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Reply #30 posted 06/11/17 4:22pm

rdhull

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ForceofNature said:

rdhull said:

ForceofNature said: That's a poor excuse of a fan and not a real one because one should already have all of his music already on cd and then downloaded etc Streaming after that but not as the only way or main way... should be having the music already regardless of Spotify etc [Edited 6/11/17 15:36pm]

Can't tell if you are being serious or not, but if you are serious - nice True Scottsman fallacy ya got there. A fan is a fan, I am not snobbish enough to tell people what they have to do in order to be a "real" fan lol that ain't how I roll

[Edited 6/11/17 15:59pm]

^^^streamer only alert

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Reply #31 posted 06/11/17 4:24pm

jaawwnn

rdhull said:

jaawwnn said:

I use Spotify a lot despite having his entire catalogue on mp3 (or similar) on my phone, not to mention cd and vinyl outside of that.

FFS me.

Ok that's different and what I explained. You're a true fan, I don't know about some of these other jokers though

Hey i'm not looking for your endorsement I'm just marvelling at my own stupidity.

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Reply #32 posted 06/11/17 4:35pm

rdhull

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jaawwnn said:

rdhull said:

jaawwnn said: Ok that's different and what I explained. You're a true fan, I don't know about some of these other jokers though

Hey i'm not looking for your endorsement I'm just marvelling at my own stupidity.

I didnt say you were.

Continue to marvel though.

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Reply #33 posted 06/11/17 4:36pm

rdhull

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ForceofNature said:

rdhull said:

ForceofNature said: That's a poor excuse of a fan and not a real one because one should already have all of his music already on cd and then downloaded etc Streaming after that but not as the only way or main way... should be having the music already regardless of Spotify etc [Edited 6/11/17 15:36pm]

A fan is a fan,

wrong

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Reply #34 posted 06/11/17 4:39pm

jaawwnn

rdhull said:



jaawwnn said:




rdhull said:


jaawwnn said: Ok that's different and what I explained. You're a true fan, I don't know about some of these other jokers though

Hey i'm not looking for your endorsement I'm just marvelling at my own stupidity.



I didnt say you were.


Continue to marvel though.


stoned
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Reply #35 posted 06/11/17 4:41pm

ForceofNature

rdhull said:



ForceofNature said:




rdhull said:


ForceofNature said: That's a poor excuse of a fan and not a real one because one should already have all of his music already on cd and then downloaded etc Streaming after that but not as the only way or main way... should be having the music already regardless of Spotify etc [Edited 6/11/17 15:36pm]

Can't tell if you are being serious or not, but if you are serious - nice True Scottsman fallacy ya got there. A fan is a fan, I am not snobbish enough to tell people what they have to do in order to be a "real" fan lol that ain't how I roll


[Edited 6/11/17 15:59pm]



^^^streamer only alert


Lol I have never streamed, dont need to cause I got my iTunes filled with all the P anyone could ever need. However the Prince fan community should be inclusive and open minded, not snobbish enough to devalue the value of a fan who may listen in a different way than someone else. No offense
[Edited 6/11/17 16:52pm]
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Reply #36 posted 06/11/17 4:53pm

rdhull

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ForceofNature said:

rdhull said:

^^^streamer only alert

Lol I have never streamed, dont need to cause I got my iTunes filled with all the P anyone could ever need. However anyone who uses the term "real fan" kinda just is exactly what is wrong with the org at times. Too much snobbery

True fan vs the others.

It is what it is and has always been this way. Youre new so it's understandable how you feel.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #37 posted 06/11/17 4:59pm

ForceofNature

rdhull said:



ForceofNature said:


rdhull said:


^^^streamer only alert



Lol I have never streamed, dont need to cause I got my iTunes filled with all the P anyone could ever need. However anyone who uses the term "real fan" kinda just is exactly what is wrong with the org at times. Too much snobbery

True fan vs the others.


It is what it is and has always been this way. Youre new so it's understandable how you feel.


