Tittypants said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

No it isn't race based. A lot of the people who had a bad taste when this all happened prior, were African - American. Don't make assumptions when you don't know who is behind the screen.

Lots of African-Americans don't like Jay Z or Beyonce.

Strawman

Fans are upset about almost everything involving Prince

Don't assume it's not race-based, & PLEASE don't be so naive to this shit, because I am sure YOU don't know every person behind the screen either.


Btw, I'm still waiting for someone to provide all of these facts about Jay-Z being a snake, which I have yet to see.

Do not assume it is race based & PLEASE don't be so naive to this shit, because I am sure YOU don't know every person behind the screen either

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I said to them stop assuming someones race or ethnicity on the org unless they tell you. Don't be naive about this. The assumptions are generally based on a persons own narrow stereotypes.

A whole lot of African-Americans do not like Jay Z plain n simple.

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Ask those people who called him a snake.

Gotta love the org. As assured as salmon swimming upstream to their place of birth, the usual culprits twist any topic to a racism issue to reflect/deflect their own bigotry.

Wow! People really hate Jay Z! I would like to to know Jay Z side side on what happened. People are so quick to dismiss him because he is a rapper.

SquirrelMeat said:

Gotta love the org. As assured as salmon swimming upstream to their place of birth, the usual culprits twist any topic to a racism issue to reflect/deflect their own bigotry.

Race plays a factor in many things. Just because some people want to closed their eyes to it does not mean it is not a variable on how they view Jay Z.

3stori3s said:

vainandy said:

And this is supposed to be a businessman? Trash can't even use an "ed" at the end of "auction".

[Snip - luv4u]

[Flame snip - luv4u]

laytonian said:

laytonian said:

. Race accusations here are silly. JAY-Z is the same race as Prince. . The thing with this is, it's sloppy. Prince charged people to walk through his house. He had no casket. To me, he's just someone trying to disguise the fact that he's profiting on Prince's death through the publicity for this song. . Shrug. .

What??? First off...from Midnight last night until about 3pm, all I heard about all over the internet was Jay-Z's album dropping. He was "profiting" and would seriously still be doing so, if this song was not there. Second, Prince didn't charge people to "walk through his house". He charged people to commune with him in person...in his home. Big difference. Huge. MASSIVE!!!

luv4u said:

Patience.....

Purplestar88 said:

SquirrelMeat said:

Gotta love the org. As assured as salmon swimming upstream to their place of birth, the usual culprits twist any topic to a racism issue to reflect/deflect their own bigotry.

Race plays a factor in many things. Just because some people want to closed their eyes to it does not mean it is not a variable on how they view Jay Z.

Yes, but not always. Or for the rest of our lives we are imature children jumping at ghosts.
Sometimes it is a strawman or a monkey wrench thrown in to distract from the real deal.

I've seen women arguing/debating with a man, loosing the arguement throw in that man must be sexist or something to try to get people to pay further attention to them and disqualify the man in the debate.
Race cannot be the first thing that comes up whenever...

The fact is many African-Americans do NOT like Jay Z

And to assume the people on here who disagree with him are non-Black racists is BS

And it is a very weak arguement.
I know some ladies who are African-American and we worked together on Police Brutality issues, I believe it was Beyonce's Formation thing that came up and they went on about their dislike for Jay Z and what they think of him and how they still feel he cause a lot of trouble in the communities etc etc.
These were Black women.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Purplestar88 said:

Race plays a factor in many things. Just because some people want to closed their eyes to it does not mean it is not a variable on how they view Jay Z.

Yes, but not always. Or for the rest of our lives we are imature children jumping at ghosts.
Sometimes it is a strawman or a monkey wrench thrown in to distract from the real deal.

I've seen women arguing/debating with a man, loosing the arguement throw in that man must be sexist or something to try to get people to pay further attention to them and disqualify the man in the debate.
Race cannot be the first thing that comes up whenever...

The fact is many African-Americans do NOT like Jay Z

And to assume the people on here who disagree with him are non-Black racists is BS

And it is a very weak arguement.
I know some ladies who are African-American and we worked together on Police Brutality issues, I believe it was Beyonce's Formation thing that came up and they went on about their dislike for Jay Z and what they think of him and how they still feel he cause a lot of trouble in the communities etc etc.
These were Black women.

