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Reply #390 posted 08/06/17 6:05pm

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MattyJam said:

For me, the real gem of this set is the studio version of Electric Intercourse. I was never overly fussed on the live version that had been circulating for years, but this studio version is just all kinds of amazing. So weird and wacky... and so Prince. I actually think I prefer it to The Beautiful Ones.

It's a wonderful song, i did not liuke the first ime i heard it. But the live version, i mean the video version one is just out of this world.

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Reply #391 posted 08/07/17 1:25am

shhh3121

I hope I don't offend anybody, but... when I listen to We Can F**k, the spoken part at about minute 6:00 reminds me to Michael Jackson's voice. I just can't recognise Prince's voice. Am I the one?
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Reply #392 posted 08/08/17 1:39am

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shhh3121 said:

I hope I don't offend anybody, but... when I listen to We Can F**k, the spoken part at about minute 6:00 reminds me to Michael Jackson's voice. I just can't recognise Prince's voice. Am I the one?


Same here, as if he's parodying one of those embarrassing Jacko monologues...

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Reply #393 posted 08/08/17 5:06am

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IstenSzek said:

Adorecream said:

Maybe GC is responsible for those hideous overdubs like "Pump em, we funk em, and I'm testin positive to the funk, I would rather be in anybody's trunk and let your cup overflow".

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But I agree, that jam is straight bedroom Prince magnificience.

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Had a flu for past few days and feel like shit, so have not really done much more listening or shot and Adorecream video about it yet, but hold in there. It is midwinter here, June 29 is like your December 29.

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I am still of the opinion this disc 2 is superior and a welcome release.


i think that should be:

I'd rather pee in anybody's cup
and when your cup overflow

I'm testin' postive and I'll pee some mo'

smile

Okay I messed those lyrix up, but I still love the shit.

We can fuck, it is the gift that keeps on giving - lol

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Reply #394 posted 08/08/17 5:08am

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scififilmnerd said:

purplepolitician said:

"Please fuck me again" sad lol

I had to giggle out loud the first time I heard that. biggrin

Ditto but the "We can fuck.. one another" was even funnier lol lol lol razz

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Reply #395 posted 08/08/17 5:23pm

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Neversin said:

shhh3121 said:

I hope I don't offend anybody, but... when I listen to We Can F**k, the spoken part at about minute 6:00 reminds me to Michael Jackson's voice. I just can't recognise Prince's voice. Am I the one?


Same here, as if he's parodying one of those embarrassing Jacko monologues...

Neversin.

Is Jackson not Jacko, and what monologues?

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Reply #396 posted 08/09/17 6:52am

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Doesn't anyone remember the interview where he speaks of giving Dance Electric to Andre? He mocks talking to Andre saying "You want this..its a iht, you know its a hit" in mock holier than thou speak. I think it may have been that France interview with all the extras surrounding him. Prince knew the song was a stone cold jam. And was wiling to give it up for his friend.


Yup - it was on MTV. He said that, "You want this..." in his Jamie Starr voice. It was awesome.

He actually said "You need it! You need it!" cool wink

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Reply #397 posted 08/09/17 3:53pm

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214 said:

Neversin said:


Same here, as if he's parodying one of those embarrassing Jacko monologues...

Neversin.

Is Jackson not Jacko, and what monologues?

For once I agree with you, that 5 letter version of his surname is disrespectful and was used by all the tabloids back in the day. We like the full name. Some Michael Jackson fan sites ban it and even censor is as a word.

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Reply #398 posted 08/10/17 3:47am

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[Edited 8/10/17 4:02am]

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Reply #399 posted 08/10/17 9:21am

Neversin

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Adorecream said:

214 said:

Is Jackson not Jacko, and what monologues?

For once I agree with you, that 5 letter version of his surname is disrespectful and was used by all the tabloids back in the day. We like the full name. Some Michael Jackson fan sites ban it and even censor is as a word.


[snip - let's not do this - M]

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Reply #400 posted 08/10/17 7:30pm

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Adorecream said:

214 said:

Is Jackson not Jacko, and what monologues?

For once I agree with you, that 5 letter version of his surname is disrespectful and was used by all the tabloids back in the day. We like the full name. Some Michael Jackson fan sites ban it and even censor is as a word.

Is quite offensive, what neversin wrote?

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Reply #401 posted 08/11/17 1:08am

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214 said:

Adorecream said:

For once I agree with you, that 5 letter version of his surname is disrespectful and was used by all the tabloids back in the day. We like the full name. Some Michael Jackson fan sites ban it and even censor is as a word.

Is quite offensive, what neversin wrote?

Offensive, aggressive and trolling, so hence why I reported it and the modertor snipped it.

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Reply #402 posted 08/11/17 8:35am

goosepumble

I'm late to the game commenting on this here. I was disappointed with Possessed. Much prefer the August 1983 version.