Idk man you can justify it with "it is what it is", but that seems like a cop out. The truth is that anyone who loves P's music a true fan. You can say otherwise but like you said it is what it is.
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Reply #38 posted 06/11/17 5:19pm

Ugot2shakesumt
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rdhull said:



ForceofNature said:


rdhull said:


^^^streamer only alert



Lol I have never streamed, dont need to cause I got my iTunes filled with all the P anyone could ever need. However anyone who uses the term "real fan" kinda just is exactly what is wrong with the org at times. Too much snobbery

True fan vs the others.


It is what it is and has always been this way. Youre new so it's understandable how you feel.



People over 40. That's who mainly doesn't stream. Older people are scared of technology. Nothing to do with Prince, just ignorance.
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Reply #39 posted 06/11/17 5:30pm

rdhull

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

rdhull said:

True fan vs the others.

It is what it is and has always been this way. Youre new so it's understandable how you feel.

People over 40. That's who mainly doesn't stream. Older people are scared of technology. Nothing to do with Prince, just ignorance.

Any fan worth their salt will already have had the music before streaming was even a thing. It has nothing to do with the aged disliking streaming. Its about being a true fan. You're either a true fan, or you are not.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #40 posted 06/11/17 6:08pm

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Nah, just on my devices, mp3s, etc. I have Spotify 4 other artists n such, only if I'm desperate 4 a classic tune or sumpin smile.

For all time I am with you, you are with me.
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Reply #41 posted 06/11/17 6:10pm

ForceofNature

rdhull said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

rdhull said: People over 40. That's who mainly doesn't stream. Older people are scared of technology. Nothing to do with Prince, just ignorance.

Any fan worth their salt will already have had the music before streaming was even a thing. It has nothing to do with the aged disliking streaming. Its about being a true fan. You're either a true fan, or you are not.

"No true Scotsman is a kind of informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect a universal generalization from counterexamples by changing the definition in an ad hoc fashion to exclude the counterexample. Rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric"

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Reply #42 posted 06/11/17 6:11pm

Asenath0607

rdhull said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

rdhull said: People over 40. That's who mainly doesn't stream. Older people are scared of technology. Nothing to do with Prince, just ignorance.

Any fan worth their salt will already have had the music before streaming was even a thing. It has nothing to do with the aged disliking streaming. Its about being a true fan. You're either a true fan, or you are not.

You're really good at this, because I made a decision to ignore you; but I can't. So I'll take my chances because I am curious and would like an honest answer and not some "snappy comeback".

1) Are you serious or just clowning? If serious,

2) please define "true fan"

3) People on this site talk about maintaining Prince's legagcy; how do you think that is going to happen if younger people are not exposed to his music? Prince's older fan base will evenutally transition; and who will be left to discuss his music and advance his legagcy? The majority of millennials are NOT buying CDs or BUYING music. As people noted on this site, since his passing the price of some of his CDs are a bit pricey for someone who may be fresh out of high school or college.

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Reply #43 posted 06/11/17 6:13pm

Asenath0607

rdhull said:

ForceofNature said:

rdhull said: Lol I have never streamed, dont need to cause I got my iTunes filled with all the P anyone could ever need. However anyone who uses the term "real fan" kinda just is exactly what is wrong with the org at times. Too much snobbery

True fan vs the others.

It is what it is and has always been this way. Youre new so it's understandable how you feel.

Always....define always

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Reply #44 posted 06/11/17 6:54pm

rdhull

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ForceofNature said:

rdhull said:

Any fan worth their salt will already have had the music before streaming was even a thing. It has nothing to do with the aged disliking streaming. Its about being a true fan. You're either a true fan, or you are not.

"No true Scotsman is a kind of informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect a universal generalization from counterexamples by changing the definition in an ad hoc fashion to exclude the counterexample. Rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric"

"Make my funk the P-funk, I wants ta get funked up"

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #45 posted 06/11/17 7:03pm

rdhull

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Asenath0607 said:

rdhull said:

Any fan worth their salt will already have had the music before streaming was even a thing. It has nothing to do with the aged disliking streaming. Its about being a true fan. You're either a true fan, or you are not.