What a convienent story.

[Please do not derail the thread. Want to discuss race? then create a thread over in politics and religion forum. Stay on topic, thanks snip - luv4u]

rdhull said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yes, but not always. Or for the rest of our lives we are imature children jumping at ghosts.
Sometimes it is a strawman or a monkey wrench thrown in to distract from the real deal.

I've seen women arguing/debating with a man, loosing the arguement throw in that man must be sexist or something to try to get people to pay further attention to them and disqualify the man in the debate.
Race cannot be the first thing that comes up whenever...

The fact is many African-Americans do NOT like Jay Z

And to assume the people on here who disagree with him are non-Black racists is BS

And it is a very weak arguement.
I know some ladies who are African-American and we worked together on Police Brutality issues, I believe it was Beyonce's Formation thing that came up and they went on about their dislike for Jay Z and what they think of him and how they still feel he cause a lot of trouble in the communities etc etc.
These were Black women.

What a convienent story.

Yup! I agree.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Purplestar88 said:

Race plays a factor in many things. Just because some people want to closed their eyes to it does not mean it is not a variable on how they view Jay Z.

Yes, but not always. Or for the rest of our lives we are imature children jumping at ghosts.
Sometimes it is a strawman or a monkey wrench thrown in to distract from the real deal.

I've seen women arguing/debating with a man, loosing the arguement throw in that man must be sexist or something to try to get people to pay further attention to them and disqualify the man in the debate.
Race cannot be the first thing that comes up whenever...

The fact is many African-Americans do NOT like Jay Z

And to assume the people on here who disagree with him are non-Black racists is BS

And it is a very weak arguement.
I know some ladies who are African-American and we worked together on Police Brutality issues, I believe it was Beyonce's Formation thing that came up and they went on about their dislike for Jay Z and what they think of him and how they still feel he cause a lot of trouble in the communities etc etc.
These were Black women.

I need some statistics on this "FACT".

So....a couple of "African American" women you worked with speaks for most black people's opinions now & Jay-Z is the cause for all of the bad shit that's ever happened in the "communites"....


......okay.

Factor1 said:

From Jay-Z's new album 4:44 on the song titled "Caught Their Eyes" with Frank Ocean......... I sat down with Prince, eye to eye He told me his wishes before he died Now, Londell McMillan, he must be color blind They only see green from them purple eyes They eyes hide, they eyes high My eyes wide shut to all the lies These industry niggas, they always been fishy But ain't no Biggie, no lazy eye, huh This guy had 'Slave' on his face You think he wanted the masters with his masters? You greedy bastards sold tickets to walk through his house I'm surprised you ain't auction off the casket

GO JAY Z Thats hitting HARD

No matter what anyone else thinks about him...

Jay Z had a LOT of respect for Prince...I dont think he is being driven strictly by dollars..He has enough...I believe Jayz and Prince understood each other on a Level that many did not.

Tittypants said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yes, but not always. Or for the rest of our lives we are imature children jumping at ghosts.
Sometimes it is a strawman or a monkey wrench thrown in to distract from the real deal.

I've seen women arguing/debating with a man, loosing the arguement throw in that man must be sexist or something to try to get people to pay further attention to them and disqualify the man in the debate.
Race cannot be the first thing that comes up whenever...

The fact is many African-Americans do NOT like Jay Z

And to assume the people on here who disagree with him are non-Black racists is BS

And it is a very weak arguement.
I know some ladies who are African-American and we worked together on Police Brutality issues, I believe it was Beyonce's Formation thing that came up and they went on about their dislike for Jay Z and what they think of him and how they still feel he cause a lot of trouble in the communities etc etc.
These were Black women.

I need some statistics on this "FACT".

So....a couple of "African American" women you worked with speaks for most black people's opinions now & Jay-Z is the cause for all of the bad shit that's ever happened in the "communites"....


......okay.

Dude, I didn't say all African-Americans don't like him. Stop trying to create a further derailed arguement. I said many African-American do not like JayZ

Is there some law that says "Thou Must Like JayZ if Thou Identify As Black?" Hell U dam well a whole bunch of them don't like Beyonce or Floyonce as people call her.