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Reply #403 posted 08/11/17 2:37pm

214

Adorecream said:

214 said:

Is quite offensive, what neversin wrote?

Offensive, aggressive and trolling, so hence why I reported it and the modertor snipped it.

Good then.

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Reply #404 posted 08/13/17 3:50am

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Fucking pathetic...

Neversin.

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Reply #405 posted 08/14/17 1:57am

JorisE73

Adorecream said:

214 said:

Is quite offensive, what neversin wrote?

Offensive, aggressive and trolling, so hence why I reported it and the modertor snipped it.


As a MJ fan I honestly don;t see the big deal about people saying Jacko. And I don't understand why people get offended by it. But these days everybody seem to find anything to get offended by.
People call Prince a Purple Midget and I don't see people get offended by that. lol

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Reply #406 posted 08/14/17 3:00pm

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JorisE73 said:

Adorecream said:

Offensive, aggressive and trolling, so hence why I reported it and the modertor snipped it.


As a MJ fan I honestly don;t see the big deal about people saying Jacko. And I don't understand why people get offended by it. But these days everybody seem to find anything to get offended by.
People call Prince a Purple Midget and I don't see people get offended by that. lol

Because it's a nickname used by the press to offend Michael, to portray him as someone unhinged from reality. He said himself he didn't like that nickname.

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Reply #407 posted 08/14/17 7:56pm

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214 said:

Because it's a nickname used by the press to offend Michael, to portray him as someone unhinged from reality. He said himself he didn't like that nickname.


It's more than that.

https://www.wordnik.com/words/jacko

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Reply #408 posted 08/14/17 8:25pm

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Cloudbuster said:

214 said:

Because it's a nickname used by the press to offend Michael, to portray him as someone unhinged from reality. He said himself he didn't like that nickname.


It's more than that.

https://www.wordnik.com/words/jacko

Since the publication of Joe Vogel's article, How Michael Jackson Made 'Bad', there's been a disturbing trend amoungst MJ communities that I've seen spread without challenge like a mutating bacteria. It's this proposition that Jacko is somehow a racial slur against black people.

British tabloid deemed him "Wacko Jacko" in 1985, but the nickname's etymology goes back further: "Jacco" or "Jacco Macacco" was Cockney slang for "monkey."

- Joe Vogel, The Atlantic (2012)

While the derivation true, it seems very far fetched to associate it with, Jacko. Jacco Macacco was the first famous baiting monkey (or ape, his specific species is unknown) that was pitted against dogs in fights to the death for observers monetary gain. Monkey-baiting is a horrific sport that animal welfare legus still battle against today in some parts of the world. In most cases the if the apes are defeated by whatever animal they're pitted against, the owners leave them for death, which sometimes, takes days of agonising pain. Spare a thought for the defeated dogs, as well.

In the U.K. and Australia it's almost customary to add an 'o' or a 'y' as a term of endearment or yes, ridicule, to the end of a name. How is this not a more plausible intention, rather than the far-fetched association with animal cruelty from the 19th century? While it seems natural for Michael Jackson fans to always highlight any shred of trivial or fabricated victimisation, for a community so obsessed with spreading facts about certain aspects of Michael's life, but are willing to exploit barbarism with no factual basis.

The point of this is simple - has there ever been any publishing use of any deviation of the term 'Jacco'? If so, why has there not been any evidence to support the claim that the original author of the name intended it within a racial context? I ask, as there doesn't seem to be any association between it and Michael Jackson on the internet before 2012.

People need to stop perpetrating this nonsense.

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Reply #409 posted 08/14/17 8:37pm

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Ah. Apparently 2012 was year zero and therefore renders any dictionary definition of the term "Jacko" irrelevant. Thanks.

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Reply #410 posted 08/14/17 8:56pm

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Cloudbuster said:

Ah. Apparently 2012 was year zero and therefore renders any dictionary definition of the term "Jacko" irrelevant. Thanks.

Ah, I guess the fact that "Jacko" is a common [non-racist] nickname in British/ Australian-English and that it was first used in reference to Michael in a British tabloid is irrelevant. Thanks.

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Reply #411 posted 08/14/17 9:00pm

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You're welcome.

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Reply #412 posted 08/15/17 1:04am

JorisE73

214 said:

JorisE73 said:


As a MJ fan I honestly don;t see the big deal about people saying Jacko. And I don't understand why people get offended by it. But these days everybody seem to find anything to get offended by.
People call Prince a Purple Midget and I don't see people get offended by that. lol

Because it's a nickname used by the press to offend Michael, to portray him as someone unhinged from reality. He said himself he didn't like that nickname.


Somehow I doubt MJ would be offended by people calling him Jacko because sadly he's dead.
I think it's more about certain fans who get triggered and easily offended by anything that in there own minds is an insult to MJ. Why care what other people call him? In the end his music is still the same and people are allowed to call anyone whatever they want.