You're really good at this, because I made a decision to ignore you; but I can't. So I'll take my chances because I am curious and would like an honest answer and not some "snappy comeback".

1) Are you serious or just clowning? If serious,

2) please define "true fan"

3) People on this site talk about maintaining Prince's legagcy; how do you think that is going to happen if younger people are not exposed to his music? Prince's older fan base will evenutally transition; and who will be left to discuss his music and advance his legagcy? The majority of millennials are NOT buying CDs or BUYING music. As people noted on this site, since his passing the price of some of his CDs are a bit pricey for someone who may be fresh out of high school or college.

We dont need the younger people to take care of his legacy. We got it from here and have been doing just fine without the millenials and their ignorance of the purple history. And if I were you, I'd carry out your decision to try to ignore me. It doesn't get any better.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #46 posted 06/11/17 7:14pm

Ugot2shakesumt
hin

rdhull said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


rdhull said:


True fan vs the others.


It is what it is and has always been this way. Youre new so it's understandable how you feel.



People over 40. That's who mainly doesn't stream. Older people are scared of technology. Nothing to do with Prince, just ignorance.

Any fan worth their salt will already have had the music before streaming was even a thing. It has nothing to do with the aged disliking streaming. Its about being a true fan. You're either a true fan, or you are not.



That's some crazy ass shit lol
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Reply #47 posted 06/11/17 7:14pm

rdhull

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

rdhull said:

Any fan worth their salt will already have had the music before streaming was even a thing. It has nothing to do with the aged disliking streaming. Its about being a true fan. You're either a true fan, or you are not.

That's some crazy ass shit lol

welcome to rock n roll

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #48 posted 06/11/17 7:17pm

Ugot2shakesumt
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rdhull said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


rdhull said:


Any fan worth their salt will already have had the music before streaming was even a thing. It has nothing to do with the aged disliking streaming. Its about being a true fan. You're either a true fan, or you are not.



That's some crazy ass shit lol

welcome to rock n roll



How old are you?

I'm guessing either under 15 or over 65
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Reply #49 posted 06/11/17 7:27pm

rdhull

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Asenath0607 said:

rdhull said:

True fan vs the others.

It is what it is and has always been this way. Youre new so it's understandable how you feel.

Always....define always


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since 3-7-2003

http://prince.org/msg/7/39189

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[Edited 6/11/17 20:31pm]

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Reply #50 posted 06/11/17 8:59pm

Asenath0607

rdhull said:

Asenath0607 said:

You're really good at this, because I made a decision to ignore you; but I can't. So I'll take my chances because I am curious and would like an honest answer and not some "snappy comeback".

1) Are you serious or just clowning? If serious,

2) please define "true fan"

3) People on this site talk about maintaining Prince's legagcy; how do you think that is going to happen if younger people are not exposed to his music? Prince's older fan base will evenutally transition; and who will be left to discuss his music and advance his legagcy? The majority of millennials are NOT buying CDs or BUYING music. As people noted on this site, since his passing the price of some of his CDs are a bit pricey for someone who may be fresh out of high school or college.

We dont need the younger people to take care of his legacy. We got it from here and have been doing just fine without the millenials and their ignorance of the purple history. And if I were you, I'd carry out your decision to try to ignore me. It doesn't get any better.

Thanks. As usual we can agree to disagree. I think new, and younger fans/fam are needed; and appreciated. Like Prince, I think multi/inter generational blood is cool: “They are like my kids,” he said. “And I’m learning from them. Young people have the new ideas.” But I feel you on the ignorance part; I have a problem with people's ignorance of Prince before the "purple histroy" (not really,).

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Reply #51 posted 06/11/17 9:05pm

Asenath0607

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Are you streaming his music on TIDAL, Spotify or Apple Music?

Or just playing your old records?

Are you a vinyl/cd kind of listener?

lol

I stream via Spotify. I lost all my vinyl's (For You - Around the World in a Day is what I had) when I left them with a family member while I was enlisted. Still debating about joining Tidal.