That fact is that those ladies were African-American. No more proof.

and neither does Kanye West lol

Kanye West Loses His Mind, Calls Out Beyoncé and Jay Z

Jay Z Criticized For “All-White” Tidal Staff Photo

http://www.bet.com/news/music/2015/05/29/commentary-simmer-down-everybody-jay-z-cares-about-black-people.html

Jay Z Under Fire by Black Scholar for 'Pulling Out the Race Card'

http://www.thewrap.com/jay-z-under-fire-for-pulling-out-the-race-card-in-tidal-debate/

But nationally known scholar, Boyce D. Watkins, Ph.D., who frequently speaks out on issues involving social justice, tells TheWrap Jay Z may have gone too far.

“He’s invoking the names of Freddie Gray, Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, which have become somewhat sacred in the black community, and you’re invoking those into this conversation you’re having about whether your

multimillion-dollar corporation is going to be successful or not?” Watkins said. “I think that that unfortunately can come off as somewhat disingenuous, because I don’t recall Jay Z ever really being that vocal, that irate over any issue that did not involve himself

https://www.cultofmac.com/323844/rapper-explains-why-jay-z-is-smearing-apple-with-the-race-card/

http://watercoolerconvos.com/2013/11/17/thanks-for-nothing-jay-z-said-black-people-everywhere/

rdhull said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yes, but not always. Or for the rest of our lives we are imature children jumping at ghosts.
Sometimes it is a strawman or a monkey wrench thrown in to distract from the real deal.

I've seen women arguing/debating with a man, loosing the arguement throw in that man must be sexist or something to try to get people to pay further attention to them and disqualify the man in the debate.
Race cannot be the first thing that comes up whenever...

The fact is many African-Americans do NOT like Jay Z

And to assume the people on here who disagree with him are non-Black racists is BS

And it is a very weak arguement.
I know some ladies who are African-American and we worked together on Police Brutality issues, I believe it was Beyonce's Formation thing that came up and they went on about their dislike for Jay Z and what they think of him and how they still feel he cause a lot of trouble in the communities etc etc.
These were Black women.

What a convienent story.

Actually it was inconvienent.
I actually defended Jay Z and pulled out information about how he turned his life around and did thing to help others do the same.
But they weren't having it.

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I definately did not have to share that to prove that there are African-Americans that do not like Jay Z. Is there a rule book that says in order to be black you must like jay z. How many older African-Americans don't really know who he is and don't care? Millions

SquirrelMeat said:

luv4u said:

Patience.....

Hahahahahahaha!!

Mumio said:

1Sasha said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

rdhull said:

What a convienent story.

Actually it was inconvienent.
I actually defended Jay Z and pulled out information about how he turned his life around and did thing to help others do the same.
But they weren't having it.

.

I definately did not have to share that to prove that there are African-Americans that do not like Jay Z. Is there a rule book that says in order to be black you must like jay z. How many older African-Americans don't really know who he is and don't care? Millions

Purplebflogirl said:

IMHO ( not a fan of Jay Z btw) Eric Benet needs to be quiet..His " baddest girl in town" was posting about her ex for months,fought a court order because it showed that she wanted over 40k a month in alimony,,I ain't saying she's a gold digger..And to top it off ..Eric has the nerve to sing her exes songs. Sit down Eric..

True that. It is funny though that he got dissed by JayZ.

PennyPurple said:

Purplebflogirl said:

Yall are so got damn naive. Jay Z only calling them out because he is not getting a piece of the pie. This is the same fool that said he gives flowers to his mistresses.

precioux said:

Purplebflogirl said:

IMHO ( not a fan of Jay Z btw) Eric Benet needs to be quiet..His " baddest girl in town" was posting about her ex for months,fought a court order because it showed that she wanted over 40k a month in alimony,,I ain't saying she's a gold digger..And to top it off ..Eric has the nerve to sing her exes songs. Sit down Eric..

"I ain't sayin she's a gold digga...but she is dealing with a fixin to be broke n*gga"...that's WHY Eric's skank ass is doing covers-he better *duck* for cover before ever coming 'round here with that BULLSH*T!

mjscarousal said: