destiny" so much more than Lisa's (sorry Lisa,but you are the greatest keyboard player!) wink
And "Wednesday"! So cute!
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Reply #17 posted 07/23/17 1:25am

funkystuff

Hey Airth. Please keep going with your "getting it to the point" review and add more discs as soon as you are ready. Thanks a lot.

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Reply #18 posted 07/23/17 1:51am

funkystuff

There's Others Here With Us with Clare Fisher input.

I'm wetting my pants.

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Reply #19 posted 07/23/17 2:12am

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better than official Deluxe release version?0_0

airth said:

Wonderful Ass - The best track on this disk. Full length and fantastic quality. Tossed the 2 min edit I had in the bin.

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Reply #20 posted 07/23/17 2:18am

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It's absolutely amazing that every sound on "Crystal Ball" is Prince (except for the female vocals, obviously).

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
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Reply #21 posted 07/23/17 2:18am

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and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #22 posted 07/23/17 2:19am

BlueShakooo

And that the "Living Doll"-ending contains "Little Rock" is just fantastic!
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Reply #23 posted 07/23/17 2:24am

BlueShakooo

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OMG. Eternity. eek I have never heard that one like that. OMG.


yeahthat
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Reply #24 posted 07/23/17 2:25am

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Phishanga said:

It's absolutely amazing that every sound on "Crystal Ball" is Prince (except for the female vocals, obviously).


the detail in the mix is just amazing eek i'm hearing things i've never heard before, there is so
much depth in it. makes me wonder if the rather shitty quality we had of this before was also
a mono? because this one sounds so much brighter and wider, it's a revelation. i'm in love love


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #25 posted 07/23/17 2:49am

MIRvmn

I'm glad I now have Baby Go-Go in such a good quality smile it's also longer than the version I already had
Thunder, all through the night
Promise to see Jesus in the morning light
Take my hand, it'll be alright
C'mon save your soul tonight
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Reply #26 posted 07/23/17 4:08am

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Really enjoyed listening to disc 2. There's some amazing stuff on here. Once again, this is just based on the versions of boots I have in my possession.

The Glamorous Life - This sounds so much better in stereo. Goodbye to the old mono version.

She's Always In My Hair - Just incredible. I never thought we'd get to hear it. On first listen, I was surprised at how close it is to the released version. Listening back to back brings out all kinds of minor differences though.

Ice Cream Castles (Instrumental) - I expected to skip this, but it's great! The guitar is beautiful and the whole song is just so laid back. I'd have never associated it with The Time in this form.

Paisley Park (Instrumental) - EYE have been fiddling around with noise reduction again. They've cleaned up the hiss that's particularly noticeable at the start, but the rest sounds pretty much the same to me. I'll probably end up keeping this one and deleting the previous leak.

When Doves Cry (Rehearsal) - This is a fantastic rendition. I really like his vocal performance. Unlike some, I never get tired of listening to the classic songs even after all these years. I wish we had more information on exactly when this rehearsal took place. It turns out it's the same as the one on the Noon Rendevous rehearsal. This one has a better balance between the left and right channels. It's also brighter - EYE's trademark sound apparently.

Next Time Wipe The Lipstick Off Your Collar - This sounds pretty much the same as the preceding leak (they appear to have the same audio faults). The start is a tiny bit different though; this version has a clearer piano run in the intro. I think I'll delete the leak and keep this one.

The Dance Electric (Alternate Mix) - I like this version, maybe more than the recent official release. It seems identical to the recent leak apart from the extra two seconds of silence followed by a click at the end. I'll delete this one.

The Screams Of Passion - Superb song. Sounds identical to the leak to me: delete.

Around The World In A Day - This sounds far better than the old version. It runs about 7 or 8 seconds faster. This is something I can actually listen to for pleasure now, rather than simply out of curiousity.

Our Destiny (Jill Jones) - If this isn't a new source, EYE have done a good job at getting rid of the hiss clearly heard on the one supplied by Jill on Soundcloud. It cuts off before you can hear Roadhouse Garden coming in so that it times perfectly with the version of Roadhouse coming up. I'll delete the one I downloaded from Soundcloud and keep this.

Roadhouse Garden - I guess they have just chopped this off from the second part of the official release and turned up the treble. It feels slightly too bright for me, but it's nice to have this overdubbed version as a single track.

Mutiny - Sounds better than what we had before. The stereo mix seems to have been flipped; I'm hearing the cymbal crashes on the right instead of the left. It also runs marginally slower, though it's only really noticeable if you switch between them.

Dear Michaelangelo - Identical to the leak a few days ago.

Toy Box (Instrumental) - Far superior quality to the previous copy (at least the one I had, but I appear to have missed an update), which sounds like it was recorded in a waterfall. I can finally appreciate the sublime guitar and bass going on here. This one is on repeat.

Another great CD. I can't wait to get onto the third one.




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Reply #27 posted 07/23/17 4:17am

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When Doves Cry is from the june 84 rehearsal that is on a lot of boots, my favorite being Noon Rendezvous on FBG18

and thanks a lot for your breakdown of each disc!

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Reply #28 posted 07/23/17 4:24am

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airth, your summaries are great. There's so much to digest on these. Thank you.
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Reply #29 posted 07/23/17 4:32am

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airth, not to criticse, but maybe you have missed Blast From The Past 2.0?

a few times when you describe a big difference with an old version (e.g. Toy Box) there is an (almost) equally great sounding version on Blast 2.0

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