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Reply #52 posted 06/11/17 9:55pm

ForceofNature

rdhull said:

Asenath0607 said:

You're really good at this, because I made a decision to ignore you; but I can't. So I'll take my chances because I am curious and would like an honest answer and not some "snappy comeback".

1) Are you serious or just clowning? If serious,

2) please define "true fan"

3) People on this site talk about maintaining Prince's legagcy; how do you think that is going to happen if younger people are not exposed to his music? Prince's older fan base will evenutally transition; and who will be left to discuss his music and advance his legagcy? The majority of millennials are NOT buying CDs or BUYING music. As people noted on this site, since his passing the price of some of his CDs are a bit pricey for someone who may be fresh out of high school or college.

We dont need the younger people to take care of his legacy. We got it from here and have been doing just fine without the millenials and their ignorance of the purple history. And if I were you, I'd carry out your decision to try to ignore me. It doesn't get any better.

A legacy is literally something that cannot exist without younger folk to keep it alive lol. I am not sure what you are going on about both with that or the "real fans don't stream" thing

[Edited 6/11/17 21:57pm]

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Reply #53 posted 06/11/17 10:19pm

Sydney

I signed up to Tidal just to stream Prince's entire (released) catalogue. Since then I have used the platform regulalry to stream new non Prince music and albums and enjoy it. I actually listened to "The Chocolate" invasion yesterday on Tidal which I had never listened to as an album configuartaion before so I am going to use stremaing to (re) discover Prince music I have never taken the time to listen to before.

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Reply #54 posted 06/11/17 10:20pm

laytonian

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sexton said:



laytonian said:


I own what I listen to. I'm not always in range of a cell tower. Out here in the wild west, you can drive half a day and not be able to stream.


It's the same with me--and I live in New York City! Try streaming when you're stuck in a subway tunnel. lol

So streaming is useless to me. My Prince music is all vinyl and CDs (or ripped digital files from the CDs).

[Edited 6/11/17 0:13am]



You know you can save music for offline listening, right?

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I do. My CDs are
On my iPod which I can easily plug into my cars and control from the steering wheel.
It's actually more convenient.
I also bought a turntable recently and have been converting vinyl to digital and CDs.
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[Edited 6/11/17 22:33pm]
Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #55 posted 06/11/17 10:30pm

laytonian

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

rdhull said:



ForceofNature said:


rdhull said:


^^^streamer only alert



Lol I have never streamed, dont need to cause I got my iTunes filled with all the P anyone could ever need. However anyone who uses the term "real fan" kinda just is exactly what is wrong with the org at times. Too much snobbery

True fan vs the others.


It is what it is and has always been this way. Youre new so it's understandable how you feel.



People over 40. That's who mainly doesn't stream. Older people are scared of technology. Nothing to do with Prince, just ignorance.

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Now them's fighting words.
Maybe those off us who've grown up with all the technology learned what's best in each circumstance??
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I was on the internet almost as soon as it was invented. Before there was "the web".
I herded Beanie Baby collectors on Prodigy in the 90s.
I can handle The Org.
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And doesn't downloading from a streaming service ends up with the same as loading it onto my phone or iPod anyway?
Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #56 posted 06/12/17 5:16am

theblueangel

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RudeDog, you're cracking me the fuck up.
No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

Need more sleep than coke or methamphetamine.
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Reply #57 posted 06/12/17 6:01am

NouveauDance

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I've no need to, but I'm not 'anti-streaming' - I just personally have no use for it. If streaming is the way the general music listening audience is getting their music, then I'm glad Prince's stuff is on there to be heard.

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Reply #58 posted 06/12/17 7:14am

nosajd

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I have Tidal & Apple music for various reasons. I also own everything on cd/vinyl & digital as well.

Streaming makes it easier for me to listen to what I want anywhere I want. I own everything because I want to. I am also I collector of music in general.

Calling someone 'not a fan' on a fansite is rather pointless, but hey, to each their own.

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Reply #59 posted 06/12/17 1:56pm

RJOrion

rdhull said:

What kind of fan streams Prince?




the kind of fan that listens to music at work and in tbeir vehicles, via bluetooth...cant take the turntables and home entertainment systems everywhere...
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