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Reply #413 posted 08/15/17 5:22am

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JorisE73 said:



214 said:




JorisE73 said:




As a MJ fan I honestly don;t see the big deal about people saying Jacko. And I don't understand why people get offended by it. But these days everybody seem to find anything to get offended by.
People call Prince a Purple Midget and I don't see people get offended by that. lol



Because it's a nickname used by the press to offend Michael, to portray him as someone unhinged from reality. He said himself he didn't like that nickname.




Somehow I doubt MJ would be offended by people calling him Jacko because sadly he's dead.
I think it's more about certain fans who get triggered and easily offended by anything that in there own minds is an insult to MJ. Why care what other people call him? In the end his music is still the same and people are allowed to call anyone whatever they want.


Of course it's just a coincidence that MJ died on Geroge Michael's birthday which was the same date that Prince signed with Warners and the same date Purple Rain was released. And another coincidence that George Michael died on the same day as James Brown died which was on Nimrod's birthday & Prince died on the same day as Jesus.
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Reply #414 posted 08/15/17 1:06pm

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Time to rank and rate each track

1. Our Destiny / Roadhouse Garden 10/10
2. Computer Blue (“Hallway Speech” version) 10/10
3. Velvet Kitty Cat 9/10
4. Possessed 9/10
5. Katrina’s Paper Dolls 9/10
6. Love And Sex 8/10
7. Father’s Song 8/10
8. The Dance Electric 8/10
9. We Can Fuck 8/10
10. Electric Intercourse (Studio Version) 8/8
11. Wonderful Ass 8/10

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Reply #415 posted 08/15/17 2:39pm

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JorisE73 said:

214 said:

Because it's a nickname used by the press to offend Michael, to portray him as someone unhinged from reality. He said himself he didn't like that nickname.


Somehow I doubt MJ would be offended by people calling him Jacko because sadly he's dead.
I think it's more about certain fans who get triggered and easily offended by anything that in there own minds is an insult to MJ. Why care what other people call him? In the end his music is still the same and people are allowed to call anyone whatever they want.

They used that term when Michael was alive, he said himself that he felt offended by the use of that term.

[Edited 8/15/17 16:21pm]

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Reply #416 posted 08/15/17 2:39pm

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Gave this a proper spin today (on We Can Fuck right now music). Some really cool stuff up here. All of it cool.

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Reply #417 posted 08/15/17 4:22pm

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I love Electirc Intercourse is beautiful.

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Reply #418 posted 08/15/17 9:42pm

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omnithanos said:

Time to rank and rate each track

1. Our Destiny / Roadhouse Garden 10/10
2. Computer Blue (“Hallway Speech” version) 10/10
3. Velvet Kitty Cat 9/10
4. Possessed 9/10
5. Katrina’s Paper Dolls 9/10
6. Love And Sex 8/10
7. Father’s Song 8/10
8. The Dance Electric 8/10
9. We Can Fuck 8/10
10. Electric Intercourse (Studio Version) 8/8
11. Wonderful Ass 8/10

I'd come to check this thread after a while away, and found myself in the midst of a conversartion about a nickname for Michael Jackson. I was honestly thrown for a moment when I saw your post, and had to check to see what the actual subject of the thread was, because I'd forgotten.

Unfortunately, I can't play because I haven't listened to the disc in probably at least 3 weeks, and I didn't listen that many times before that. I can just do a general breakdown into groups:

We Can Fuck, Computer Blue, Wonderful Ass are top tier, 10 pointers

Love and Sex, Katrina's Paper Dolls, The Dance Electric are probably 9s.

Possessed, Electric Intercourse, and Father's Song we'll say are 8s.

Those are all well in the range of very good Prince tracks

Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden I like, but the sticking them together poorly--knocks down to a 7. Both songs might be 8s, I'm just annoyed by the splice (Note: I said might be 8s. They also might be 7s by themselves. They're weaker than the solid 8s.

Velvet Kitty Cat is a 7. I don't dislike it, but it doesn't ever really interest me.

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Reply #419 posted 08/16/17 12:50am

JorisE73

214 said:

JorisE73 said:


Somehow I doubt MJ would be offended by people calling him Jacko because sadly he's dead.
I think it's more about certain fans who get triggered and easily offended by anything that in there own minds is an insult to MJ. Why care what other people call him? In the end his music is still the same and people are allowed to call anyone whatever they want.

They used that term when Michael was alive, he said himself that he felt offended by the use of that term.

[Edited 8/15/17 16:21pm]


I know, but like I said I don't think he would care NOW. But it seems the only people who care or are offended by it (not disrespect) are oversensitive fans who should have better things to worry about.

What Neversin said wasn't offensive and honestly everybody knows and identifies MJ with the word Jacko, were not talking about the N word here or something. If you don't like the word just ignor it.

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